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In the discussion thread: James Fallows: Why You Cannot Say You 'Like' Firing People - & why you can't un-ring that bell [View all]

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Mon Jan 16, 2012, 08:27 AM

karynnj (46,668 posts)

52. I agree 100% - and the Republicans have long tried to diminish valid

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criticism of themselves by calling it "swiftboating".

But, the comparison here was to the more politics as usual "he voted for it before he voted against it" smear. That was nothing like the swiftboats and is used constantly - though (sadly) few other candidates gave the opposition the sound bite the usually extremely articulate and careful Kerry did. That - and a media that rarely made an effort to allow him to respond to anything - made the line cringe worthy to hear. ( The sad thing is that this was probably the only real gaffe (if it can be called that) Kerry made speaking 12 hours a day for months!)

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54 replies	Author	Time	Post
James Fallows: Why You Cannot Say You 'Like' Firing People - & why you can't un-ring that bell [View all]	Pirate Smile	Jan 2012	OP
!!!gnid gnid gnid	ThoughtCriminal	Jan 2012	#1
What does that mean?	Pirate Smile	Jan 2012	#2
Read it backwards	ThoughtCriminal	Jan 2012	#5
Unringing the bell.	tclambert	Jan 2012	#13
Thanks	Pirate Smile	Jan 2012	#23
I can see the commercial now	izquierdista	Jan 2012	#3
and graphics or voice-overs saying just how many people lost their jobs at these companies while,	Pirate Smile	Jan 2012	#6
Don't forget...grainy black & white filter...	brooklynite	Jan 2012	#16
Willard is a champion of the working man.	Octafish	Jan 2012	#4
Althought I actually understand the point he was trying to make	rufus dog	Jan 2012	#7
The same reason you can't go back on strapping your dog to the roof of your car	coalition_unwilling	Jan 2012	#8
Beggin yer pardon but where in DSM IV (or in DSM IV-TR) is sociopathy defined?	Jackpine Radical	Jan 2012	#25
I defer to you and wish to commend your meticulous attention to detail. I do want to say that	coalition_unwilling	Jan 2012	#38
Let's just say that, as a criminal/forensic psychologist, I know a lot more than I ever wanted to	Jackpine Radical	Jan 2012	#39
Only a sociopath would say he likes firing people.	Ikonoklast	Jan 2012	#9
Reminds me of Bush	The Wizard	Jan 2012	#17
to be fair, he said he liked being ABLE to fire people	thesquanderer	Jan 2012	#20
Po-tay-to, po-tah-to.	mac56	Jan 2012	#24
Yes, I think it's different	thesquanderer	Jan 2012	#28
Sooo... enjoying "having the authority" to ruin someone's life is, somehow, not the same	mac56	Jan 2012	#34
The benefit of having a power you may actually have no desire to actually use...	thesquanderer	Jan 2012	#40
How long have you been a contortionist?	mac56	Jan 2012	#41
You still find it convoluted?	thesquanderer	Jan 2012	#42
"You don't have to enjoy firing people to enjoy the benefit of knowing that your employees	mac56	Jan 2012	#43
I heard that!	lonestarnot	Jan 2012	#10
There must have been a few bells ringing for Fallows...	pinboy3niner	Jan 2012	#11
While his contemporaries	The Wizard	Jan 2012	#18
And the bastard has the gall to speak of the sacrifices of those who serve:	pinboy3niner	Jan 2012	#27
Love the sentiment, but help me out here:	Orrex	Jan 2012	#12
Someone with a little conscience might feel that way.	tclambert	Jan 2012	#14
I concur with your final statement re: puppy kicking, but...	Orrex	Jan 2012	#21
You're right. And if you really feel bad about firing someone, you hire George Clooney to do it.	tclambert	Jan 2012	#29
I once had to lay people off. It was horrible but	PA Democrat	Jan 2012	#19
+!	Orrex	Jan 2012	#22
People who fire others rarely go into clinical depression, or kill themselves. That's all.	saras	Jan 2012	#26
+9000 for truth!	Zalatix	Jan 2012	#50
Why does anyone think Romney has anything in common with the people?	lunatica	Jan 2012	#15
Perhaps he asked his Personal Assistant what it's like to be a normal person.	tclambert	Jan 2012	#30
Left out the fact that you can't say it because a lot of people KNOW you can be fired for	patrice	Jan 2012	#31
I cant believe people are making a big deal of this	SnakeEyes	Jan 2012	#32
Nope No Sale Snake	HangOnKids	Jan 2012	#33
I don't see how	SnakeEyes	Jan 2012	#45
It is a big deal.	mac56	Jan 2012	#35
Due to his education, we can assume the man, unlike lots of other people, is NOT word-deprived.	patrice	Jan 2012	#36
It's disingenous to take it out of context	SnakeEyes	Jan 2012	#44
Even more out of touch is that many of us have absolutely no health care provider at all	riderinthestorm	Jan 2012	#37
Two words	whistler162	Jan 2012	#46
+ 1000	mac56	Jan 2012	#53
K & R	Scurrilous	Jan 2012	#47
What Crap, there is no comparison to what Kerry said	JI7	Jan 2012	#48
The point was that the Kerry statement - minus its context -	karynnj	Jan 2012	#49
yes, but my problem is by now most know the attacks against Kerry were unfair, just wrong	JI7	Jan 2012	#51
I agree 100% - and the Republicans have long tried to diminish valid	karynnj	Jan 2012	#52
Appealing to his mean, sociopathic base with that statement.	matmar	Jan 2012	#54

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