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you cant buy groceries or pay the rent or doctor with "test points" nt msongs Nov 2012 #1
Was gonna say, "test points" don't feed closeupready Nov 2012 #134
Lets say however, you did give that 10 points to the other students.... Flabbergasted Nov 2012 #2
Excellent! Stuckinthebush Nov 2012 #3
Thought that's what you were aiming for. :) Flabbergasted Nov 2012 #10
How would giving 10 points to other kids improve scores in the long run? AlexSatan Nov 2012 #100
You're wrong. School is about test scores. Learning is incidental. Occulus Nov 2012 #129
Maybe in your classroom, AlexSatan Nov 2012 #140
It's a faulty analogy... Flabbergasted Nov 2012 #137
You said nothing of the sort. GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #138
Meaning progressive taxation doesn't work in this way Flabbergasted Nov 2012 #151
That's perfect. n/t Mira Nov 2012 #142
Is he a public school teacher? MotherPetrie Nov 2012 #4
ba-zing! Care Acutely Nov 2012 #44
Exactly. In his case he got zero on the test and depends on the largesse of others. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #106
Not everyone is the same. And who is to say that the 72 point person can't help the 110 person in sammytko Nov 2012 #5
Who cares why? Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #143
The teacher here seems to misunderstand what grades are. surrealAmerican Nov 2012 #6
That makes sense..... Michigan Alum Nov 2012 #45
Ask them how they would feel if no matter how hard they worked... sadbear Nov 2012 #7
I was working on something along these lines Stuckinthebush Nov 2012 #9
Legacies get a "Gentlemen's 'C'" from one of the Ivies, and an MBA. Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #115
Taxes are paid for the luxury of living in a society Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #8
Ha! Stuckinthebush Nov 2012 #13
If I made a 110, I could give away 20 points Ilsa Nov 2012 #11
Weak argument, particularly from a public employee. Barack_America Nov 2012 #12
That's the maddening part Stuckinthebush Nov 2012 #15
I think the answer is easy Fence rider Nov 2012 #14
Spot on Stuckinthebush Nov 2012 #17
It's A Flawed Analogy ChoppinBroccoli Nov 2012 #16
Damn good Stuckinthebush Nov 2012 #19
i think a better analogy is asking if grandma qazplm Nov 2012 #34
Worse than that, it's a massively fucking stupid analogy. Hissyspit Nov 2012 #56
So, you were graded 110 on that test... DreamGypsy Nov 2012 #18
Have two students start with 100% dalaigh lllama Nov 2012 #20
Try The Little Red Hen jody Nov 2012 #21
some cool answers on this thread. flying rabbit Nov 2012 #22
Indeed! Stuckinthebush Nov 2012 #23
Because.... AZ Mike Nov 2012 #24
That's the crux of the issue Stuckinthebush Nov 2012 #36
+1. also, test scores aren't analogous to income. income is analogous to 'life', because in a HiPointDem Nov 2012 #48
Are you saying all kids AlexSatan Nov 2012 #101
No. AZ Mike Nov 2012 #109
OK AlexSatan Nov 2012 #110
maybe something about Do you Not Feed your Kid if they don't do well JI7 Nov 2012 #25
I know, we can ask the Czar of all the Russa's what he thinks. N/T Throckmorton Nov 2012 #66
Your answer may not be the most eloquently worded on this thread but, imo, it coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #69
. A math teacher is being this political? AND stupid? I'd let his Administrators know. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #26
Tell them there is no such thing as 110%. If there was, something would be out of whack. nt bluestate10 Nov 2012 #27
I was going to say this, too, but he said "points," not "per cent." :-) WinkyDink Nov 2012 #38
It's apples and oranges. drm604 Nov 2012 #28
true. Best answer here, IMHO....they have NOTHING to do with each other Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #53
Democrats want grantcart Nov 2012 #29
The obvious retort ... Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #145
Really? Are you kidding? That is the kind of RW strawman that we should laugh out the door. grantcart Nov 2012 #148
Whoa there highspeed... Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #150
Why the fuck is a teacher even discussing this with a student? proud2BlibKansan Nov 2012 #30
Send him to the English Deparment and introduce him to Charles Dicken's works. libdem4life Nov 2012 #31
I once held this hope. Then I retired. :-) WinkyDink Nov 2012 #39
Well, if you're talking about teaching, I salute you. 5 years did me in. libdem4life Nov 2012 #42
It isn't about handing out bonuses. LiberalAndProud Nov 2012 #32
I have a Ph.D. in English, and I know about that 10% garthranzz Nov 2012 #33
He might have given a test with 150 points as the top. The S.A.T. isn't on the 100-point scale. :-) WinkyDink Nov 2012 #40
Not true AlexSatan Nov 2012 #103
boomerang! garthranzz Nov 2012 #154
The analogy assumes the rules of the economy are as simple and clearcut as the rules of a test. JHB Nov 2012 #35
+1. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #49
What if someone hits the teacher head-on in a car crash tomorrow while he's driving to work? blue neen Nov 2012 #37
You have nailed it, my friend, in 2 short paragraphs - n/t coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #70
+1 deutsey Nov 2012 #112
Touche! smirkymonkey Nov 2012 #159
I wonder if your daughter's math teacher would allow people to have math employees do their work JVS Nov 2012 #41
I think that teachers needs to be reported to the school board. Zoeisright Nov 2012 #43
There are many good explanations here, but explaining it to the mind of a kid can be difficult. Incitatus Nov 2012 #46
Here is the answer argiel1234 Nov 2012 #47
And if one kid is handed 10,000 points for not even taking the test? Marr Nov 2012 #50
This ^^^ AlexSatan Nov 2012 #105
1% of the kids get a percentage of the points awarded to the rest of his classmates. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #107
Yep deutsey Nov 2012 #114
Students aren't born with a hundred points on the tests they take. ck4829 Nov 2012 #51
Students aren't born with 110 points on their tests, but many who run our society bulloney Nov 2012 #79
Why would it be fair for one student to do nothing and get a 1,877,995% or enough TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #52
One kid in class starts the year with a guaranteed 110 on every test LadyHawkAZ Nov 2012 #54
Comparing a test, where all people are treated equally to a progressive tax system used Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #55
What an idiot. Hissyspit Nov 2012 #57
How 'bout this? BouzoukiKing Nov 2012 #58
I wonder Milliesmom Nov 2012 #59
I'd be more interested in having that teacher explain his stupidity abelenkpe Nov 2012 #60
What a farce PD Turk Nov 2012 #61
Not brilliant, but remembering that I could have been faced with the same question. . . bvf Nov 2012 #62
Test points are part of you, Money is part of the world intaglio Nov 2012 #63
That's not how money works. harmonicon Nov 2012 #64
Okay, let's play with this jmowreader Nov 2012 #65
well now I am annoyed hfojvt Nov 2012 #67
The problem with the analogy is that every student is on an even playing field. jmondine Nov 2012 #68
Let's try the analogy of an entire math class XemaSab Nov 2012 #71
Every question on your test is worth half a point and every question on his test is worth one point Azathoth Nov 2012 #72
If the person who made 110 points had a clean, warm classroom and a small class in which to learn MADem Nov 2012 #73
Actually it is more like this quaker bill Nov 2012 #74
If his analogy were true (it isn't) He would be the one with 72 that gets 19 points Taitertots Nov 2012 #75
Hey teach...Too bad you're a teacher and don't realize you just describe precisely why you should Ya Basta Nov 2012 #76
This one is easy: The Straight Story Nov 2012 #77
Tell him to stop reading the spam from whistler162 Nov 2012 #78
Ask if girls should earn a score of 75% demwing Nov 2012 #80
We need to stop pushing that line 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #87
Nope, I'm fine with the truth demwing Nov 2012 #94
Pay inequality between careers definitely exists. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #113
Not what I read at all demwing Nov 2012 #118
Male and female workers who make the same choices earn nearly the same pay. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #147
The truth is a great thing and I am all for it 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #120
Just curious, which I should respond to-- demwing Nov 2012 #125
When a group that sought to prove the 30% wage gap 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #141
This message was self-deleted by its author HiPointDem Nov 2012 #156
It's a completely false analogy union_maid Nov 2012 #81
Bumper sticker logic jollyreaper2112 Nov 2012 #82
tell the teacher he gets an "A" in Math, but an "F" in social studies and history quinnox Nov 2012 #83
^^ This. Myrina Nov 2012 #136
But America is a nation. It is a society, made up of individuals. PATXgirl Nov 2012 #84
Right, because hunger and homelessness is like getting a C- Cal Carpenter Nov 2012 #85
I'd agree with that if everyone were given the same test 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #86
Is this a public school? If so where does he think his income is coming from? Puregonzo1188 Nov 2012 #88
You Don't Need An Analogy ProfessorGAC Nov 2012 #89
It is simply a false equivalency, end of story.... NotThisTime Nov 2012 #90
A more accurate analogy for the parties might be JoeyT Nov 2012 #91
He himself is being given points by others. Kaleva Nov 2012 #92
So....Is This Teacher's Behavior Now Accepted As Proper? Paladin Nov 2012 #93
What the teacher is telling your kid is amoral. reusrename Nov 2012 #95
Who's to say they didn't work just as hard? OnionPatch Nov 2012 #96
Well, you can start with the obvious, which is that academic grades can't be compared to income. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 #97
I love this Analogy... WaitWut Nov 2012 #98
That was funny Digit Nov 2012 #99
+1 ... Paris Hilton makes more than the teacher, so clearly, she is smarter than this teacher. JoePhilly Nov 2012 #117
Smarter *and* harder working 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #121
Ultra-stupid analogy bongbong Nov 2012 #102
yep Locrian Nov 2012 #116
The analogy falls apart simply because some people are better at math than others slackmaster Nov 2012 #104
How did he feel giving 19 points to the banksters who cheated on the test? deutsey Nov 2012 #108
Should dumb people be allowed to eat? dawg Nov 2012 #111
As a teacher, I'll say GaYellowDawg Nov 2012 #119
The purpose of the test is to measure knowledge Lucinda Nov 2012 #122
Suppose one person inherits the 110 test points and doesn't even have to take the test. drm604 Nov 2012 #123
Yup. I was shocked at how conservative most of my teacher colleagues turned out to be. The Midway Rebel Nov 2012 #124
Shit, I'd gladly donate 25 pounds to whoever wants them! Duer 157099 Nov 2012 #126
Use logic. Logic says that if any of the premises upaloopa Nov 2012 #127
The kid with 110 points should spend time tutoring the kid with 75. Class grades aren't zero sum. Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2012 #128
um...wait...isn't that the argument they use against clean air? DonRedwood Nov 2012 #130
People who use ill fitting analogies to make arguments... Quantess Nov 2012 #131
Can the kids give away their test points? If not then the analogy is baseless. chowder66 Nov 2012 #132
Can I just inherit points from my Dad? ThoughtCriminal Nov 2012 #133
I used that one Stuckinthebush Nov 2012 #152
Because it takes nothing away from you, and increases your humanity Myrina Nov 2012 #135
In his world it would be OK to sell the extra points. GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #139
The basis of the argument is that both grade points and income are connected to MERIT and hard work GiaGiovanni Nov 2012 #144
The assumption here is that earnings are directly related to how hard you work LeftishBrit Nov 2012 #146
S'easy. Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #149
Unless I had the rest of the Class answer all of those questions FOR ME... Volaris Nov 2012 #153
+1 HiPointDem Nov 2012 #155
It must gall him that he's teaching EVERYONE ELSE'S kids and paying with HIS taxes. jtuck004 Nov 2012 #157
Ask him about plagarism rules... whistler162 Nov 2012 #158
Only if they were a Walmart heir and paid for it. nt tsuki Nov 2012 #160
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