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TBF

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44. You may not find anything wrong with that -

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:27 PM

Nov 2012

as a socialist I find it repulsive.

But of course, as you note, certainly not surprising. I'd love to see a universal health care system in this country for this very reason. As long as we are dealing with capitalism businesses are going to fight anything that affects them. Other industrialized countries have figured this out and solved the problem ...

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Why are small businesses now saying they have to lay people off? [View all] Stuckinthebush Nov 2012 OP

What is ridicullous is that healthcare is tied to employers at all Marrah_G Nov 2012 #1

Agreed Stuckinthebush Nov 2012 #2

This is the only correct answer in this thread former-republican Nov 2012 #9

we will watch and see and i predict you will be wrong. spanone Nov 2012 #12

I don't like to be proven wrong but in this case I hope you are right former-republican Nov 2012 #17

+1 leftstreet Nov 2012 #26

Look a bit downthread and note that National Health... TreasonousBastard Nov 2012 #30

100% agree obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #69

Remember ... GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #3

Drama queens. I got an email from an acquaintance. proud2BlibKansan Nov 2012 #4

Why in the hell would a doctor say that? Stuckinthebush Nov 2012 #5

I'm not sure the doctor said it. proud2BlibKansan Nov 2012 #16

The goper reactionaries laying off or closing their businesses will SDjack Nov 2012 #6

Maybe an angle for competitors - Our pizza's .20 higher than Papa Johns so our employees are insured riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #37

You have it backwards hootinholler Nov 2012 #41

That whole repug meme is dumb. Bonhomme Richard Nov 2012 #7

I think that most of this is just pissiness over the election SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #8

if you have 25 full time employees, you should cover them tjwash Nov 2012 #34

Even if it endangers the existence of the business? SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #35

Wow! The avg premium cost to an employer is probably in the $5 - $10k range. riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #38

It's bullshit... The moron from Papa Johns SomethingFishy Nov 2012 #10

This is Papa John's house in Louisville - TBF Nov 2012 #13

Especially since all he has to do is raise the price 14 cents per pizza n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #14

I think he could do with a smigeon less profit as well if he absolutely TBF Nov 2012 #19

I don't know how many pizzas they sell in a year SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #22

You may not find anything wrong with that - TBF Nov 2012 #44

Anyone that can afford to buy a pizza from Papa John's SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #45

I'll bet John in his palace can afford it as well ... TBF Nov 2012 #48

You're right, we'll just have to disagree SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #49

Maybe he's "destroying" his company by giving pizzas to the NFL - TBF Nov 2012 #52

Why the snark? SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #53

Your interpretation of the "hurting capitalist" is the problem - TBF Nov 2012 #54

I've got news for you Sparky SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #56

I don't know who "Sparky" is but if you are responding TBF Nov 2012 #57

I'm defending the right of companies to make profits SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #58

It's quite clear what you are doing. TBF Nov 2012 #59

What I'm doing is presenting facts SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #61

curious. argiel1234 Nov 2012 #64

If you've read the entire exchange SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #65

Its simple argiel1234 Nov 2012 #66

Current profits won't cover the cost of the insurance SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #67

If current profits wont cover the cost of insurance argiel1234 Nov 2012 #70

My mistake SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #73

Unfortunately you are mistaken in your numbers argiel1234 Nov 2012 #75

Sorry so slow, had to put dinner in the oven SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #78

your quote argiel1234 Nov 2012 #68

Who at Papa John's died in order to sell a pizza? SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #72

"I'm not ashamed of believing in capitalism" - TBF Nov 2012 #76

So that I'm perfectly clear and not misrepresenting what you said SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #79

I believe that socialism would be a better economic system TBF Nov 2012 #80

You might want to look again SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #81

OK, you disagree with CNN - posting here again for others to listen TBF Nov 2012 #83

Thanks for the link SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #84

Which 1 percent are you sick of? Marrah_G Nov 2012 #85

Maybe you can explain SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #87

I'm still curious which one percent you are sick of? Marrah_G Nov 2012 #88

I'm actually sick of two separate 1% groups SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #90

I believe that it can be a bit of both Marrah_G Nov 2012 #91

A little fact checking from CNN that you may want to share w/ those who threaten to layoff employees maui902 Nov 2012 #62

Ha! Thank you. nt TBF Nov 2012 #77

To provide an analogy dipsydoodle Nov 2012 #11

no one expects it to be free. but you pay half what we do and get better ejpoeta Nov 2012 #28

The aggregate dipsydoodle Nov 2012 #31

I don't think they are PSPS Nov 2012 #15

Because they are repeating the ideology and rhetoric mmonk Nov 2012 #18

to deflect anger from themselves to Obama n/t DebJ Nov 2012 #20

No matter how many times you tell them, it doesn't sink in. Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2012 #21

It's bluffing. Or their business will die and their competitors take over, hire their employees... JackN415 Nov 2012 #23

Sour grapes. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #24

They're jumping the gun and all upset from... TreasonousBastard Nov 2012 #25

Excellent post SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #27

that's exactly what my Republican friend said his... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2012 #51

Agreed. The $2k penalty is FAR cheaper than the actual premium cost for employers riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #36

Good. Other sane companies will grab their employees. ksoze Nov 2012 #55

they're uninformed grand-standers. veganlush Nov 2012 #29

Because FOX told them they would have to... KansDem Nov 2012 #32

Big sensitive egos have been damaged Teamster Jeff Nov 2012 #33

My, my, maybe we found a way for trickle down to work. AnnaLee Nov 2012 #39

I suspect this is mostly BS. DCBob Nov 2012 #40

They should have announce the layoffs before the election hughee99 Nov 2012 #42

Lose the lawsuits and the advertising - healthcare overheads will vanish dickthegrouch Nov 2012 #43

Because most of them are lying about laying people off. JoeyT Nov 2012 #46

In the long term, employers will probably benefit democrattotheend Nov 2012 #47

Passive Agressive. aandegoons Nov 2012 #50

Sour grapes gollygee Nov 2012 #60

$5/hr One_Life_To_Give Nov 2012 #63

I agree about passing on the cost SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #86

Because they're a bunch of fucking cry-baby Zoeisright Nov 2012 #71

They are lying to you Politicub Nov 2012 #74

Political coercion. moondust Nov 2012 #82

President Obama has HELPED our small business PennsylvaniaMatt Nov 2012 #89