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bvar22

(39,909 posts)
18. Excellent analysis.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:41 PM
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Agreed jollyreaper2112 Nov 2012 #1
Bravo! ohiosmith Nov 2012 #2
+1 Snotcicles Nov 2012 #3
Of course we all need to realize the limitations of the Presidency groundloop Nov 2012 #4
Most of the power was unused in the first term BlueStreak Nov 2012 #6
Excellent analysis. bvar22 Nov 2012 #18
I agree it will look great okieinpain Nov 2012 #59
you're right, the president is powerless. the democrats have the presidency & the senate, but HiPointDem Nov 2012 #62
Unions understand the need to act on principle for hte long term good BlueStreak Nov 2012 #73
shoulda worked a little bit harder to give him a Congress hfojvt Nov 2012 #5
THANK YOU!!! uGH...the OP's post annoys me. n/t vaberella Nov 2012 #9
Republicans lost seats in Congress. They are in no position to call the shots. We have sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #19
Exactly. nt laundry_queen Nov 2012 #20
The bat shit crazy wing (tea baggers) do not care, PERIOD krawhitham Nov 2012 #42
The worst of them just got thrown out of Congress. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #45
Ummm.... llmart Nov 2012 #72
The Republicans still have a commanding majority in the House Art_from_Ark Nov 2012 #90
Well Dinos can be dealt with by the Party Leadership. They were not in the past because sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #91
I hear what you're saying, Sabrina Art_from_Ark Nov 2012 #92
I can't agree more Glitterati Nov 2012 #7
What are you talking about? The house is ruled by the GOP. vaberella Nov 2012 #8
Trust me there are ways to make this happen LynneSin Nov 2012 #11
Yeah you have to give something to get something krawhitham Nov 2012 #43
Yeah, give and take...which means compromising. End of story. n/t vaberella Nov 2012 #56
And the House was firmly Democratic when Reagan claimed his Mandate... Junkdrawer Nov 2012 #12
Yeah...but the problem with this is that Dems are well known to compromise. vaberella Nov 2012 #58
being "well known to compromise" doesn't mean you *have to* compromise, it just means you do. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #63
And then we enter a circular conversation. vaberella Nov 2012 #85
"getting things done" is not always a virtue. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #86
The case of the unwanted Mandate..... Junkdrawer Nov 2012 #10
The Republican agenda is to do absolutely nothing. JoePhilly Nov 2012 #14
Exactly. It's awkward trying to convince the country rudycantfail Nov 2012 #55
And please tell me how he can just ignore the House nobodyspecial Nov 2012 #13
Didn't Clinton have the same problem? If so arthritisR_US Nov 2012 #15
No, not THAT playbook. bvar22 Nov 2012 #16
In his second term... ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #17
He needs the GOP House to approve bills. Remember? Except for some exec. order things Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #21
When will our winning actually mean something? Why do we work so hard to win when sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #22
We have MORE power now than last 4 yrs. But it's not our fault that the House gets a vote. Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #23
Oh please, this is getting really tired. The president has enormous power. I can assure you if sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #24
No. The Senate/Harry Reid stopped PLENTY of bills from passing these past 4 years. Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #25
Well, your plea might be valid if we had an imperial presidency. You do know.... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #26
+1 treestar Nov 2012 #27
Exactly. Whatever happened to lobbying Congress? Congress is "The People's House". Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #32
Um, what? MFrohike Nov 2012 #44
Jill, is that you? Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #46
A protip for you, good sir (or madam) MFrohike Nov 2012 #51
Excellent post, thank you! n/t sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #47
The voters do, not OWS treestar Nov 2012 #67
I think we had a half year in civics treestar Nov 2012 #66
How predictable. woo me with science Nov 2012 #29
And how many votes did that liberal lioness, Jill Stein, get? Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #30
Such nastiness, during what should be a time of joy. woo me with science Nov 2012 #35
The "poison" was already here, long before I arrived. And you still didn't answer the question. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #40
How many do you expect when she is shut out of the media, debates, etc.? Bonobo Nov 2012 #52
I heard her on NPR, and soon learned why she was "shut out". No cognitive problems here. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #57
I guess all 3rd party candidates have valid reasons for being shut out, huh? nt Bonobo Nov 2012 #60
I'm a Democrat. I could give a fuck about 3rd parties. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #74
You ducked the question because you lost the argument. Bonobo Nov 2012 #75
Your "question" was nonsensical as is this entire exchange. I just followed your lead. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #78
There were 14 people running for President treestar Nov 2012 #68
You can't get things passed if you don't put it out there and TRY! LynneSin Nov 2012 #34
We're all hoping he can get things done. However, he still faces the same Congressional Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #39
Well then here's a thought... MessiahRp Nov 2012 #61
Good plan treestar Nov 2012 #70
Exactly. And that is what we are here for. And we will be doing what it is our duty to do sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #50
The whole idea is that representatives cannot be forced to vote treestar Nov 2012 #69
A less RW congress might help CakeGrrl Nov 2012 #28
Well said! WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2012 #31
The Third Way is predictable as mud, aren't they? woo me with science Nov 2012 #33
i don't think he ever catered to Republicans because of re-election, he came out in support of same JI7 Nov 2012 #36
AND PLEASE... FieryLocks Nov 2012 #37
It would be wonderful if Obama listened to his liberal base quinnox Nov 2012 #38
BS, sorry it is krawhitham Nov 2012 #41
Great response DemocratsForProgress Nov 2012 #54
Oh, please. The obverse also holds true. The President now holds almost coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #65
Hear hear for the post and the sentiment therein: woo me with science Nov 2012 #48
That is why this "fiscal cliff" issue is so important. kentuck Nov 2012 #49
I don't want him to have to give in again to the GOP either, but... CheapShotArtist Nov 2012 #53
The trick is to try some proposals so popular, GOP will shoot themselves in foot if they oppose yurbud Nov 2012 #79
I hope he continues doing what he's been doing. NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #64
Make the grand bargain with the GOP Beowulf Nov 2012 #71
Obama has the capitol, the backing of the people and the ability Autumn Nov 2012 #76
You realize the repugs control the House michigandem58 Nov 2012 #77
OMG Really???!!!! LynneSin Nov 2012 #80
"PBO will have to cater" argiel1234 Nov 2012 #83
its pretty disgusting argiel1234 Nov 2012 #81
Or assume that I don't know how a bill is passed LynneSin Nov 2012 #82
Kick woo me with science Nov 2012 #84
To those of you who have shot down what I've said please read LynneSin Nov 2012 #87
kr. as far as i'm concerned, the folks saying it's impossible because of the bad bad HiPointDem Nov 2012 #89
Dear PRESIDENT Obama, progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #88
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