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noiretextatique

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41. i don't see any definition of "factual" that means you just make shit up
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:16 PM
Oct 2012

1.

of, relating to, or characterized by facts



2.

of the nature of fact; real; actual

there is nothing "factual" about the claim that Obama is a Muslim. that claim is not related to or charaterized by any actual fact; it is not real or based on anything actual or real. it's bullshit, not factual.

It is a fact that some believe he is a Muslim. Therefore the idea he is Muslim is factual. librechik Oct 2012 #1
+1 ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #39
Distinction between "factual" and "statement of fact" lolly Oct 2012 #2
No. Both of those imply a factual quality. This is simply an ASSERTION by Mr. Williams Jr. BlueStreak Oct 2012 #8
Yes, they should ended the sentence with the phrase - but it is not factual. The Wielding Truth Oct 2012 #17
Unf#%@king believable. SalviaBlue Oct 2012 #3
They are also bigots it seems. What would be the problem with a politician sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #12
You know, you are right. SalviaBlue Oct 2012 #38
What does it tell you when PolitiFACT doesn't know the difference between an ASSERTION and a FACT? BlueStreak Oct 2012 #4
Here is the link. skinnertest Oct 2012 #5
ideas are not equal to facts Voice for Peace Oct 2012 #6
Ask them if the "idea" that Mitt is "not a true Christian" is factual ... if so, they should JoePhilly Oct 2012 #7
Both are ASSERTIONS with no basis in fact. BlueStreak Oct 2012 #11
Actually ... there is some "fact" to the Mormon issue. JoePhilly Oct 2012 #37
Jackpine, please sent this exchange to Rachel Maddow's team. "Politifact" and their "fact checking" myrna minx Oct 2012 #9
I was about to suggest the same thing Canuckistanian Oct 2012 #19
And so what if he is? Do we need publications like this feeding the rabid bigotry sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #10
because an openly Muslim person could never be elected nationally banned from Kos Oct 2012 #13
It only fails because people are so fearful of speaking the truth. sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #16
I agree with your sentiment. Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #14
Rec. progressoid Oct 2012 #15
I suspect Obama's thinking is more science-based than faith-based. Regardless .... Scuba Oct 2012 #18
Get a DICTIONARY. It will save embarrassment and time emailing people cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #20
I disagree. Factual means pertaining to facts. cui bono Oct 2012 #24
Meaning is not derived from whatever *you* think words mean cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #28
Just as you saying what *you* think it means doesn't change the fact of what it means. cui bono Oct 2012 #31
Since you cannot even accept what factual means there is nothing to talk about. cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #33
You won this subthread Turborama Oct 2012 #60
YAY!!! cui bono Oct 2012 #63
That would be "verifiable," "empirical," "testable" in my dialect of English. Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #26
Correct. So what is your point? cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #29
The point is that you are wrong and have been proven wrong. You should just stop. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2012 #53
Welcome to DU, and buy yourself a fucking dictionary cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #57
You can't consider yourself seriously interested in facts if you can read my post about the synonyms Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2012 #61
Google definition: DevonRex Oct 2012 #32
And that is why nobody uses Google dictionary. It is practically a slang dictionary. cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #35
Thesaurus definition for "factual": real, correct Synonyms: absolute, accurate, actual, Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2012 #51
the problem is, "factual" has both meanings 0rganism Oct 2012 #64
The idea that Obama is a Muslim is NOT factual. cui bono Oct 2012 #21
The primary definition of "factual" is not "true." cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #23
I responded to your previous post if you want to continure there in one place. n/t cui bono Oct 2012 #25
Webster Dictionary disagrees Oilwellian Oct 2012 #44
Oh FFS... how low will people go? cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #58
As others have pointed out . . . markpkessinger Oct 2012 #48
Yes, that's what the majority of American English speakers will interpret it to mean. And, as I Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2012 #52
No, in this case the ultimate determinant is context. cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #59
intentionally obtuse reusrename Oct 2012 #62
ideally, you would be correct, but this is politics 0rganism Oct 2012 #65
This message was self-deleted by its author GeorgeGist Oct 2012 #22
I FIRMLY Believe that Mitt Romney is not qualified to be president that means it WCGreen Oct 2012 #27
Outrageous. Politifact knows exactly what they are doing with that careful phrasing. reflection Oct 2012 #30
Actually, it IS a FACT that "Hank Williams Jr. says Barack Obama is a Muslim." Here is my email to Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2012 #54
Wonderful response. reflection Oct 2012 #66
Well, thanks, but I guess PolitiCrap doesn't agree, since they haven't bothered to even respond to Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2012 #68
Politifact needs to learn phrases like, "lie by omission" and "false". ieoeja Oct 2012 #34
Maybe they meant because his father converted to Islam for a while, Obama's genetically Muslim. Bucky Oct 2012 #36
Wow, religion is now a genetic thing? Oilwellian Oct 2012 #46
Politiflipflop. hay rick Oct 2012 #40
i don't see any definition of "factual" that means you just make shit up noiretextatique Oct 2012 #41
Politifact is in the tank for Romney: ProSense Oct 2012 #42
How about this, "But the idea that Obama is a Muslim is not fictional."? Turborama Oct 2012 #43
Simply, there are NO facts to support the idea NashvilleLefty Oct 2012 #45
Correction - apparently you made an impression! NashvilleLefty Oct 2012 #49
Here's how it now reads. Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #55
That's not much better apples and oranges Oct 2012 #56
I disagree-- Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #67
Thank you. Great catch and solution! Zorra Oct 2012 #69
Politifiction is beneath contempt n/t markpkessinger Oct 2012 #47
Nutjobs say he's Muslim - see WIKIPEDIA upi402 Oct 2012 #50
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