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In the discussion thread: This U of California video about fructose is a must see. Fructose is a liver toxin. [View all]

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Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:35 PM

liberal_at_heart (3,945 posts)

29. high fructose corn syrup is bad for you

not fructose. If you have a high uric acid problem then yes you should check your levels and try not to consume too much food that will increase your levels, but not everyone has high uric acid levels.

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This U of California video about fructose is a must see. Fructose is a liver toxin. [View all]	snagglepuss	Nov 2012	OP
what? a naturally-occuring sugar found in fruit & other plant foods eaten for thousands of years	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#1
Went right over your head.	haikugal	Nov 2012	#2
that's the ticket.	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#23
Fast forward to 42:00 minutes into the video for an indepth explanation of the bio-chemistry	snagglepuss	Nov 2012	#3
I know how fructose is metabolized, I have an advanced degree in the field, and it ain't a liver	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#22
Utter piffle. You haven't even watched the video.	snagglepuss	Nov 2012	#51
it's piffle that i have an advanced degree in the field? if you say so madame mindreader.	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#57
You have an advanced degree yet you quote wiki.	snagglepuss	Nov 2012	#61
you prefer i should quote from the scholarly paper wikipedia cited & quoted for the passage I	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#62
Interesting stuff.	KurtNYC	Nov 2012	#4
low fat is so that you will have a healthy heart	liberal_at_heart	Nov 2012	#32
Food is BAD for you!!!!	longship	Nov 2012	#5
not only fruit -- also many vegetables, honey, and other miscellaneous plant foods. liver toxin my	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#24
You don't have to be a great biochemist to see through this.	man4allcats	Nov 2012	#6
Imagine for a moment if virtually all processed food and all beverages contained alcohol.	KurtNYC	Nov 2012	#7
Ah, no one considers Wikipedia to be proof of anything	mrsadm	Nov 2012	#14
Exactly my point.	man4allcats	Nov 2012	#34
but some doctor who's pushing a book is proof of something?	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#43
Makes sense. For tens of thousands of years of human evolution, people in non-tropical climates	Arugula Latte	Nov 2012	#16
Exactly. Before I got diagnosed with high uric acid I consumed a lot of fruit	snagglepuss	Nov 2012	#18
fructose also found in honey and many/most vegetables. for example, carrots and corn also contain	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#25
Right, but the amount of fructose available to people compared to what we have now	Arugula Latte	Nov 2012	#30
and were corn, sweet potatoes, onions, and peppers also 'rare treats'? i heard that the south	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#35
Well, I was responding specifically to this post by man4allcats, about moderation:	Arugula Latte	Nov 2012	#37
There are plenty of cultures that consumed an all-plant diet and did just fine, and in fact,	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#40
Good stuff....	Junkdrawer	Nov 2012	#8
Coke does not have 55 mg of salt; it has 55 mg of sodium. And the HFCS does not cover up the "taste"	Brickbat	Nov 2012	#9
The difference between salt is sodium is neglible so I fail to see your	snagglepuss	Nov 2012	#13
Your utter lack of chemistry makes further discussion unlikely.	Brickbat	Nov 2012	#21
Can't cite any sources eh?	snagglepuss	Nov 2012	#49
You're seriously asking for sources that explain the difference between salt and sodium?	Brickbat	Nov 2012	#54
salt = sodium & chloride in a 50/50 mix. sodium is not salt.	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#26
Why don't you start with stating your source that supports your assertion about salt?	Major Nikon	Nov 2012	#28
Obviously you didn't watch the video.	snagglepuss	Nov 2012	#50
I did watch the video	Major Nikon	Nov 2012	#52
It's actually 45mg of sodium, but that's still a decent bit for a 12 oz can. n/t	hughee99	Nov 2012	#39
Actually, it's low for a serving size. If it were 35 mg, it would qualify for the "very low sodium	Brickbat	Nov 2012	#44
Quiet, you!	trotsky	Nov 2012	#53
Time for me to start drinking, obviously...	Brickbat	Nov 2012	#55
Very interesting. Valuable, even.	xfundy	Nov 2012	#10
Dr. Lustig will have a book ...	mrsadm	Nov 2012	#11
Thanks for the heads up. He clearly knows his stuff.	snagglepuss	Nov 2012	#20
I knew fruit was poisonous!	cthulu2016	Nov 2012	#12
You obviously didn't watch the video. He explains why whole fruit isn't the issue.	snagglepuss	Nov 2012	#15
I didn't watch the video, but I think I can guess why whole fruit isn't bad for you.	Honeycombe8	Nov 2012	#31
but it contains liver toxin!!!!!	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#41
Save the snark for the lounge.	snagglepuss	Nov 2012	#46
Table sugar = sucrose = glucose+fructose	GeorgeGist	Nov 2012	#17
And your point is?	snagglepuss	Nov 2012	#19
don't eat vegetables either, or honey or sugar cane or stevia or any other plant food because	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#27
high fructose corn syrup is bad for you	liberal_at_heart	Nov 2012	#29
So is table sugar	Major Nikon	Nov 2012	#33
yes, table sugar is bad for you	liberal_at_heart	Nov 2012	#36
fructose is always found 'by itself' once it enters the digestive system.	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#42
That is a myth. All fructose works the same in the body. Whole fruit contains managable	snagglepuss	Nov 2012	#47
you're the one spreading 'myth' here. "30% of fructose is converted to fat" is BS. There's no	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#58
Interestingly, I happen to have a 12 oz can of Coke right here. It's 45mg of Sodium.	hughee99	Nov 2012	#38
Could it be the genetically modified high fructose sugar that is the problem	RepublicansRZombies	Nov 2012	#45
Here is an informative article about fructose and how the body ie the liver	snagglepuss	Nov 2012	#48
"In nearly every way, fructose is metabolized the same way as ethanol" = BULL	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#59
This is BS. This prof needs to take a remedial BioChem class.	Odin2005	Nov 2012	#56
What a compelling argument.	snagglepuss	Nov 2012	#60

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