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Liberal1975

(87 posts)
51. I agree
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 02:39 PM
Oct 2012

I agree that MSNBC is actual news while Fox is a propaganda machine. But it has 6 solid hours of liberal opinion shows every night, not a few. Look, I'm not trying to equate one with the other I watch MSNBC every night and I sometimes feel like maybe I don't have a clear picture of what is going on since the shows I watch have an on obvious spin for Obama. And before you jump down my throat I am fully aware that what they report is actually true whereas Fox is just a factory of bullshit but I still come away with a feeling that I just watched six hours of programming that I mostly agree with, that made feel super positive about our chances in this thing etc, etc. That essntially the Fox viewer and I live in completely different worlds and the information I am getting is not information they are getting. When there is no baseline for reality no then lying is something you can get away with. Seven years from now are we still going to have Fox viewers who believe that the work requirement was watered down under Obama, that he doubled the deficit, that he is actually a Muslim Marxsist hell bent on the destruction of America? Probably. These are the same people who still believe that WMDs were found in Iraq. When there is no common ground on the FACTS any longer then what is left? Just two streams of contradicting information and a beleaguered electorate who throws up their hands and says "Fuck it. They all lie." and electorate that is more polarized and a country that cannot make decisions for its common good together. "A House divided against itself cannot stand" and I'm the same way now. In 2000 I might have voted for McCain (before he proved his "Maverick" independence was a lie) over Gore, now I won't vote for any Republican for any reason under any circumstance. Ever. It just seems that's not healthy for our democracy that I feel this way and that conservatives feel exactly the same way in reverse. But I apologize it was not my intent to equate Rachel Maddow who deals in truth (albeit with an obvious preference towards liberalism) to Glenn Beck who just lies through his teeth. Just trying to understand how a politician can lie as much as Romney has and still have a chance. Either it's because America's enduring racism won't allow this race to be anything but close or political dialogue has disappeared, since I'm not listening to their bullshit and they're not listening to my facts.

Ugggh everything is so contrived. n/t Horse with no Name Oct 2012 #1
contrived kardonb Oct 2012 #29
Apparently Rmoney has already started his first war. FightingIrish Oct 2012 #2
Are you fucking kidding me? NYC Liberal Oct 2012 #3
Ditto your post superpatriotman Oct 2012 #53
Just think a moment what a Romney administration would be like deutsey Oct 2012 #4
I would say it's unbelievable... MynameisBlarney Oct 2012 #5
I wonder how much Blood Money he has... jorno67 Oct 2012 #6
He is the one that writes a big fat check while the camera is on Horse with no Name Oct 2012 #8
Christ, he couldn't even do that! NICO9000 Oct 2012 #34
These guys are really vile human beings BlueStreak Oct 2012 #7
This is just gross. faithfulcitizen Oct 2012 #9
Unbelievably stupid!!!! Tennessee Gal Oct 2012 #10
"A 10-minute video about Romney's life"??? aletier_v Oct 2012 #11
What a Fucking Nightmare that would have been? trailmonkee Oct 2012 #13
What a Fucking Nightmare that would have been? AlbertCat Oct 2012 #43
I'd be trying to gouge my eyes out with a donated Slim Jim. nt NickB79 Oct 2012 #37
Practical, really. Canuckistanian Oct 2012 #12
Good Lord, it's even worse than I thought aint_no_life_nowhere Oct 2012 #14
Forget about a birth certificate. Ganja Ninja Oct 2012 #15
He needs to prove he's a real person AlbertCat Oct 2012 #44
Just when I think Mitt's hit the lowest road he finds an even lower one Blue Owl Oct 2012 #16
Actually, I'm NOT surprised. progressoid Oct 2012 #17
Mall*Wart! OMG, it just doesn't get any more idiotic than this, right? This is the bottom, right? Coyotl Oct 2012 #18
im sick of these people... occupymybrain Oct 2012 #19
Fuck me, rMoney has that Dolores Umbridge smirk on his face again! n/t backscatter712 Oct 2012 #20
"Just grab something" LOL! reformist2 Oct 2012 #21
I was wondering how "average" people were able to shrink wrap all those trays of cans, etc. George II Oct 2012 #22
I KNEW it! I saw far too many duplicates, and so many dixie cups (gotta enrich the Kochs ya know) progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #23
who didn't see this coming mil_5529dem Oct 2012 #24
Honestly tufnel Oct 2012 #25
Appearances are everything in Mormonism siligut Oct 2012 #41
Romney gives China money for Sandy relief! SCVDem Oct 2012 #26
Why does this not surprise me? AsahinaKimi Oct 2012 #27
To add insult to injury, Rmoney bought the stuff at Sprawl-Mart. KamaAina Oct 2012 #28
Shouldn't Surprise anyone... Liberal1975 Oct 2012 #30
conservatives watching Fox and all liberals watching MSNBC each side has access to only one stream.. AlbertCat Oct 2012 #46
I agree Liberal1975 Oct 2012 #51
What's next? A tailhook landing and a flight suit? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #31
Hmmm Sophiegirl Oct 2012 #32
Do you mean the sex scandal? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #40
Yep Sophiegirl Oct 2012 #45
Then they go the other way and claim they're lesbians.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #49
True 'nuff! Sophiegirl Oct 2012 #52
A precise parallel to Ryan washing a clean pot in a staged photo op. tblue37 Oct 2012 #33
NPR this morning - Diane Rehm - one of the commentators said ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 #35
What brilliant planning! AndyA Oct 2012 #36
I can't say it enough green917 Oct 2012 #38
Why is anyone really shocked? fingrinn Oct 2012 #39
This is not a campaign... it's a pilot for Comedy Channel's new reality show. HooptieWagon Oct 2012 #42
Romney the Tin (Can) Man...no heart, but lots of pork 'n beans n/t CorBlimeyGuvnor Oct 2012 #47
This isn't going to matter. No one's paying attention Bertha Venation Oct 2012 #48
NO!!?! REALLY??? LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #50
His shallowness is absolutely stunning! CrispyQ Nov 2012 #54
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