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Response to HiPointDem (Reply #17)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:00 PM

20. "South grew half to three-quarters of the corn crop harvested between 1840 and 1860"?


1. First year of Civil War starvation was rampant in the South because they grew so little food crops.

2. The South famously predicted Europe would join them because of "King Cotton". Unfortunately for them Europe had a bad crop growth that year and needed corn from the North far more than they needed cotton. "King Corn" defeated "King Cotton".

Given that your source got this fact so completely, totally wrong, I can not put much stock in anything it says.


The American Civil War joins Genghis Khan, Napolean's Retreat from Russia, and the Nazi Retreat from Moscow as examples where most histories were written by the loser, not the winner. The problem with histories written by the loser is that they get it wrong. The loser, after all, probably wouldn't have lost had they really understood what was going on.

Even if the loser figures it out after the fact, how many autobiographies do you see written by military Generals saying, "I screwed it up"? They are almost always self serving, and Southern Generals were no exception.


Genghis Khan - most of his wars were in response to outrages by the other side; Chinese historians claimed otherwise.

Napolean .. Russia - defeated outside of Moscow in pitched battle and began retreat before the first snowflake fell; claimed he only retreated because of winter.

Nazis .. Moscow - being pushed back by the 1st ten of over 100 divisions en route on the Siberian Railroad before snow shut down the fighting. German historians honestly believed the push back was a Battle of the Bulge type of scenario that was about to collapse.

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