In the discussion thread: Yanked "You Tube" of Paula Broadwell's Speech (revealing State Secrets at Denver U) Resurfaces! [View all]
Response to KoKo (Original post)
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:03 PM
Octafish (37,153 posts)
14. CIA Torture never stopped.
That was supposed to have stopped.
A Strange Resignation
Why was Petraeus Really Ousted?
by BART GRUZALSKI
CounterPunch Nov 12, 2012
The other possibility is good old-fashioned pillow-talk, the likes of which we haven’t seen since Christine Keeler’s association with John Profumo, British Secretary of State for War, led to his resignation in the early sixties.
In the Profumo Affair, as it has come to be called, no secrets were exposed. In Petreaus’ case the pillow-talk may have exposed an outlawed and illegal activity of our CIA. Broadwell, Petreaus’ biographer and lover, inadvertently may have revealed what was a “top secret” during a public talk at the University of Denver. She was in the Q&A part of the event when a questioner asked the following innocuous question: “General Petraeus in his new role has a very difficult situation now in the center of the situation in Benghazi. Do you have any comments?”
Broadwell did. After giving a bit of background, she mentioned that the “ground forces at the CIA Annex were requesting reinforcements.” Then she added: “I don’t know if a lot of you have heard this but the CIA annex had actually taken a couple of Libyan militia members prisoners.” She told her audience that the attack was thought to be “an effort to get them back.” Oops.
U.S. officials have not made reference to that possible motive in numerous accounts of the Benghazi attack and for good reason. ““The CIA has not had detention authority since January 2009, when Executive Order 13491 was issued. Any suggestion that the Agency is still in the detention business is uninformed and baseless,” said a CIA spokesperson in a statement issues on Sunday night.
Looks like we could have a smoking pillow but we’ll probably never know. In our “democracy” the military and other forces act “in our name” but we are often not told what is done or why, even if it is as illegal as torture, or extrajudicial killings, or renditions, or, as may be the case here, illegal detentions. Contrary to what the public is led to believe, the main reason for many facts being classified as “top secret” isn’t so that the designated-enemy-of-the-moment won’t know—the “enemy” usually knows only too well, as Iraqis knew about the torture that was going on. The reason for secrecy is to keep the facts from us, the people, so that we are not a fully informed citizenry. That’s one reality of “top secret” in our nominal democracy.
Thank you for a great OP, KoKo. We really are in gangster times.
'Those of us who had worked for the Kennedy election were tolerated in the government for that reason and had a say, but foreign policy was still with the Council on Foreign Relations people.' -- J.K. Galbraith
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