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MADem

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19. I stand corrected--I was under the impression that his crimes were against the state.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:38 PM
Nov 2012

That said, I wouldn't hold my breath that he'd pardon the guy soon. Why? He can't.

The rules for federal pardons make that problematic. The guy still has lots of time to serve; pardons usually come AFTER the sentence is completed (or, in the unusual case of Marc Rich, before the Feds could even get their hands on the guy to drag him to the bar of justice). Once they are in the pokey, though, they're stuck there unless their sentence is commuted. Pardons come after they are released and back in society.

Apparently, though (something none of us bothered to check on in weighing in on this thread) he's not even asking for a pardon--he's asking for a commutation of his sentence.

I don't think that will happen any time soon, either--maybe in four years.

Siegelman hopes his commutation request will stand out in Washington because there was never an allegation that he pocketed any of the $500,000 and because of disagreements between different courts over when a campaign contribution becomes a bribe.

...Petitioning for a presidential commutation is more difficult than getting a presidential pardon. The Justice Department reports Obama has approved 22 pardons out of 1,143 requests. But pardons can't be issued until after a federal prisoner has completed a sentence, which wouldn't do Siegelman any good at this point.
http://enewscourier.com/statenews/x946181671/Siegelman-has-long-odds-on-Obama-commutation/print

There are no appeals to commutation requests. If the appeal is turned down, that's it. No second bites of the apple.

Look, I feel badly for the guy--I think he got a raw deal. That said, I don't see him getting out of jail any time soon. I don't see Obama commuting his sentence early in his second term, either.

Had his lawyers negotiated some kind of house arrest arrangement where he agreed to wear an ankle bracelet during all that time he was out on appeal, he'd be done with this shit. THEN he could be asking Obama for one of those pardons.

Immediately!! k&r zazen Nov 2012 #1
Or sooner. nm rhett o rick Nov 2012 #18
Yes. GentryDixon Nov 2012 #2
absolutely d_r Nov 2012 #3
yes JI7 Nov 2012 #4
What federal crime is he accused of? MADem Nov 2012 #5
The POTUS has the standing to pardon anyone for anything. He should pardon IMMEDIATELY Vincardog Nov 2012 #8
No he doesn't. He's not the King. MADem Nov 2012 #12
Bullshit. The only limitation is no pardon for "cases of impeachment" how else can you explain all Vincardog Nov 2012 #14
Siegelman was convicted in a federal court starroute Nov 2012 #17
I stand corrected--I was under the impression that his crimes were against the state. MADem Nov 2012 #19
He was convicted in federal court - read this... ramblin_dave Nov 2012 #16
Yes--I was under the mistaken impression that MADem Nov 2012 #22
Yes!!!!! lucca18 Nov 2012 #6
Yes. ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #7
Perhaps someone should start a petition on the white house site to this effect. n/t Blue Meany Nov 2012 #9
Personally I believe he should have done it Jan 21 2009. THIS guy is completely innocent. diabeticman Nov 2012 #10
Do these sound like the words of an innocent man? cherokeeprogressive Nov 2012 #21
IF you are truly aware of the whole story "THOSE WORDS" are said in hopes it would appease the BUSH diabeticman Nov 2012 #24
Oh, good god. Hissyspit Nov 2012 #26
It's clear you are not familiar with this case. This is, even according to dozens of Republicans sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #27
now....won't take much capital. NOW Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #11
Yes, and NOT on a Friday afternoon Brother Buzz Nov 2012 #13
Yes!! SalviaBlue Nov 2012 #15
No, the DOJ should do what they did with Sen. Stevens' trial when they discovered sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #20
That sounds like a much more plausible course of action, and one more likely MADem Nov 2012 #23
+10000000000000000 diabeticman Nov 2012 #25
immediately Jake2413 Nov 2012 #28
Obama could also commute the sentence like bush did to scooter libby graham4anything Nov 2012 #29
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