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49. Or we could tax the churches.

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If Dems won the election, why is ANYONE talking about a 3:1 ratio of spending cuts/tax increases??? [View all] reformist2 Nov 2012 OP

I believe the last offer we made was 2.5:1, they just want to get that deal done Motown_Johnny Nov 2012 #1

Yes, and austerity wlil slow the economy and harm millions. woo me with science Nov 2012 #90

As one famous Democrat said, "Arithmetic." maui902 Nov 2012 #2

There's more than one way to do the math. We should be talking about MUCH higher rates on the rich. reformist2 Nov 2012 #4

Not suggesting it's the only way to cut $4 trillion of the deficit maui902 Nov 2012 #13

Higher rates on the rich will make the government how much money? underoath Nov 2012 #48

So you are against raising taxes on the rich? Care Acutely Nov 2012 #64

^^^THIS^^^ HangOnKids Nov 2012 #71

Hell yes I noticed too! Care Acutely Nov 2012 #81

50 million yearly ...either way, they pony up like the rest of us uponit7771 Nov 2012 #79

"Long term deficit/debt that Democrats?Republicans alike agree is a drag on the economy. Fuddnik Nov 2012 #7

A correction that needs to be made. "let Bush tax cuts expire on those rhett o rick Nov 2012 #19

Good point and I missed that in my post maui902 Nov 2012 #20

NP. It is a very common mistake and, like you said, important to keep it right rhett o rick Nov 2012 #21

Let's make 99.999% of those cuts in Defense. Roland99 Nov 2012 #27

Just remember, AlexSatan Nov 2012 #62

Right...but it also goes toward overpaid contractors and horrendously expensive weapons systems. Roland99 Nov 2012 #73

Some does AlexSatan Nov 2012 #74

You know why weapons systems are horrendously overpriced. jmowreader Nov 2012 #77

There is a ton of pork in programs other than SS, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, unemployment.... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #3

Because the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy only reduce the deficit by $50 billion/yr. banned from Kos Nov 2012 #5

Then raise taxes on the rich so that it reduces the deficit by $500 billion. reformist2 Nov 2012 #6

Then raise the tax rate on the 1% to 90%. Temporarily, of course. We won the election the 1% rhett o rick Nov 2012 #18

Last I checked the Republicans still control the House. n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2012 #44

Since you make me guess your point, I assume you mean we should rhett o rick Nov 2012 #46

Do you really think there is any likelihood of the Republicans setting the highest income tax PoliticAverse Nov 2012 #47

Do you really think we should cut SS and Medicare benefits? nm rhett o rick Nov 2012 #52

We're talking about your delusion that the Republican controlled House would set a 90% top tax rate PoliticAverse Nov 2012 #56

Excuse me, I thought this thread was about cutting spending to fix the deficit. rhett o rick Nov 2012 #72

Deficits and Debt are NOT our #1 problem SHRED Nov 2012 #8

Sorry, can't hear you. PETRUS Nov 2012 #31

yes, even krugman said newspeak Nov 2012 #55

+10000 RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #76

Simple: because Repubs still have the House. caseymoz Nov 2012 #9

Ahhh yes... 99Forever Nov 2012 #10

So, who has recently talked about it? Have a link? GOTV Nov 2012 #11

Fresh off the virtual right wing "third way" presses! Dragonfli Nov 2012 #68

If we cut the military spending, they might all start having affairs and endangering Bluenorthwest Nov 2012 #12

Er... LWolf Nov 2012 #14

not all democrats are liberal iamthebandfanman Nov 2012 #15

Cut the DOD ONLY. That is the only cut needed on point Nov 2012 #16

Good luck with that. The only thing that seems to be passing for a 'cut' is a reduction PoliticAverse Nov 2012 #58

That will really help the unemployment rate for vets (nt) AlexSatan Nov 2012 #63

This is why I believe we shouldn't compromise Hutzpa Nov 2012 #17

Until the Democratic Party holds filibuster proof majorities in both houses of Congress maui902 Nov 2012 #45

Not this talk about filibuster proof majority in Congress again Hutzpa Nov 2012 #51

"I'm sure we can find republicans willing to work with us" NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #75

Because a2liberal Nov 2012 #22

Because they didn't win. The Republicans won the House, which is enough to block anything. n/t Dawgs Nov 2012 #23

We have to be realistic think_critically Nov 2012 #24

Or we could tax the churches. go west young man Nov 2012 #49

Thank you for your CONCERN. KamaAina Nov 2012 #50

The president is a conservative Doctor_J Nov 2012 #25

So true. Absolute fiction made up by Grover Nordquist go west young man Nov 2012 #26

And one other thing. go west young man Nov 2012 #28

Some John2 Nov 2012 #29

Why don't we wait to see what is going to be done? Loudestlib Nov 2012 #30

Because by then it's usually too late. Fuddnik Nov 2012 #32

Sit quietly and wait? NO. We need to yell and scream constantly to keep our leaders in line. reformist2 Nov 2012 #33

That John2 Nov 2012 #34

Cut the Pentagon. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #35

Oh, Reformist2! ReRe Nov 2012 #36

Because the REAL bosses Le Taz Hot Nov 2012 #37

This is the correct answer. woo me with science Nov 2012 #69

Because it's better than 10:1? kelliekat44 Nov 2012 #38

You really don't get how it works, do you? WeekendWarrior Nov 2012 #39

Dems should offer a 1:1 deal, or we go over the "cliff" (which I'm not scared of, btw.) reformist2 Nov 2012 #41

I respect that you might not be scared personally maui902 Nov 2012 #59

yeah, all democrats can do is lose; they can never win against the almight GOP. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #67

I don't know if we are really ready for the tax increases jschurchin Nov 2012 #40

They want cuts- cut Homeland Security, TSA, prisons for profit, charter schools for profit RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #42

Because the guy that got reelected President has repeatedly supported a 'Grand Bargain' PoliticAverse Nov 2012 #43

reverse those odds, and I will support it. ChairmanAgnostic Nov 2012 #53

So you're in favor of letting the Bush tax cuts expire for everyone? maui902 Nov 2012 #61

You seem to be new here. Yes, many of us on DU are in favor of just exactly that:: Raksha Nov 2012 #86

I am concerned about just letting the all the cuts expire maui902 Nov 2012 #88

The President made clear he had to make cuts. I just hope he knows that cutting the poor... hrmjustin Nov 2012 #54

It's no wonder the GOP tries everything in the book to raiload the results. Many of the top-ranking. wake.up.america Nov 2012 #57

Because the real bosses who pony up the bribes...er, campaign contributions...demand it. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2012 #60

+1000000 woo me with science Nov 2012 #70

kr HiPointDem Nov 2012 #65

We're asking the same thing in our household. avaistheone1 Nov 2012 #66

The professional left are the ones talking krawhitham Nov 2012 #78

That is incorrect, unless you think the third way is a bunch of professional leftists Dragonfli Nov 2012 #80

Claim 6 is a flat out lie and they never substantiate it at all. joshcryer Nov 2012 #82

Actually I think they are Republican infiltrators masquerading as Democrats Dragonfli Nov 2012 #83

My wishful thinking? They are lying. It's a straight up lie. joshcryer Nov 2012 #84

Are they Democratic liars, or Republican liars, they should be fought either way Dragonfli Nov 2012 #85

I said in the other thread that they're conservatives or right leaning or Republicans. joshcryer Nov 2012 #87

Exactly. This is about AUSTERITY, not just Medicare and SS. woo me with science Nov 2012 #89

We need to be talking about the logic of slashing the budget at all right now. woo me with science Nov 2012 #91