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In reply to the discussion: Workers have been paying higher social security taxes than necessary for 30 years. In 1983, [View all]dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)31. Of course the gov't spent it all.
which is one reason they are doing all this dancing around the issue of SS being "broke".
Look, on PAPER, the fund is fine.
On PAPER, the budget is ok.
On PAPER, the banks are solvent.
But in reality..........
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HiPointDem
Nov 2012
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There is zero reason for SS to even be mentioned in these discussions about Government Debt.
sabrina 1
Nov 2012
#2
"infuriating there is no clear statement from the Dem leadership putting this Republican lie to rest
RepublicansRZombies
Nov 2012
#22
That has nothing to do with SS creating any deficit. That fund belongs to the people who paid
sabrina 1
Nov 2012
#41
Thanks for the explanation. Isn't it also true that if the credit rating of the US
Flatulo
Nov 2012
#52
That's what I was thinking. Since the Trust is filled with IOUs, benefits are being
Flatulo
Nov 2012
#33
Yes they have, which puts the American People in the same category as China and Japan
sabrina 1
Nov 2012
#44
Well, the US Govt has other creditors, China eg. And I believe now, Japan. The SS fund they
sabrina 1
Nov 2012
#42
yup, and now they want to claim that we cant spend the surplus we have plowed into
Warren Stupidity
Nov 2012
#4
Is there actually money in that trust fund? ... or did the government borrow it all,
meti57b
Nov 2012
#18
If US TBills ever become worthless, our troubles will be MUCH bigger than an SS debate
SomeGuyInEagan
Nov 2012
#67
I think it is obvious that the people need to launch their own campaign to counter this
sabrina 1
Nov 2012
#8
If Tammy Baldwin is the only one to openly defend SS at this point: Baldwin for President, 2016
AnotherMcIntosh
Nov 2012
#35
Thx. If the Reps are using this so that their "friends" can benefit, I wonder who their friends are.
AnotherMcIntosh
Nov 2012
#62
Their "friends" are the people who finance their campaigns who expect favors in return
Samantha
Nov 2012
#72
Well, maybe take a lesson from how the Republicans spread around their propaganda. They
sabrina 1
Nov 2012
#43
One of the MANY arguments, (ok heated discussions) I had with my Repub father back in the day,,
benld74
Nov 2012
#9
yep. the committee was bipartisan and the congresspeople who approved the final bill were
HiPointDem
Nov 2012
#48
That $3 trillion in bonds the SS trust fund? That's a $3 trillion claim on rich Americans' money.
reformist2
Nov 2012
#20
Yes, but right wingers want it in the stock market where they can steal it. nt
Live and Learn
Nov 2012
#60