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BlueStreak

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34. Are we supposed to believe ...
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:50 AM
Nov 2012

That they could not sense any brain activity at all -- hence the PVS diagnosis, yet the guy certainly blinked his eyes and seemed to have facial expressions?

Are we to believe that they couldn't measure any mental activity at the point that he was being given instructions -- instructions that would require significant mental processing. Yet then minutes later they could detect mental activity that they interpreted as "I'm thinking about playing tennis"?

It seems to me it would take more mental activity to process the instructions than it would take to imagine a game of tennis.

And how do they know he wasn't trying NOT to imagine tennis at that point? The instructions were "If you feel no pain, then imagine you are playing tennis." Well, if I understood that and I was in severe pain, I would be trying really hard not to imagine a game of tennis.

Try that right now. Don't think about playing a game of tennis. Don't think about a great backstroke. Don't think about the smell of the fresh air. Don't think about the sound of the racquet hitting the ball. Don't think about planting your feet on the baseline. Don't think about serving an ace.

How did that go for you?

wow. limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #1
Captain Pike? ThoughtCriminal Nov 2012 #2
BEEP... ...BEEP slackmaster Nov 2012 #36
This is not what I expected of a "persistent vegetative state" BlueStreak Nov 2012 #3
Sounds like cold fussion. UnrepentantLiberal Nov 2012 #5
This Is Going To Need a Lot Of Checking And Confirmation, Ma'am The Magistrate Nov 2012 #4
Yes it will. UnrepentantLiberal Nov 2012 #6
"Persistent vegetative state" is a grey area -- brain death is not n/t markpkessinger Nov 2012 #7
Here are the original sources: JimDandy Nov 2012 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #8
Imagining tennis his visual and motor cortices lit up Care Acutely Nov 2012 #15
what a horrible thought... BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #9
This story freaks me out flamingdem Nov 2012 #11
Can one even begin to imagine... BouzoukiKing Nov 2012 #10
Exactly. Perhaps this person lives in a kind of haze flamingdem Nov 2012 #12
The most terrible not-real story... BouzoukiKing Nov 2012 #14
"Johnny Got his Gun" haunts me babydollhead Nov 2012 #32
Maybe more in line with a never-ending dream than anything else davidn3600 Nov 2012 #21
Since he's comatose, it's probably Dash87 Nov 2012 #39
If he said "I'm in pain" would they tell us? n/t TexasBushwhacker Nov 2012 #13
Few seances find the loved one to have ended up in Hell cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #16
did you watch the BBC piece? Care Acutely Nov 2012 #22
Now caring for my mother who has suffered a stroke Whovian Nov 2012 #17
I think there is an "us" that lives beyond the physical flamingdem Nov 2012 #19
I came across this the other day, I think on DU: yonder Nov 2012 #23
oh gosh... that must be so tough on both of you renate Nov 2012 #25
Bless you hollysmom Nov 2012 #30
Whovian Skittles Nov 2012 #31
i would rather be dead if this was true JI7 Nov 2012 #18
Many would, and I believe that choice should be available Care Acutely Nov 2012 #24
I saw a Panorama programme about that on British TV last night LeftishBrit Nov 2012 #26
A neurologist's view. longship Nov 2012 #27
I read the study, then read your link cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #28
Are we supposed to believe ... BlueStreak Nov 2012 #34
I don't think that's what they're saying. longship Nov 2012 #37
My sister was in a coma DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #29
Can we use this to detect brain activity Shankapotomus Nov 2012 #33
It would be a long shot! n/t Still Sensible Nov 2012 #35
Waiting for the Terry Schiavo fans to chime in next MiniMe Nov 2012 #38
me too. This is a troublesome miracle for some purposes. librechik Nov 2012 #40
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