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In reply to the discussion: I am so PISSED! [View all]

NashvilleLefty

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6. For several reasons
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:17 PM
Nov 2012

1. Our benefits are going WAY down (not just a little, but a lot)
2. Our costs are going up
3. Most of us accepted lower pay because of the previous benefits, which we are now denied.
4. We used to have low turnover and long-time experience, which is about to be lost.
5. The new-hires will be of a lower quality, because we are now less competitive in the hiring market.

I honestly don't know if UHC was the lowest bidder - according to the paperwork I have seen they were not. Although I'm sure that BCBS rates probably did go up because rates are going up everywhere, I cannot imagine that negotiated rates would be lower with UHC than BCBS. Especially since our division has been extremely pro-active on decreasing medical costs and even added a Wellness Center in order to lower our medical insurance costs. We even had a visit from our former (Democratic, btw) Governor to tour our facilities several years ago. Of course, we now have a Republican Governor who is part owner in Pilot Oil.

Sis, thanks for asking this question - it helps me think about how best to present my arguments.

And that's part of the reason I left waiting tables for a "corporate job", because of their benefits, even though I was taking a cut in pay.

Thank god and/or goddess for Obamacare! EVERYONE needs Health Insurance, whether they think they do or not. I'd rather see Medicare for all, but even the Public Option couldn't pass. So, I'll take what we can get!

I am so PISSED! [View all] NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 OP
Why? babylonsister Nov 2012 #1
For several reasons NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #6
Thanks for this response: I don't know how you babylonsister Nov 2012 #15
The fallacy of the argument that "lots of us don't" which implies erinlough Nov 2012 #20
Thank you! Wind Dancer Nov 2012 #24
Sounds like employer is increasing their profits at empoyees' expense. Hoyt Nov 2012 #2
Babalonsister... KelleyD Nov 2012 #3
We voluntarily switched from Blue Cross to United Jane Austin Nov 2012 #4
That would be nice. We are not. NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #7
It all depends on what plan your employer... ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #5
we are talking UHC vs BCBS NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #8
UHC gives me the squicks. madamesilverspurs Nov 2012 #9
In Texas Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #10
Actually, United Health Care is one of the highest rated health ins. cos. Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #11
the best I ever had was Harris Methodist HMO Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #12
CIGNA SUCKS. I've had it twice, at 2 different employers. It sucked both times. nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #19
UHC sucks WORSE than Cigna n/t NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #21
Sorry, but Nope! It's #8 of the WORST NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #13
No. I got the numbers from the complaints registered by the NAIC. See my below post on that. Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #18
Ah, but that's a question I have NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #25
The refund would go to whoever paid for the policy, of course. Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #29
We were on UHC for about 10 years and thru 2 pregnancies. FSogol Nov 2012 #14
I'm betting that you were on UHC HMO NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #22
My employer pays all of my premiums HipChick Nov 2012 #16
Complaint ratios for BCBS and United Healthcare Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #17
I'm not in TX. NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #23
You can look up the complaint index for ANY state. The ACA has changed everything you know. Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #27
Ask HR, what kind of kickback they received.......... mrmpa Nov 2012 #26
United Health Care is not rated at the bottom. The list provided is from LAWYERS.... Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #28
this may not soothe you, brokechris Nov 2012 #30
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