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wandy (1,778 posts)

16. +1 My thoughts exactly.

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Tin Foil theory about the Rove meltdown....someone Unhacked Ohio. And he realized he was fucked as.. [View all]	yourout	Nov 2012	OP
It also explains R$mneys lack of a concession speech.	DJ13	Nov 2012	#1
Remember the speech	femrap	Nov 2012	#20
A lot of us here in Ohio worked our tails off	rbrnmw	Nov 2012	#58
Ohio Preserved Democracy in Our Republic	mckara	Nov 2012	#71
+1000 nt	ProudProgressiveNow	Nov 2012	#76
Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman	Octafish	Nov 2012	#160
These two fine men...	FarPoint	Nov 2012	#204
They also took the SOS of Ohio to Court one day before the election.....	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#208
Right...two true-blue American heroes,	Raksha	Nov 2012	#221
Thank you Ohioans!!!	Manifestor_of_Light	Nov 2012	#200
Proud of Ohio, indeed!	October	Nov 2012	#118
thank you for all you did..n/t	oldhippydude	Nov 2012	#203
he, he, he... ha, ha, ha...	defacto7	Nov 2012	#79
Sweet karma indeed. '04 was heartbreaking. It took a long time to get over that.	Doremus	Nov 2012	#120
November 2004, a couple of weeks after the election, was when I found DU also.	Raksha	Nov 2012	#156
Me too. I found DU right after the 2004 election.	mary195149	Nov 2012	#207
That was my first thought - Anonymous did it!	liberalla	Nov 2012	#167
Anonymous	femrap	Nov 2012	#175
that would be a level of political competence Democrats haven't shown in at least a decade	yurbud	Nov 2012	#88
I don't think ti was the Democrats. It was Bob Fitrakis, from the green party, who took Husted, the	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#209
For a quick second on Tuesday I got the same sinking feeling in my gut...	truebrit71	Nov 2012	#2
Additionally they thought they were going to be successful in suppressing the vote	malaise	Nov 2012	#171
Me too	MA Mom	Nov 2012	#233
Hoisted by his own petard,	Mme. Defarge	Nov 2012	#3
Um, make that "Husted by his own petard" :) - n/t	coalition_unwilling	Nov 2012	#123
Hee!	Lucy Goosey	Nov 2012	#132
I stand corrected, nt	Mme. Defarge	Nov 2012	#195
I don't even think they were ever close to winning Ohio	LynneSin	Nov 2012	#4
Husted, OH's	femrap	Nov 2012	#22
It was clear from Karl's sputtering and hair on fire demeanor that something he was	Grammy23	Nov 2012	#5
+1 My thoughts exactly.	wandy	Nov 2012	#16
I think Husted and Kasich lost their nerve.	hifiguy	Nov 2012	#35
ah, now THAT seems plausible to me. Rather than someone unhacking the hacked software,	pnwest	Nov 2012	#47
There was a federal judge watching because lawsuits were filed in Ohio about the software!	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#211
I'm coming down on your side ...	1StrongBlackMan	Nov 2012	#74
It's the only thing that both explains Rove's	hifiguy	Nov 2012	#75
Those patches!	Generic Other	Nov 2012	#131
It didn't exactly fail. the Judge said he was open to investigation after the eleciton if there were	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#212
I agree ...	1StrongBlackMan	Nov 2012	#219
Boom.	hifiguy	Nov 2012	#222
yes. now how do we let 3 million+ people know this?	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#229
I think we have a winner! eom	BlueMTexpat	Nov 2012	#107
I think the IT guy chickened out	malaise	Nov 2012	#133
exactly	musette_sf	Nov 2012	#176
I agree. This IS what happened.	Frank Cannon	Nov 2012	#193
It became apparent to Husted or someone else	hifiguy	Nov 2012	#196
+	lonestarnot	Nov 2012	#194
That is my take on this.... cold feet.	FarPoint	Nov 2012	#206
BINGO	kestrel91316	Nov 2012	#50
+1 those were my thoughts as well	Ya Basta	Nov 2012	#52
I agree with you...and welcome to DU!	DonRedwood	Nov 2012	#86
Its nice to be around like minded folks.. :)	Ya Basta	Nov 2012	#130
+1000 nt	ProudProgressiveNow	Nov 2012	#77
May he drift off into obscurity.	AlbertCat	Nov 2012	#84
they would have lost anyway, even with Ohio....so maybe someone unhacked it due to the futility and	amborin	Nov 2012	#114
I think his response and demeanor "proves" he thought the fix was in.	raging_moderate	Nov 2012	#115
It reminded me of the trading floor in "Trading Places"	no_hypocrisy	Nov 2012	#217
That would be some sweet revenge	Blue Owl	Nov 2012	#6
web site for ohio did go down but	questionseverything	Nov 2012	#24
Tin foil hat firmly on	sylvanus	Nov 2012	#7
Hey there sylvanus....	femrap	Nov 2012	#23
Welcome to DU.	Vincardog	Nov 2012	#68
like the scene in "Quiz Show"	Enrique	Nov 2012	#8
Yes, exactly!	Arugula Latte	Nov 2012	#27
Husted's software patch didn't work	oswaldactedalone	Nov 2012	#9
Did it occur to anyone that the "Patch"	mattvermont	Nov 2012	#13
Excellent theory!	soleft	Nov 2012	#17
NO way....	femrap	Nov 2012	#26
these types have no loyalty	fascisthunter	Nov 2012	#90
Nor would Husted take a Federal rap for Rove in an already lost effort.	Ikonoklast	Nov 2012	#139
Hmmm!	Kber	Nov 2012	#28
anonymous...was....nt	Evasporque	Nov 2012	#34
Yes, I thought of that.	lobointexas	Nov 2012	#48
Do you - or anyone else - have a link to the video?	Whiskeytide	Nov 2012	#182
that thought occured to me too...	oldhippydude	Nov 2012	#87
That was exactly our theory on Tuesday night. n/t	dogknob	Nov 2012	#92
continuing the theory...	adamuu	Nov 2012	#180
Anonymous issues warning to Rove on Friday	Evasporque	Nov 2012	#228
The patch was bullshit conspiracy	demwing	Nov 2012	#80
Maybe something like this:	The Velveteen Ocelot	Nov 2012	#10
Makes 100% sense to me.	WinkyDink	Nov 2012	#25
Agreed, but w/one caveat ...	brett_jv	Nov 2012	#63
Sounds plausible. nt	ProudProgressiveNow	Nov 2012	#82
Works for me	Lydia Leftcoast	Nov 2012	#31
Husted has	femrap	Nov 2012	#32
I think that is exactly what happened.	hifiguy	Nov 2012	#36
I think you're right, or close, and should start writing the screenplay	Voice for Peace	Nov 2012	#43
I'm wondering if Karl is going to meet with an "accident".	GoneOffShore	Nov 2012	#61
If that's the case, Husted should watch his back	LiberalEsto	Nov 2012	#103
or maybe they just sucked	guyton	Nov 2012	#105
I absolutely loved the part when Megan Kelly got up from her seat and walked	a kennedy	Nov 2012	#11
I actually unblocked faux for the first time and watched it happen!	louis-t	Nov 2012	#18
I missed it live because I had it blocked, too!	Patiod	Nov 2012	#21
I missed it too (no TV) but the videos	beac	Nov 2012	#169
Thanks - those images never get old!	Patiod	Nov 2012	#173
the video in the first link	brettdale	Nov 2012	#230
Watched his meldown live also...	ProudProgressiveNow	Nov 2012	#85
I've watched it	femrap	Nov 2012	#33
that was a bizarre scene - she said "when we rehearsed this" as she was walking down the hall	central scrutinizer	Nov 2012	#59
Rehearsal	johnq45	Nov 2012	#78
Yeah, that was really strange	caraher	Nov 2012	#111
Yes, I saw it! Did you also see...	CoffeeCat	Nov 2012	#157
I Know. She walks down there to basically ask, "You know that extremely important decision you just	Dark n Stormy Knight	Nov 2012	#164
I've been saying for some time I thought they had a "fix" in for Ohio. Something went wrong.	OregonBlue	Nov 2012	#12
My understanding	femrap	Nov 2012	#38
Maybe the work of Anonymous should be spoken of in whispers or not at all	Voice for Peace	Nov 2012	#44
OK...I'll	femrap	Nov 2012	#49
dang, forgive me Almighty Cat.. how could I do that, I'm ashamed as all my cats are now giving me	Voice for Peace	Nov 2012	#57
And it did not matter. Because Obama won IA, CO, NV, WI, and NH.	Jennicut	Nov 2012	#14
There were Repukes saying the Willard would win Minnesota.	hifiguy	Nov 2012	#37
True....	femrap	Nov 2012	#42
+1 nt	ProudProgressiveNow	Nov 2012	#89
I just think that whatever was planned with Ohio ended up being moot--and the Ohio SoS	TwilightGardener	Nov 2012	#15
It was a staged and planned walkback of his previous optimism.	JBoy	Nov 2012	#19
This ^^	Beowulf	Nov 2012	#30
That is not what she meant	obamanut2012	Nov 2012	#154
That us what she said. I Tivoed it...	CoffeeCat	Nov 2012	#159
I agree	caraher	Nov 2012	#112
The best forensic computer scientists come from blue states	Brother Buzz	Nov 2012	#29
I do believe that Romney was convinced that they had suppressed enough of the vote to "win."	yardwork	Nov 2012	#39
Isn't there a category beyond tin foil?	Coyotl	Nov 2012	#40
Yeah. Treason.	Octafish	Nov 2012	#158
Truth is stranger than fiction	texpatriot2004	Nov 2012	#179
nope. There was a lawsuit in Ohio. A judge was watching. The Ohio election website went off the air	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#41
I remember that	femrap	Nov 2012	#45
but Husted had a judge watching him becuase Bob Fitrakis filed a lawsuit on monday morning.	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#53
That also plays in to my "chickened out" scenario.	hifiguy	Nov 2012	#62
I believe what you describe is probably exactly what happened.	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#67
+1 nt	ProudProgressiveNow	Nov 2012	#93
I jsut posted a new OP with mark Crispin's analysis and Victoria Collier's of election night in Ohio	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#119
Wow, I just had a little frisson at your malapropism. I believe you meant "Husted" and not	coalition_unwilling	Nov 2012	#128
I am reading Sy Hersh's book about	hifiguy	Nov 2012	#129
And "Segretti" means "secrets" in Italian.	Manifestor_of_Light	Nov 2012	#226
I read that	femrap	Nov 2012	#134
Do you have a link to that specific story robinlynne?	Emit	Nov 2012	#51
will find you a better link, to mark Crispin miller. give me a minute.	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#54
here you go:	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#55
Thank you so much!	Emit	Nov 2012	#60
A GREAT post, robin!	hifiguy	Nov 2012	#64
This is from Mark Crispin Miller, an Election Protection advocate. one of the best.	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#65
+1000 nt	ProudProgressiveNow	Nov 2012	#98
WOW! Thank you so much	Carolina	Nov 2012	#124
I believe that word was passed to other SOS about the machines. When I went to vote in rural	LiberalArkie	Nov 2012	#127
here you go:	leanforward	Nov 2012	#153
They projected winning results because they own the voting machines. As Bush did, to steal an	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#162
Interesting remarks about "leftist pundits"; I remember when Jerry Rubin became a stockbroker.	WinkyDink	Nov 2012	#170
In 2004, I recall the time as being around 11 p.m. I remember going downtown pissed as hell at	lonestarnot	Nov 2012	#197
Let's not forget what happened to Mike Connell.	Raksha	Nov 2012	#224
There's an article around here about how angry the federal judge was with Husted's people on Friday.	yardwork	Nov 2012	#94
When a federal judge has you under his or her	hifiguy	Nov 2012	#126
who is Kasich?	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#137
OH governor. nt	hifiguy	Nov 2012	#141
got it.	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#144
Husted is sickening. Here's the link I mentioned upthread:	yardwork	Nov 2012	#146
Wow. Federal judges do not dress down	hifiguy	Nov 2012	#149
Tagg Rmoney's company owns the OH voting machines. I guarantee you they tried to rig them.	kestrel91316	Nov 2012	#46
This is my theory "turnout was so high that the rig was inadequate"	Carni	Nov 2012	#66
Agree. Plus, the exit pollsters were watching like hawks this time.	McCamy Taylor	Nov 2012	#69
Yes!	Carni	Nov 2012	#121
That was 2008. this time it was a judge's, and public, awareness.	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#102
THIS is what I think, as well.	October	Nov 2012	#116
No, I think they were just arrogant, especially Romney.	cui bono	Nov 2012	#56
I agree, just said the same	smackd	Nov 2012	#148
Exactly! I was convinced they were about to alter the vote count . . . But the Ohio SOS abruptly	Liberal In Red State	Nov 2012	#70
That sounds very plausible	tinrobot	Nov 2012	#99
not by the AG. By a judge because of Bob Fitrakis'' lawsuit. Holder did NOTHING. election protection	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#104
Even with Ohio, Romney loses.	Ikonoklast	Nov 2012	#72
80% of American votes are counted by private corporations, just as they are in Ohio.	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#125
Oooookay, but what does that have to do with Obama winning Ohio?	Ikonoklast	Nov 2012	#140
the fix is possible all over the country right now. same as i Ohio. the same companies who "fixed' o	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#143
Not possible. They would need to 'fix' every swing state, and any state that was even close.	Ikonoklast	Nov 2012	#145
Private republican owned companies count 80% of American votes. Think about that for a minute.	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#163
They could not have "fixed" California - our SoS got rid of the bad voting machines	Merlot	Nov 2012	#155
not quite. the bad voting amchine company scans and counts the votes here in Claifornia. the same	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#161
true, but we don't have the touch screens	Merlot	Nov 2012	#198
not ours. No candidate's names are written on our ballots. just numbers.	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#201
Here's my theory	CitizenPatriot	Nov 2012	#73
Cuyahoga is a big county. I believe it always comes in last.	LisaL	Nov 2012	#215
Speaking of unhacked	donqpublic	Nov 2012	#81
If that were the case Rove would have known about it. What ever it was Rove sure looked shocked.	yourout	Nov 2012	#96
iF you recall, Rove said he was on the phone with Husted!	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#106
That is another reason I think someone undid the Hack. It's actually fricking brilliant if they did.	yourout	Nov 2012	#109
no. Read post# 97. It explains exactly what really happened. It is important for people to be aware	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#113
Husted went home early ...	dawnie51	Nov 2012	#83
He was probably escaping Rove's thugs.	tinrobot	Nov 2012	#95
we were watching	Botany	Nov 2012	#91
They got cold feet.	FamilyMan	Nov 2012	#97
exactly!!!! you get it.	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#110
They got cold feet.	leanforward	Nov 2012	#136
Everyone read post #97!!! Brilliant. n/m	TheBluestEye	Nov 2012	#166
Very good. n/t	bleever	Nov 2012	#186
Hustled realized the margin was too big	Blue4Texas	Nov 2012	#213
Bradblog reported this yesterday...and Fatarkis (sp?) will prosecute re: the patches	amborin	Nov 2012	#100
the entire state election server went down, I believe. Exactly as it happened in 2004.	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#108
What an entertaining thread....	ProudProgressiveNow	Nov 2012	#101
I wouldn't put anything past them but am so glad that this part is over	Shilo	Nov 2012	#117
It is not over...	FamilyMan	Nov 2012	#135
and that is just Ohio. Private corporations count our votes here in blue states as well. And they t	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#138
link to a thread with Mark Crispin Miller's analysis of Ohio 2012, and what happened	robinlynne	Nov 2012	#122
Inspired by that look on his face, which was so, "Remote control ... not ... working!"	DirkGently	Nov 2012	#142
Occam's Razor	smackd	Nov 2012	#147
+1	D23MIURG23	Nov 2012	#151
This is ad-hoc BS.	D23MIURG23	Nov 2012	#150
heh	RobertEarl	Nov 2012	#165
Yup, thats right.	D23MIURG23	Nov 2012	#189
I think it works without needing to be literally true	DirkGently	Nov 2012	#187
I'm specifically interested in the vote hacking accusation, because it is unsubstantiated.	D23MIURG23	Nov 2012	#191
"You mad, bro? We told you we were coming."	Zorra	Nov 2012	#152
That's crazy talk	RomneyLies	Nov 2012	#168
because that never happened before	musette_sf	Nov 2012	#177
Yes, because it never happened before	RomneyLies	Nov 2012	#178
that random leap of blatant false equivalency	musette_sf	Nov 2012	#181
And as is always the case for the conspiracy theorists	RomneyLies	Nov 2012	#183
and so your best defense	musette_sf	Nov 2012	#184
There is no false equivalency	RomneyLies	Nov 2012	#185
Your belief in our government's purity is touching.	WinkyDink	Nov 2012	#223
You belief in long discredited conspiracy theories is disturbing.	RomneyLies	Nov 2012	#225
You win the "Pristine Bullet Award." Or would you prefer the "Secret Government Syphilis Testing on	WinkyDink	Nov 2012	#227
Its only a false equivalency if the vote flipping conspiracy is resting on better evidence.	D23MIURG23	Nov 2012	#192
There's more than just "analysis" as evidence	Tsiyu	Nov 2012	#218
OK, then where is it?	D23MIURG23	Nov 2012	#220
Okay n/t	Tsiyu	Nov 2012	#231
Thats what I thought; all you have are empty assertions. n/t	D23MIURG23	Nov 2012	#232
+1	D23MIURG23	Nov 2012	#190
I think you are on to something.	Odin2005	Nov 2012	#172
Anonymous?	AllyCat	Nov 2012	#174
In the movie version...	ThoughtCriminal	Nov 2012	#188
In the video of the meltdown, he specifically mentioned Hamilton County	Samantha	Nov 2012	#199
This message was self-deleted by its author	LisaL	Nov 2012	#202
Obama actually won Hamilton county.	LisaL	Nov 2012	#205
It was said pretty often before the election whoever won Hamilton County would win Ohio	Samantha	Nov 2012	#210
Not tin foil.	elleng	Nov 2012	#214
What I find delicious is that even though we may not know exactly what happened	libdem4life	Nov 2012	#216

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