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Response to Suji to Seoul (Reply #9)
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:25 AM
grantcart (40,715 posts)
11. I have had a lot of experience with both groups and couldn't disagree more.
Jehovah's Witnesses are unapologetic homophobes
Jim Moon is webmaster of A Common Bond, an international support group for ex-Jehovah's Witnesses who are gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender. 1 Their web site states that:
"The Jehovah's Witness religion teaches its membership to believe that homosexuality is 'detestable', 'an abomination', 'abhorrent', and is caused by demon possession. Because of this, thousands of gay Witnesses are living lives of deeply closeted guilt, and fear of destruction by God. Those who choose to leave, or are expelled from the Witnesses face immediate isolation and shunning from family and friends. It is for this reason that 'A Common Bond' was created - to offer support and comfort to those who once thought they were alone and condemned...Gays and lesbians who have been kicked out of the JWs are in a special need for all the emotional and spiritual support they can get. If JWs don't conform completely to the sect's doctrines and practices, including a strict prohibition against merely being gay, they are disfellowshipped, which is a severe punishment. It amounts to total ostracism."
The few JW I have met are rabid anti intellectual kooks who ferverantly believe in things like 144,000 being elected for Salvation. JWs' have also called the date for World's end several times. (All but a few of the leaders even know that the word "Jehovah" -a mistransliteration of the German- and "Yahweh" don't even appear in the Bible)
I have grown up with, gone to school with Mormons (including Romney's cousin) and have a lot of Mormon clients. I find them nice, almost over bearingly so. On the mission they try to convert, but I have found them respectful and courteous even when I am being unbearibly frank and cause them to tear up. After the mission I have never had a Mormon acquaintence try to persuade me, in fact most of the time they seem to want to avoid discussions with non Mormons. Most, if not all Mormons I have met in the last few years, strike me as being Mormon because they like the family based program that allows them to share their religious experience with their children in a way that most Protestant Churches don't.
While I am courteous and non confrontational in public I consider anyone who comes to my home and wants to talk religion, and who accepts an invitation to come into my home, to be open season for a brutal unveiling about the facts that are in the Bible. Both Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormon Supervisors take lengths to mark my home as one NOT to call on.
This is an oddly strange coincidence, a story of where I was getting angry about Mormons and at that very instance a JW knocked on my door.
The outcome was not pretty.
which was followed up with this incident a few days later:
Hubris goes before the fall, humility goes before victory.
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I have had a lot of experience with both groups and couldn't disagree more.
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