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Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:07 AM

33. Even the Chief Israeli negotiator and Israeli Foreign Minister Shlomo ben-Ami said that he would hav

rejected the Camp David 2000 offer if he had been a Palestinian leader. To to have accepted the Camp Dave 2000 offer would have turned the Palestinians Territories into a non-viable state - disconnected into multiple cantons. The Taba conference of January 2001 did offer some hope - but the Israelis - not the Palestinians walked out. Although to be fair, they were on the eve of Israeli elections which everyone foresaw a win by Sharon who absolutely vowed that he would not accept any agreement with the Palestinians. This was all very unfortunately because all sides did state and the European Unions records does support the claim - that they were actually getting close to an agreement. But it was certainly not the Palestinians who walked away. You can read this document which was published later in Haaretz : http://prrn.mcgill.ca/prrn/papers/moratinos.html

The Israeli redeployment from the Gaza only made the Gaza non-viable as an entity completely cut off from the world - everyone knows. There is not a single credible human rights organization in the world involved in this issue who would say otherwise. At the same time they were withdrawing from the Gaza they were continuing relentless expansion in the West Bank and East Jerusalem.

It is a bit disingenuous of the Israelis to claim that they have made any concessions when - they have done nothing but relentless expansion at all points. Here is a table recording Israeli settlement expansion from 1972 to 2011.

http://www.fmep.org/settlement_info/settlement-info-and-tables/stats-data/comprehensive-settlement-population-1972-2006

Damn, I vowed that I would not talk about the Israeli/Palestinian conflict anymore - because there is no hope for peace as long as one side has such overwhelming power and the other side is pretty much powerless - until demographics changes that equations- which eventually it probably will - there will not be a settlement.

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