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In reply to the discussion: Since Free Traders believe that America should lower its standard of living to help the third world [View all]treestar
(82,383 posts)155. If the world is dependent on our economy
Which you've hardly proven, that only proves my point. Why should it be? That's pretty unfair to the rest of the world, isn't it?
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Since Free Traders believe that America should lower its standard of living to help the third world [View all]
Zalatix
Jan 2012
OP
and Administrations that "Cook the Books" to say it doesn't harm Americans / America
FreakinDJ
Jan 2012
#29
I actually bought a little manual clothes washer at the thrift store I work at.
Odin2005
Jan 2012
#57
I used one of those for a few years. Worked a treat. I gave it to a relative living in NYC in a
MADem
Jan 2012
#80
I've never understood how any working class person could vote repug. One would think it difficult
SammyWinstonJack
Jan 2012
#21
Shouldn't they start the ball rolling by giving their money to the 1% in other countries?
eppur_se_muova
Jan 2012
#5
I think that they did with the bank bailouts. Some for our 1%. Some for the foreign countries' 1%.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jan 2012
#82
When did Washington become the capital of the world, as opposed to the capital of the U.S.?
Laelth
Jan 2012
#20
Free trade does not improve the quality of life of people living in other countries
JDPriestly
Jan 2012
#33
Tariffs. China uses them against us, we have a right to use them against China.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#112
Let's look at what you previously said, and my questions that you previously avoided
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#122
Then you do not understand the nature of our trade deficit. Allow me to explain, with CITES.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#154
No... your disgusting insult is that we as Progressives should curtail American standards of living
fascisthunter
Jan 2012
#49
What about OUR working class? What about us? Why should we go unemployed for this?
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#90
We shouldn't. If trade policy is done correctly and fairly is should benefit both sides.
DCBob
Jan 2012
#97
Dear free traders, here are more Americans losing jobs to make the rest of the world a better place.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#16
You see we are makeing their lives better. Just think about those happy people at Foxcon.
wandy
Jan 2012
#24
It is interesting how folks paint essentially slavery as altruistic and "progressive"
TheKentuckian
Jan 2012
#78
You know, when ever a "centrist" or right-winger says that a certain policy will
Lydia Leftcoast
Jan 2012
#174
If anyone has forgotten, maybe one of them will remind us by repeating what they said.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jan 2012
#85
no it doesn't.... his point of view on this ISN'T progressive... it is flawed
fascisthunter
Jan 2012
#52
Krugman has begun to change his mind on outsourcing, so you're wrong on this, too.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#92
"Krugman's views on free trade have provoked considerable ire from the anti-globalism movement".
Nye Bevan
Jan 2012
#66
Krugman called for a 25% tariff on China. I posted the cite already. That's NOT free trade.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#125
Free Traders are never the Ones lowering their own Standards of living for the World
fascisthunter
Jan 2012
#46
The dirty little secret you NEVER hear uttered by the media or pols. n/t
Populist_Prole
Jan 2012
#53
No, because that's an ad hominem argument. But, if that is their position, even a broken clock
AnotherMcIntosh
Jan 2012
#86
Repubs would hate that idea (the mythical North American Union is a mainstay of bircher fears).
pampango
Jan 2012
#75
There is NO "free trade". World trade is controlled by a cabal of multinational corporations.
AdHocSolver
Jan 2012
#87
that would all be a valid point if "globalization" was improving the quality of life in the third
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2012
#99
it is dishonest to represent the majority as benefiting when that is clearly not the case
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2012
#102
I would suggest taking a trip off the beaten path a little bit and away from the tourist belt
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2012
#104
I certainly do get off the beaten path.. I have relatives in the province far from any major city.
DCBob
Jan 2012
#105
Yes, I think thats correct but from what I understand there are always new contracts.
DCBob
Jan 2012
#109
While there is a "rising middle class" in China and India, the poor are worse off than ever
Lydia Leftcoast
Jan 2012
#167
Yes, that is true also in the Philippines. Prices of almost everything are going up.
DCBob
Jan 2012
#177
Um, there's no proper way to send American jobs out of the country. None. Zero. Nada.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#186
I suspect the growing middle classes of China and India would probably disagree with you
Spider Jerusalem
Jan 2012
#119
The vast majority of Indians and Chinese are not participating in it except as victims of
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2012
#126
It has everything to do with the topic at hand and yes, you absolutely do know that.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#133
Food crises, pollution, slave labor & child labor are acceptable because "welcome to globalization"?
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#138
The top 1-5% of China and India are buying cars - made by slaves and high pollution
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#123
There is a reason why you won't respond to this... my response is even MORE uncomfortable.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#127
Your argument has so many errors, where to start! And can you back up anything with cites? Anything?
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#145
We're supposed to be glad because our poor are "better off" than those in India?
Lydia Leftcoast
Jan 2012
#170
I have actual experience working blue collar jobs and volunteering in programs
Lydia Leftcoast
Jan 2012
#173
That's what I want to get into more of... community organizing to create jobs, to be specific.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#175
I'm not a one-worlder. I don't want China having a vote on my country's reproductive rights.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#144
These homeless students are making sacrifices to help the poor in other nations...
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#124
Many unemployed will never be able to get another job - thank outsourcing for this!
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#148
I imagine many people rationalize that imaginary, wholly made-up red and black lines...
LanternWaste
Jan 2012
#156
I showed you a lot of America's poor and jobless in this thread. Why don't you tell them that?
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#159
Building tariff walls didn't help any country in the 1930's (except Germany but that had more to do
pampango
Jan 2012
#161
There is an example of a nation using tariffs to become rich. And the Smoot-Hawley story is a myth.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#162
Next? Smoot-Hawley was bad republican policy. That much is not a myth. FDR knew it.
pampango
Jan 2012
#163
Sounds like you would have been fighting FDR when he was dismantling tariffs in the 1930's and
pampango
Jan 2012
#178
I see a lot of affluent Americans who have never met a real poor American or
Lydia Leftcoast
Jan 2012
#172
Look at this very thread. Free Traders FEAR to talk about the poor in Western nations.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#182