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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Reply #22)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:32 AM
Honeycombe8 (18,738 posts)
29. Arafat himself this was a desirable accord. Then he later walked away. He was given a chance
in the interview I saw to explain. Instead, he sat there silent, refusing to comment on why he walked away.
I can only guess that many of the rank and file Palestinians didn't like it.
Both sides are in the wrong. Both sides have to let go of the past. Israel has to give up this "this land is my land" mindset, because God gave it to them centuries ago. And Palestine has to give up the "this land is my land" mindset because they had lived on it for centuries, even tho they hadn't bothered to create a government and really claim it.
They both have to take some hurt, and go forward, if they want to live in peace.
Most recently, Israel, at the request of the U.S. and others, gave Gaza to the Palestinians. Many Israelis didn't want to do that, for fear the Palestinians would use it as a launching pad for rockets into Israeli neighborhoods. But the Israeli leaders did it, anyway. And sure enough, their worst fears were realized. The Palestinians did indeed use Gaza as a launching pad for rockets into Israeli neighborhoods.
So I can see why Israel takes a hard line. And I can see why the Palestinians take a hard line. But both sides taking a hard line doesn't lead to a resolution or peace, or a place for children to grow up without having hteir arms and legs blown off. The children learn to live in violence, and grow up accustomed to it.
The borders won't go back to 1947, which is what the Palestinians want. Not gonna happen. And Palestinians refuse to allow that Israel has a right to exist as a state.
Israel took land that wasn't theirs, in 1947. It was in fact given to them by others who had no right to give it. Nonetheless, that was a wrong that was done to the Palestinians. But that can't be corrected now, any more than we can "give back" land taken from the Native Americans here. Not gonna happen. No good way to do it, anyway.
It's a mess. Some believe it is God's will that the arabs and jews hate each other and kill each other. That may be at the heart of why they won't live in peace with each other. Also, extremists are useless for a prosperous and safe future. Both sides have too many of those, IMO.
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