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Response to joshcryer (Reply #74)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:09 AM

78. Oh, Josh, just stop it.

Don't play these accusatory games. I am so weary of seeing this type of crap here, and you should be ashamed to be shoveling it.

Really, how dare you accuse me of "the opposite." You know my posting history, so you know that I constantly exhort people to write and call and even go to Washington; good grief, I made a bunch of posts like that just today. And you saw the thread from two days ago, in which I spoke of the tremendous power and opportunity we possess after this landslide, if we keep the pressure on our representatives to work for us.

I am sick and tired of being sold out. We have a gravely serious, systemic problem of corporate money driving policy in Washington, and, yes, Democrats are complicit. Let me repeat that: Republicans are worse, but Democrats are absolutely complicit. At a certain point we need to be honest about what the problem really is, or we will never solve it.

I absolutely do think there is reluctance on the part of the President and many Democrats in Congress to have a very strong, "untinkerable" progressive majority, for all the reasons that Greenwald outlines and more. I think Democrats need to be clear-eyed about the problem, and that a large part of the reason we are not seeing the level of outcry we desperately need in order to force real change is that people are constantly fed the fantasy that it ISN'T a problem.

The repeated, serious betrayals we have experienced - on austerity/tax cuts for the rich, on political appointments, on the public option, on the police/surveillance state and civil rights - are not a series of flukes, nor are they symptoms of some sort of pathological timidity that has infected only the Democratic side of Washington, and only when they need to push against Bush-style corporate economic, war, or police state policies. No, we have a SYSTEMIC problem of billions of dollars in corporate money flooding our government and making our representatives, including our President, reluctant to represent us on these issues. We need to recognize that serious, serious problem, and we need to deal with it.

Josh, Republicans have been working predictably on behalf of corporate America for a very long time. For decades the Democratic Party was the ONLY thing standing between Americans and vicious, predatory corporate policies. We are seeing frightening changes in our country now, precisely because the infiltration of corporate money into our party is pressuring too many Democrats to abdicate that role. I care desperately about the health of our party, because our country NEEDS our party, and I'm going to keep posting about it as honestly as I can, so that we can FIX it.

That you would accuse me of trying to stifle action is beyond outrageous. The vast majority of my posts on these boards do nothing but CRY OUT for action, and I and others who call for this action are continually lectured by the usual group that we should sit down, shut up, and just be patient.

I am finished with this subthread, Josh. I'm tired, and I really am not interested in hearing why I am wrong and why I am really an evil Republican in disguise.

You have a good night.



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