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49. Automatic weapons
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:35 AM
Nov 2012

have been effectively banned for almost 50 years (or longer). They cannot make any new ones, and the few that exist cost 10,000+. Finally, anyone who buys one must get a firearms license from the ATF which includes a full background check on the level of background checks for security clearance.

The problem was the "assault weapons ban" which bans weapons that look like automatic weapons and/or have things like bayonets. These guns are no different though in function than a hunting rifle -- and that's why a lot of rural whites especially see it as a major 2nd amendment issue.

Pinch their cheeks and tell them they're the BEST widdle boys in the whole world! WinkyDink Nov 2012 #1
quit making remarks like that, would be my suggestion for how to win male voters. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #17
Look. The white male vote was all about guns, race, and taxes. Now what do YOU propose is a WinkyDink Nov 2012 #65
I don't even want to talk to you. If you can't see how bigoted & stereotyped that statement is, HiPointDem Nov 2012 #66
What, pray, do you think Ryan's "urban" crack meant? WinkyDink Nov 2012 #72
i know exactly what it meant. what does that have to do with your own bigoted remarks? HiPointDem Nov 2012 #73
OMG,. Whom do you he was directing that to? BTW: You are referring to "white males" as a bloc. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #74
i understand. and again i ask, what does that have to do with your own stereotyping? HiPointDem Nov 2012 #76
I think you touched a nerve! 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #84
No, it's about, "I would have hired you, but I have to hire a minority." ieoeja Nov 2012 #81
Might I suggest ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #85
First off, they're [i.e. we're] not all Limbaugh listeners. Bake Nov 2012 #90
We have the women. The men will follow eventually. Kalidurga Nov 2012 #2
Only when those people realize they are not served by the GOP will they change. liberal N proud Nov 2012 #3
You're right loyalsister Nov 2012 #7
True, the fact is that this demographic tends to be where you find huge amounts of racists JaneyVee Nov 2012 #50
By nominating only straight white men for office. nt DonViejo Nov 2012 #4
Unfortunately, you are correct. russspeakeasy Nov 2012 #13
no, he's not. but maybe the party (or its acolytes) could stop with the stereotyping and deni- HiPointDem Nov 2012 #18
Tell them that they are the most patriotic people on the planet. JoePhilly Nov 2012 #5
Hillary 2016. RandySF Nov 2012 #6
I definitely agree with this. LakeErieLiberal Nov 2012 #12
That's true but relative. Chan790 Nov 2012 #20
Hillary Clinton is NOT more liberal than Obama. Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2012 #39
...because she is not black. Let's face it: they supported her because she's not black. Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2012 #38
Shhh ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #86
+1000 CakeGrrl Nov 2012 #93
Oh brother. DURHAM D Nov 2012 #8
I understand what you mean LakeErieLiberal Nov 2012 #14
I have no plans to approach them. DURHAM D Nov 2012 #24
I agree with you. I have dealt with those people, they won't change. nt bluestate10 Nov 2012 #42
Get rid of those darn minorities that have infiltrated our country? Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #9
"More free stuff!" aletier_v Nov 2012 #10
Only when we find billh58 Nov 2012 #11
I dunno LakeErieLiberal Nov 2012 #15
How can a billh58 Nov 2012 #34
Every time the Rape-publi-scum start in with one of their divisive social coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #16
I agree. It's about the 1%. Trickle down doesn't work LeftInTX Nov 2012 #25
+1 HiPointDem Nov 2012 #60
Honest answer? k2qb3 Nov 2012 #19
Welcome to DU. I have spent some time thinking about an automatic weapons ban bluestate10 Nov 2012 #30
Automatic weapons Sgent Nov 2012 #49
Political capital. k2qb3 Nov 2012 #52
Agree, but think it is even broader Spike89 Nov 2012 #87
the reason for the disaffection is clear in this thread. the party doesn't want their votes, and HiPointDem Nov 2012 #21
You seem kind of odd, yourself, even being on DU with your disdain for the Democratic Party. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #67
lol. right out of the playbook. yeah, it's all about *me*, how defective i am HiPointDem Nov 2012 #69
Actually, yeah billh58 Nov 2012 #88
White men, generally speaking, are scared shitless of not being the top dogs anymore Stinky The Clown Nov 2012 #22
There was a day when a person that had just a HS education could build a prosperous bluestate10 Nov 2012 #26
A good percentage of those people aren't racists. bluestate10 Nov 2012 #23
We first we need to stop speading the myth they don't vote for us SpartanDem Nov 2012 #27
I agree... LakeErieLiberal Nov 2012 #29
free mullet trims from cost cutters and a voucher for 50 free rounds of ammo nt hockeynut57 Nov 2012 #28
It's really only Southern white men. Everywhere else white men are almost 50/50. reformist2 Nov 2012 #31
No, it's mostly RURAL white men, across the board. Withywindle Nov 2012 #58
We're talking primarily rural and small town voters.... Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2012 #32
Everyone I know who votes dog_lovin_dem Nov 2012 #33
This is a good point... LakeErieLiberal Nov 2012 #41
The white vote in every election since 1972 ProSense Nov 2012 #35
By convincing White America that the Democratic Party is NOT about taking something that they Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2012 #36
I agree with this...but what might some strategies be?? LakeErieLiberal Nov 2012 #43
Drop condescension. Read "Born to Fight" by Jim Webb. Hekate Nov 2012 #37
Good book, I agree! Withywindle Nov 2012 #57
+1 HiPointDem Nov 2012 #61
Perhaps the real answer is to stop obsessing about that voting block..... marmar Nov 2012 #40
I don't think it's "obsessing" LakeErieLiberal Nov 2012 #44
So what is it you suggest to change, that white men now don't care for? Do they hate choice for WinkyDink Nov 2012 #70
I agree with you. Going after working class White males doesn't have much upside. bluestate10 Nov 2012 #47
By doing what they said they were going to do to get elected, and letting them know it. pepperbear Nov 2012 #45
single-payer healthcare, and treat capital gains as ordinary income. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #46
They could run a real progressive who means what he or she says and follows through, Raksha Nov 2012 #48
So whites will only vote for a 'real' progressive while minorities and women will vote for a 'fake' pampango Nov 2012 #63
When did I say that or even suggest it? Raksha Nov 2012 #64
Obama won large majorities of the minority and women vote without being a 'real' progressive? pampango Nov 2012 #80
I bet consistently standing for things would go a long way. TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #51
Many of them have been brainwashed by Fox Noise. xfundy Nov 2012 #53
Since FOX isn't about to change (& you don't hear ROMNEY re-assessing, do you?), then, ipso facto, WinkyDink Nov 2012 #71
Give them something that they can't ignore and that will benefit them and/or people they know Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2012 #54
Education, including critical thinking skills? nt Live and Learn Nov 2012 #55
Make a pitch for them, ask for their vote. Voters often know when they aren't needed or wanted. nt Raine Nov 2012 #56
Region type is EVERYTHING. Withywindle Nov 2012 #59
Obama needs to continue to do what he did in Ohio liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #62
wake up, they just elected the President to a second term...but you knew that i suspect. spanone Nov 2012 #68
How about a whole lot less... 99Forever Nov 2012 #75
Pursue economic policies that are in the best interests of the middle and lower class Scootaloo Nov 2012 #77
well MrDiaz Nov 2012 #78
Run someone who's white and vaguely homophobic/misogynistic. nt geek tragedy Nov 2012 #79
It is not rocket science to figure out this 'white males' problem is in part regional. Bluenorthwest Nov 2012 #82
I will try to characterize for you my office mates exboyfil Nov 2012 #83
fREE BEER AND AMMO DainBramaged Nov 2012 #89
In the end the only thing you can do is stand on your principles and do a good job at explaining our hrmjustin Nov 2012 #91
By doing things that will, you know, help them. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #92
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