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NoOneMan

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41. A straw man is a misrepresentation of an opponent's position

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 03:08 AM

Oct 2012

I am not attacking your position, or a misrepresentation of it. You are attacking mine.

I am typing to try and explain this science to you. I think it is courteous to tell people the truth about energy production, EROEI and how it all relates to growth. This, along with global warming (which it is related to), will fast become the central issues of the 21st century.

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37 Facts About How Cruel This Economy Has Been To Millions Of Desperate American Families [View all] RepublicansRZombies Oct 2012 OP

what, Some conservatives are understanding cause and effect?????? hollysmom Oct 2012 #1

how can this truth be so obvious, even to someone like him RepublicansRZombies Oct 2012 #2

Moreover, WHAT have THEY done about it? Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2012 #7

It's like they suggest we all take up yoga. closeupready Oct 2012 #10

Or just indict them in the ICC! Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2012 #11

Du rec. Nt xchrom Oct 2012 #3

And yet so many have no clue what it's like. JNelson6563 Oct 2012 #4

Like many other situations, you can't really understand it until you've lived it. Arkansas Granny Oct 2012 #9

Mom, is that you? Art_from_Ark Oct 2012 #43

No, they sure don't. GoCubsGo Oct 2012 #14

never been without insurance for long hollysmom Oct 2012 #27

K&R n/t OneGrassRoot Oct 2012 #5

Cheap, plentiful energy is the real key. NoOneMan Oct 2012 #6

"The party is over" Why? Corporations and Bankers are doing better than ever. RepublicansRZombies Oct 2012 #13

Because there is finite energy NoOneMan Oct 2012 #15

oh, baloney. first, there never was a 'party' except for the rich. second, they're still partying. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #19

It means per capita wealth will decline NoOneMan Oct 2012 #20

not any time soon. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #21

Its already happening NoOneMan Oct 2012 #22

at the moment, known supplies of oil are increasing. which means that 'wealth' by your definition HiPointDem Oct 2012 #30

As in my example, the apple hole is infinitely deep NoOneMan Oct 2012 #33

it may be deep or shallow; my point is that it's not happening at present. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #34

I believe this illustrates exactly how bad our problem is NoOneMan Oct 2012 #36

all that typing to combat your own straw men. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #37

A straw man is a misrepresentation of an opponent's position NoOneMan Oct 2012 #41

"A straw man is a misrepresentation of an opponent's position" = yes. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #42

It really hit home for me a couple years ago when it dawned on me how many closed stores I walked... ieoeja Oct 2012 #8

It's the Main Street economy. This is why we are still not entirely sure that the President Egalitarian Thug Oct 2012 #12

The problem is the bailouts and stimulus saved corporations and banks, not Main Street. davidn3600 Oct 2012 #16

Exactly. And it's not like we didn't predict this four years ago. Egalitarian Thug Oct 2012 #17

The American People Buy Into The Bullshit That America Is "Broke" Yavin4 Oct 2012 #18

In pictorial form: coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #38

"The economy" is cruel..."no matter what our politicians have tried." woo me with science Oct 2012 #23

+1,000,000,000 x 1,000,000,000 - Well put and definitely coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #39

"When I say I believe in a square deal I do not mean to give every man the best hand. trouble.smith Oct 2012 #44

kick RepublicansRZombies Oct 2012 #24

537 Votes in Florida and 5-4 in the Supreme Court gulliver Oct 2012 #25

K&R woo me with science Oct 2012 #26

The Cheney/Bush economic legacy. (nt) Kurovski Oct 2012 #28

Good stuff. Thanks for posting. nt ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #29

I'm in that "40%".. SomethingFishy Oct 2012 #31

Sorry to read this. It is far too common a story. n/t Egalitarian Thug Oct 2012 #32

that sucks!! RepublicansRZombies Oct 2012 #35

Emphatic K&R! - n/t coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #40