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In reply to the discussion: Only thing worse than The Electoral College are right-wing halfway measures to change it. [View all]NYC Liberal
(20,135 posts)33. A straight popular vote is not fair.
A popular-vote-based system would be fair if the population were equally distributed. It isn't. The Electoral College is based on population to begin with, but the per-state structure forces candidates to visit areas other than the five or six major population centers. You say it's fair that if New York and LA have more people then they should get all the attention. But it's not, because the people of LA and New York have very different concerns and issues than people in Iowa and Ohio. There may be ~22 million people in the NY metro area, but the concerns of farmers in Iowa or auto factory workers in Michigan need to be addressed too. The president is president of the entire country, not just of the big cities (and I live in a big city).
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Only thing worse than The Electoral College are right-wing halfway measures to change it. [View all]
CreekDog
Nov 2012
OP
The most new electoral votes that would be added for Puerto Rico would be 2
SickOfTheOnePct
Nov 2012
#7
No it would be 3 and Puerto Rico if state, would obviously get house reps
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#8
then DC would decrease to 2 so it would seem the law would change before that happens
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#10
oh,sorry- I see...(then lets pull them from Wyoming and Kansas and SD and
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#12
New York City and Los Angeles don't have rallies because their EV's aren't in doubt.
hughee99
Nov 2012
#23
Your freeper like idiocy doesn't deserve anything less than derision and scorn.
Son of Gob
Nov 2012
#46
Sure they do, just like urban areas deserve to have their concerns addressed
Hippo_Tron
Nov 2012
#62
Don't really want to debate the overrepresentation thing, that's not really the point
Hippo_Tron
Nov 2012
#68
Yes, that's what my OP says, and that's what the post you're responding to says
CreekDog
Nov 2012
#20
I'm not a 'good is the enemy of the perfect' kind of person, an EC-hybrid approach isn't *good*
CreekDog
Nov 2012
#28
Then it will never happen because the small states needed to pass an amendment are the same who...
JVS
Nov 2012
#55
I've been looking for an election map broken down by Congressional district
SickOfTheOnePct
Nov 2012
#25
Uh the election breakdown by congressional district is approximately the
Warren Stupidity
Nov 2012
#27
Take away 2 electoral votes from each state, that will make it more proportional population-wise.
Odin2005
Nov 2012
#32
But you wouldn't see it "all over the country" with a straight popular vote.
NYC Liberal
Nov 2012
#37
I disagree, Democrats would visit Idaho and Oklahoma if there were no electoral college
Hippo_Tron
Nov 2012
#50
Have you ever worked on a campaign? Doing ONLY GOTV makes no sense whatsoever
Hippo_Tron
Nov 2012
#56
You're wrong. Obama won the majority of his votes from safe blue states this election.
NYC Liberal
Nov 2012
#60
Here are the states joining the "right wing attempt" to fix the Electoral College
SickOfTheOnePct
Nov 2012
#39
Give each state 1 electoral vote, tied to that state's popular vote.
cherokeeprogressive
Nov 2012
#48
No it isn't. Why should 1 state get a candidate more than 25% to the finish line?
cherokeeprogressive
Nov 2012
#63