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eqfan592

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22. Well yes and no.

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:52 PM

Nov 2012

Because it will FORCE Boehner and house republicans to both speak out and vote against bills that otherwise would never have made it there (like the vet jobs bill). Basically, they've gotten away with quietly torpedoing a lot of otherwise popular legislation, and this should put a stop to that.

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Filibuster Reform Now Official – Reid Presents New Filibuster Rule [View all] Segami Nov 2012 OP

Good Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #1

Good...will it pass? haikugal Nov 2012 #2

That's an important question struggle4progress Nov 2012 #3

I believe it only takes a simple majority for it to pass... Spazito Nov 2012 #4

But which way will Sen Lieberman vote? Oh yeah, he is gonzo. Yea! nm rhett o rick Nov 2012 #6

Yep, he's gone and there are more Democrats in the Senate come January... Spazito Nov 2012 #8

And importantly, more progressive Democrats. nm rhett o rick Nov 2012 #31

I assumed Reid would bring this to a vote after Jan 1 when INdemo Nov 2012 #33

I also think that is the case. nm rhett o rick Nov 2012 #40

Yes, the article says he'll do this in January... Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #68

But if debate occurs will simple majority pass it bjobotts Nov 2012 #76

51 Votes Take It... KharmaTrain Nov 2012 #5

" The filibuster could be changed by majority vote, but only on the 1st day of the session" Segami Nov 2012 #10

"Under current Senate rules, a rule change itself could be coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #24

The debate will hinge on the "Constitutional Option" first argued by ... Spazito Nov 2012 #38

Thanks. Bookmarking for later study - n/t coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #39

marking this for a read theKed Nov 2012 #59

HOW TO END THE FILIBUSTER FOREVER Zorra Nov 2012 #60

We don't want to end it. We want to make it extraordinary. aquart Nov 2012 #78

Here is a current article with some details ... Tx4obama Nov 2012 #80

Watch this 2naSalit Nov 2012 #41

Whip lobodons Nov 2012 #19

If not, it will be the corporatist Third Way GOP allies who prevent it from passing. nt Zorra Nov 2012 #34

Looks Pretty Good, Sir The Magistrate Nov 2012 #7

So even Harry Reid doesn't like being lied to. I have to tip my hat to him for running the Senate byeya Nov 2012 #9

The hag from texas won't be there this time. julian09 Nov 2012 #58

Just know.... AZ Mike Nov 2012 #11

Well, Orange John already *looks* like an ant under a magnifying glass on a sunny day Fumesucker Nov 2012 #20

Well yes and no. eqfan592 Nov 2012 #22

I don't see how it can force boner to do anything. littlewolf Nov 2012 #56

There are things The Senate votes on that The House doesn't: Supreme Court Justices... Tx4obama Nov 2012 #71

I concede your point that "it turns The Speaker into a one-man cloture", Volaris Nov 2012 #84

This is a blog. I see NOTHING in the MSM on Reid actually doing anything (yet). ReallyIAmAnOptimist Nov 2012 #12

Here is Senator Reid's own words on it... Spazito Nov 2012 #16

But nowhere else does it say CitizenPatriot Nov 2012 #21

There will be reform, that is what Senator Reid has stated... Spazito Nov 2012 #27

Again, absolutely nothing specific. former9thward Nov 2012 #44

Ahhh, so saying there will be reform and showcasing the Udall measure.... Spazito Nov 2012 #45

I doubt you do.... former9thward Nov 2012 #47

It is the Merkley package that is being considered. See article link below Tx4obama Nov 2012 #72

Here is a link to the 'newest' news about The Senate filibuster reform Tx4obama Nov 2012 #82

Here is a link with the newest news ... Tx4obama Nov 2012 #81

The newest news is on the link below Tx4obama Nov 2012 #73

Good! This does not end the fillibuster hootinholler Nov 2012 #13

Rec! krispos42 Nov 2012 #14

Sounds great !! kentuck Nov 2012 #15

Just think how different things would have been if Harry'd done this in 2009. smokey nj Nov 2012 #17

Republicans do it since they now just file a paper and don't stand speaking for hours upi402 Nov 2012 #18

Too half-assed. Simple majority vote should be what passes. Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #23

I agree. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #61

And here, from my corner, I am bringing out the pom poms nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #25

We will still have grid lock, mick063 Nov 2012 #26

Did Harry Reid actually say this today or yesterday? graham4anything Nov 2012 #28

The 'newest' info is on the link below Tx4obama Nov 2012 #77

Solidarity with all who FIGHT Congress! patrice Nov 2012 #29

K & R Change has come Nov 2012 #30

So, on Dec 10, 2010, Sen Sanders filibustered the tax-cut extension deal for 8 hrs, 34 minutes. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #32

Yeah, me too. I'll believe it when I see it. barnabas63 Nov 2012 #36

Exellent. Make them stand there and defend their actions. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #35

This is a Better Development Than Invoking the Nuclear Option On the Road Nov 2012 #37

I'll believe it when I see it. Gregorian Nov 2012 #42

I hope it passes, but I wouldn't put money on it. It's the U.S. Congress, after all. nt valerief Nov 2012 #43

So, how are they going to change the rule??...with 60 votes? or a simple majority? Hulk Nov 2012 #46

How is this 'official'? Are you saying that Reid has endorsed this approach? grantcart Nov 2012 #48

It is the Merkley package that is being considered. See article link below Tx4obama Nov 2012 #74

thanks grantcart Nov 2012 #83

There are no real filibusters, just threats The Wizard Nov 2012 #49

great graphic Coyotl Nov 2012 #50

K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #51

It's an excellent start, but I'd like to see the filibuster killed entirely. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #52

"Handshake deal"! With a senator!? rock Nov 2012 #53

As I Recall DallasNE Nov 2012 #54

Very Good! UCmeNdc Nov 2012 #55

There is nothing new here in this blog post, just a rehash of comments/proposals made recently. PoliticAverse Nov 2012 #57

Did you miss the 3rd from last paragraph in the OP? Sounds like a plan to me-- ProgressiveEconomist Nov 2012 #64

Senators have NOT been talking about what is in the OP. See the Merkley package on link below Tx4obama Nov 2012 #75

seems good to me! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #62

BRILLIANT! Reid's proposed rule would virtually eliminate one of TWO filibusters to which every ProgressiveEconomist Nov 2012 #63

BROVO libodem Nov 2012 #65

Some Dems have said "don't do this" . . . MrModerate Nov 2012 #66

Seeing is believing. GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #67

Senator Reid has NOT yet released details of the new filibuster reform rule Tx4obama Nov 2012 #69

The 2nd link in the OP and The Addicting Info link end up at yesterday's HuffPo article below link Tx4obama Nov 2012 #70

Probably the best thing to happen to regain a "functioning" government. southerncrone Nov 2012 #79

One can only hope. aandegoons Nov 2012 #85