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Moostache

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35. Frum is the kind of Republican to fear...
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:17 PM
Nov 2012

He understands things on a deeper level than the leadership of his party and he has ideas - they may not be ideas that I agree with, but he is by and large a serious man and the kind of person who could wrest the mantle of leadership away from self-aggrandizing idiots like Grover Nordquist.

Frum is also the most outspoken Republican to see and understand that losing the popular vote in 5 of 6 elections (and had Bush not been granted the Presidency by his father's Supreme Court it would have been 6 for 6) and RECOGNIZE that is a pattern that bodes ill for the party's long term viability. He also is naming names and calling out the exploitation of the gullible "base".

I expect a "scandal" to envelope Mr. Frum soon...or worse.

Of course not. nt silvershadow Nov 2012 #1
Yes, and they will continue to blithely ignore it. That's how they enough Nov 2012 #2
+1. eom 99 Percent Sure Nov 2012 #22
Home Truths, Ma'am The Magistrate Nov 2012 #3
David Frum is the only conservative worth listening to. He may not always be right spooky3 Nov 2012 #4
He easily quadrupled the collective IQ of the group by his participation. reusrename Nov 2012 #20
Yes, that was amazingly insightful. I hadn't thought of it in those ways exactly... Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #33
It has to be the best two minute expose on the subject. reusrename Nov 2012 #59
That's a fantastic video. Thanks for posting it. n/t cui bono Nov 2012 #82
A helluva video. I've got to check dis Louis Ludwig guy out. Thanks for the post. ancianita Nov 2012 #114
That's an extraordinary video. Thanks. eom truth2power Nov 2012 #139
Frum is the kind of Republican to fear... Moostache Nov 2012 #35
I fear the crazies more than the sane ones. MNBrewer Nov 2012 #60
This, I agree with. A smart Republican (like Frum, like Steve Schmidt) Volaris Nov 2012 #122
Schmidt, Frum and a few others seem to be hifiguy Nov 2012 #163
Wow, Volaris! Rainngirl Nov 2012 #168
He's still a neocon. That's why he endorsed Romney. MissMarple Nov 2012 #170
+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #45
Frum and Susan Del Percio are the only republicans I can stand to listen to. IL Lib Nov 2012 #75
Agreed. I like Susan. And I'm warming up to Frum. eom ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2012 #169
wow! proud he's a fellow Lymie :=) n/t laruemtt Nov 2012 #145
They're still surprised that the majority of Americans voted in TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #5
Because they live a life of illusion. jonthebru Nov 2012 #39
very well said..."live a life of illusion" nt Stuart G Nov 2012 #138
Same Old GOP Double-Standard GatorLarry Nov 2012 #154
yes, he called them out, those still living in that bubble newspeak Nov 2012 #162
pleased to see some conservatives bucking the lemming parade ibegurpard Nov 2012 #6
I don't want that.... femrap Nov 2012 #26
+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #46
Scarborogh reiterated: "Conservatives have been lied to." The Blue Flower Nov 2012 #7
The Oligarchs have pulled the wool over the eyes of the conservatives. rhett o rick Nov 2012 #38
perfect ? kpete Nov 2012 #41
Found on the net (I use it quite a bit in the message board wars) - "Hey tea party fanatics, google progree Nov 2012 #58
Dopey ceeRoy Nov 2012 #128
buh bye Gabi Hayes Nov 2012 #131
?? "buh bye" ?? - I think he was agreeing with my characterization of tea party fanatics, not progree Nov 2012 #149
yeah....now I look dopey forever. not unusual, that Gabi Hayes Nov 2012 #153
We told them, for years, that they're being lied to MNBrewer Nov 2012 #61
That's becasue Rush and Crew told them to. THAT'S Frum's point. Volaris Nov 2012 #123
Hilarious to watch Dead Intern sit there and pretend he wasn't beac Nov 2012 #88
The Asshole Is Dumb As A Bag Of Cat Shit HangOnKids Nov 2012 #93
My cats resent that They know their shit is smarter catbyte Nov 2012 #95
...heh heh heh ... progressoid Nov 2012 #160
ROFLMAO catbyte Nov 2012 #161
!!! hifiguy Nov 2012 #164
It would be AWESOME to find out he is one of Frum's "Named Names", Volaris Nov 2012 #125
That is unbelievable that Joe Scarborough, Chuch Todd, and avebury Nov 2012 #111
The utter disconnect is mind-boggling. Ineeda Nov 2012 #133
Frum's analysis is right on BainsBane Nov 2012 #8
My cousin's husband was still like that on Election night Stagecoach Nov 2012 #54
"conservative entertainment media complex" Volaris Nov 2012 #124
How about COMIC? Doc Holliday Nov 2012 #135
I am fully in support of your improvement suggestion. How do we schedule a committee meeting, Volaris Nov 2012 #142
sing it, David Whisp Nov 2012 #9
+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #48
Full of BS, comical "conservative entertainment complex" who call themselves "news" AnotherMother4Peace Nov 2012 #10
I couldn't believe what I was hearing.. butterfly77 Nov 2012 #11
"Those who seem to despise half of Amer­ica will never be trusted to govern any of it. bloomington-lib Nov 2012 #12
But he doesn't get to take the next step TomClash Nov 2012 #13
Everybody talking on TV is wearing a suit that costs more than two week's pay for the viewers... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #14
Yep, the Limbaughs, Hannitys, Levins, Coulters, Ingrahams, O'Reillys, and their ilk rateyes Nov 2012 #15
These people femrap Nov 2012 #28
Murdoch is not going to change... sendero Nov 2012 #156
He should femrap Nov 2012 #157
I thought that through the oughts, but they're just as relevant as ever. valerief Nov 2012 #51
"....because half the country contribute nothing to the national endeavor." Skidmore Nov 2012 #16
Re-read FiveGoodMen Nov 2012 #21
Of Course They Ignored It Bigredhunk Nov 2012 #17
I especially despise Chuck Toad. The slimy bastard is despicable. olegramps Nov 2012 #144
"Conservative entertainment complex": Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #18
yep heaven05 Nov 2012 #19
I believe it's math that explains the influence the Conservation Entertainment Complex AnotherMother4Peace Nov 2012 #23
Why did he lose? PD Turk Nov 2012 #24
yeah I thought that segment was remarkable as well Enrique Nov 2012 #25
11:33 - "I won't soon forget the lupine smile" reflection Nov 2012 #27
It's very easy to exploit that type of thinking - which is what the CEC (Conservative Entertainment AnotherMother4Peace Nov 2012 #30
Evil and vile cynicism emulatorloo Nov 2012 #31
I recall that's what Herbert Hoover thought burnsei sensei Nov 2012 #44
To Joe's credit he did have David Frum repeat that last paragraph on how the Republican Party Uncle Joe Nov 2012 #29
But only after Halperin took over as discussion moderator and asked Frum to elaborate. speedoo Nov 2012 #73
K and R...nt... Stuart G Nov 2012 #32
I would have missed this exchange had you not posted it reflection Nov 2012 #34
"The Leaders Have No Space To Operate" DallasNE Nov 2012 #36
Bookmarking as no time to watch now AllyCat Nov 2012 #37
Tired of Overpaid Cable/Radio Pundits telling us what to think and believe LovingA2andMI Nov 2012 #40
Rove and Frum as Bialystock and Bloom- stlsaxman Nov 2012 #42
He spoke of the silenced. burnsei sensei Nov 2012 #43
Yep THIS ^^^^^^ LovingA2andMI Nov 2012 #50
Didn't realize he was Canadian eridani Nov 2012 #117
I've never heard any conservative talk about poor people and the middle class like that before liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #118
I hope none of them wake up to Frum. Jennicut Nov 2012 #47
The core value of the Republican Party is to make oodles of money for the 1%. Nothing else matters. valerief Nov 2012 #49
If America has caught on to this, it's Obama's crowning achievement. harun Nov 2012 #108
Hell of a segment.... ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #52
Thank you kpete or posting this... Liberal1975 Nov 2012 #53
I don't understand how they think they can get the Latino vote and their base in the same tent.... Walk away Nov 2012 #64
I think the only way Liberal1975 Nov 2012 #66
They tried using gay rights to split the African American vote away from the Democrats MNBrewer Nov 2012 #71
How could it? Liberal1975 Nov 2012 #78
They won't do it, that's their christian fundamentalist base. It's too large a voting block. Dont call me Shirley Nov 2012 #80
I agree...though Liberal1975 Nov 2012 #81
No...no...no... DirtyDawg Nov 2012 #55
This John2 Nov 2012 #56
Good For Frum colsohlibgal Nov 2012 #57
Frum is going to be on Real Time with Bill Maher next Friday. Son of Gob Nov 2012 #62
ugh; I don't like Maher's format anymore... last night was just almost Flaxbee Nov 2012 #76
what a fascinating segment Hamlette Nov 2012 #63
"The people who made him wear cement shoes are blaming him for sinking" Dorn Nov 2012 #65
because of their tribalism? BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2012 #150
David Gregory is such a tool LiberalLovinLug Nov 2012 #67
RW rado is the main problem here. LIMBAUGH! is the name they dare not speak and that they can't certainot Nov 2012 #68
Their propaganda machine is biting them in the butt - the greedy pigs nt AnotherMother4Peace Nov 2012 #70
very simple; Romney is a cipher creon Nov 2012 #69
He gave the 1% a promise of mo' money. He took everyone else to go shit in valerief Nov 2012 #151
yes creon Nov 2012 #152
David Frum - rare Republican truth-teller cilla4progress Nov 2012 #72
David Brooks says similar things, which is also why he is derided as a "moderate"... TomCADem Nov 2012 #101
Frum concerns me for the following: Tutonic Nov 2012 #74
I found that curious as well. How, after all he said, could he think Romney would make a good pres? cui bono Nov 2012 #83
That's the thing, Frum thinks the Republicans have deviated from a more ideal course... JHB Nov 2012 #136
Poignant ! canichelouis Nov 2012 #77
so many good points on this clip southmost Nov 2012 #79
K&R DeSwiss Nov 2012 #84
If anyone thinks that the GOP will magically transform itself they are delusional. olegramps Nov 2012 #147
Did Chuck Todd break his mirror? cui bono Nov 2012 #85
I know it is petty PatSeg Nov 2012 #96
I agree. But this time it really looked completely crooked, cui bono Nov 2012 #98
Guess it was worse than usual PatSeg Nov 2012 #107
I saw this and was amazed Slit Skirt Nov 2012 #86
Two thoughts deutsey Nov 2012 #87
f.u.c.k.i.n.g.a. spanone Nov 2012 #89
I saw this PatSeg Nov 2012 #90
Priceless. MissMarple Nov 2012 #91
That maybe the first shot in the Republican civil war davidpdx Nov 2012 #92
Keep in mind that this is not a retrospective dump from Frum. ballaratocker Nov 2012 #94
Yep-- they thoroughly ignored his point about the majority being disregarded. Marr Nov 2012 #97
Gore and Clinton were right. The corporate media is the BIGGEST threat to our democracy. nt progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #99
Kick and Rec. That is just wonderful. Hekate Nov 2012 #100
I knew there had to be AlGoreRhythms Nov 2012 #102
Andrea "Greenspan" Michell MissNostalgia Nov 2012 #103
She is pathetic. FlaGranny Nov 2012 #134
"Conservative entertainment complex" shcrane71 Nov 2012 #104
Hey.... remember this? Oct 2008? AlbertCat Nov 2012 #105
Holy Shit Balls, someone on the CORPORATE media told the truth. Bravo FRUM harun Nov 2012 #106
I Want The Repugs To Remain Clueless and Crazy ! YOHABLO Nov 2012 #109
I don't SpartanDem Nov 2012 #115
! saving BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2012 #110
An AWESOME 5 minutes of Truth whathehell Nov 2012 #112
Paul Ryan's job was to sell our lives. Shameful! He is ruined in politics. Thanks! for spanking him patrice Nov 2012 #113
Looks like they want to 'turn' on the millionnaires at FUX... Amonester Nov 2012 #116
Frum's indictment is powerful. It is beyond me why he endorsed Romney. Faryn Balyncd Nov 2012 #119
Bookmarked! Needs to be brought up again by Social Media..again and again.. Cha Nov 2012 #120
Also that one: "do we spend a trillion dollars on welfare?" Amonester Nov 2012 #121
"Dared to answer?" What does that mean, or suggest? elleng Nov 2012 #126
wow, that was stunning. krkaufman Nov 2012 #127
Lindsey Graham The Wizard Nov 2012 #129
Fleeced, exploited & lied to by the conservative entertainment industry. Historic NY Nov 2012 #130
That struck me as well libodem Nov 2012 #140
All Too Rare Andy Stanton Nov 2012 #132
As if you're not part of the problem, Scar! Jester Messiah Nov 2012 #137
david gregory can always find a bright light for republicans, even in the darkest night spanone Nov 2012 #141
Frum: "Mitt Romney could have been a really good president". I really don't understand truth2power Nov 2012 #143
Conservative entertainment complex AllyCat Nov 2012 #146
AS I've been pointing out here, and over at the Orange Site: Iggy Nov 2012 #148
W understood NOTHING! BOTH elections were STOLEN for him! benld74 Nov 2012 #155
Conservatives have been lied to. That was the basic premise over the Gravis affair. grantcart Nov 2012 #158
Day-um! Now that's good shit! longship Nov 2012 #159
I pretty much hate all these people. jonthebru Nov 2012 #165
does this mean they will finally kick Rush and FOX news to the curb? liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #166
The question is, why is the activist/donor base so fricken gullible that they can be so easily spicegal Nov 2012 #167
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