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Spazito

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48. In reading your posts, it does come across as wanting to "coerce"...

Reply to Wildcat1955 (Reply #35)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:35 PM

Oct 2012

otherwise why posit the inference those who do not believe as you do are in need of "spiritual" help? It is not the "soul" we are talking about, it is the legal right of privacy woman have and those who choose, for themselves, what to do with their own body.

Bringing religion into this is, in itself, an attempt at coercion, imo. You have the right to believe what you want, you do not have the right to foist your beliefs upon others under the guise of "pro-birth" (again, whatever that is supposed to mean), imo.

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Confused [View all] Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 OP

How many unwanted children have you adopted? sadbear Oct 2012 #1

Wanting mothers to CHOOSE life is not radical. kalli007 Oct 2012 #2

Exactly 1gobluedem Oct 2012 #5

+1 ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #16

kalli007 is correct GitRDun Oct 2012 #54

Except that "prohibition with exceptions" precludes choice. n/t Egalitarian Thug Oct 2012 #57

Ok. What has that got to do with this conversation? renie408 Oct 2012 #118

Yes. In the thread that instigated this one. n/t Egalitarian Thug Oct 2012 #126

THIS right here. Chorophyll Oct 2012 #91

What she said x's 100. renie408 Oct 2012 #117

A woman is not a mother until she has given birth (or adopted) REP Oct 2012 #123

My answer get the red out Oct 2012 #3

Do you believe... mcranor Oct 2012 #4

You want to impose your beliefs and their consequences on others. immoderate Oct 2012 #6

Because some not all believe you should believe what they believe !!!!!! chille1 Oct 2012 #7

It is a volatile issue. Don't expect people to embrace a position that makes no sense. bluerum Oct 2012 #8

So all women who get knocked up have not the means to support a child? i was a cathar. Oct 2012 #125

As a rape crisis advocate and women's shelter volunteer, I can say for some it IS "no biggie" riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #127

Ooookay. Have a good one. Snowflake. bluerum Oct 2012 #128

So what you're saying is that you are pro choice. n/t ornotna Oct 2012 #9

Just want to add - you're anti-choice. Saying you're pro-life justiceischeap Oct 2012 #10

If you do not want to get an abortion Dyedinthewoolliberal Oct 2012 #11

Yes, you appear to be quite confused. Viking12 Oct 2012 #12

Don't care what you believe, or what you practice. Just don't TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #13

+1 Liberalynn Oct 2012 #46

+1000. nm nc4bo Oct 2012 #130

Well I'm confused too OldHippieChick Oct 2012 #14

Volitional pro-birth Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #21

The left does not have a bias for "death", nor are they less favorable towards "birth" riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #29

"do this in a non-coercive manner that respects individual freedom" What laws re abortion do you uppityperson Oct 2012 #43

I have a question for you. I don't know if you are male or female, but tell me what you sinkingfeeling Oct 2012 #15

I understand Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #23

And this is what pro-choice is all about. n/t Fla Dem Oct 2012 #67

So you're pro-choice. (nt) skinnertest Oct 2012 #69

It sounds like you may have "looked at it in purely medical terms" Mariana Oct 2012 #28

+1 Iris Oct 2012 #73

Perhaps you missed my reply asking you to define some terms to make it easier to discuss this. uppityperson Oct 2012 #17

Pro-birth Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #30

Is the opposite a bias in favor of...death? That is insulting most everyone but a few sociopaths uppityperson Oct 2012 #36

She just did say that in Post #21. ALL Dems are biased towards "death" riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #40

Absolutely not! Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #49

There are lots of organizations that offer women support marions ghost Oct 2012 #52

To clarify, sorry, you don't want to make abortions legally unavailable? Be coerced into not being uppityperson Oct 2012 #53

Don't like abortions? Horse with no Name Oct 2012 #18

That sums it up for me! hamsterjill Oct 2012 #27

+1000. nt Javaman Oct 2012 #70

You were condescending toward women. Mariana Oct 2012 #19

This. ceile Oct 2012 #20

No Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #32

Your own words misrepresent what you believe? Viking12 Oct 2012 #37

That's a direct copy of your other post! And you've just re-stated the exact same thing here! riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #39

So now women aren't intelligent Mariana Oct 2012 #80

Don't you have enough on your own plate? Seriously. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #86

damn, what Warren said Herlong Oct 2012 #97

Agreed. Iris Oct 2012 #75

Condescending ... and wrong REP Oct 2012 #78

Excellent post... Spazito Oct 2012 #87

I haven't updated it for a while; there's probably even more data negating his "concerns" REP Oct 2012 #124

Your view deserves respect Onlooker Oct 2012 #22

Onlooker Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #33

No Problem Here....but WiffenPoof Oct 2012 #24

"pro" and "anti" lables just dumb down the discourse BarackTheVote Oct 2012 #25

+1 freshwest Oct 2012 #101

Did you know married women also have abortions? Not just single mothers? uppityperson Oct 2012 #104

I am aware of that, which is why I said: BarackTheVote Oct 2012 #111

"Pro-birth"? Spazito Oct 2012 #26

Not at all Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #35

In reading your posts, it does come across as wanting to "coerce"... Spazito Oct 2012 #48

Spiritual??? KatyMan Oct 2012 #31

Spiritual advice Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #38

So you are not advocating limiting abortions legally. Thank you for making that clear. uppityperson Oct 2012 #105

Thank you. Maybe a man's opinion will actually count for something. Iris Oct 2012 #74

Your position implies that legal coercion of a person's body is just. That's the problem I see. Egalitarian Thug Oct 2012 #34

What? Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #42

From just your first reply; "but as an issue ethical concerns are paramount" Egalitarian Thug Oct 2012 #55

So no response to your own words? Do you really imagine that those of us Egalitarian Thug Oct 2012 #115

I don't understand your position gollygee Oct 2012 #41

Amen! Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #44

What laws do you support regarding abortions? uppityperson Oct 2012 #45

You say you believe in "prohibition with exceptions" what does that mean? WhollyHeretic Oct 2012 #47

Reply to #47 Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #56

China has universal health care, free birth control and sterilizations - a family planner's dream! riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #58

I know A LOT of people Horse with no Name Oct 2012 #59

What she said n/t KatyMan Oct 2012 #62

I was trying to be nice and give the poster some time to edit riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #63

You can always count on me to not be subtle,lol n/t Horse with no Name Oct 2012 #64

Thank you. n/t Iris Oct 2012 #76

I know women who had abortions for birth control. I mean, they all did, right? Abortion = no child? uppityperson Oct 2012 #106

Prohibit: to forbid by authority or law Viking12 Oct 2012 #66

What I would say has already been well said in this thread marions ghost Oct 2012 #50

I think progressives should be able to tolerate differences of opinion treestar Oct 2012 #51

Thanks tree star Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #65

Let's see... billh58 Oct 2012 #107

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #109

Whatever? billh58 Oct 2012 #120

Gotten enough attention, yet? Or will you be starting a third thread to discuss yourself? Indpndnt Oct 2012 #60

Turn the channel Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #68

The Channel Will Be Turned Soon Dear HangOnKids Oct 2012 #72

This thread was a waste of our time GitRDun Oct 2012 #61

I'm sorry Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #71

So how many children have you adopted? jeff47 Oct 2012 #79

This is where it goes off the rails GitRDun Oct 2012 #81

Assist Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #82

You asked why people get aggravated with you. Well your last response is why... GitRDun Oct 2012 #83

And you honestly think that anyone here is opposed to prenatal care? Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #96

Have you ever thought of having a pro humanity stance Herlong Oct 2012 #92

I'd like to know the specific paramaters of this "Culture of life" you think we should have Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #99

You're message would never be confused on FreeRepublic Herlong Oct 2012 #103

I have no problem with your views. . . BigDemVoter Oct 2012 #77

Take this to Meta. Actually, just take it elsewhere. morningfog Oct 2012 #84

I suspect the "hostility" comes from that fact that some in this country want to outlaw abortion. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #85

Correction Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #88

Effective for or at what? Iris Oct 2012 #90

Therefore you can see humanity Herlong Oct 2012 #93

Intrinsic value and worth to the fetus, Herlong Oct 2012 #100

Okay, bye bye, see ya and go fuck yourself. Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #132

Because that attitude is not progressive, no matter what the alleged pro-lifers claim: freshwest Oct 2012 #89

Just curious Herlong Oct 2012 #94

"pro-birth position"? cute. you mean FORCED birth. nt seabeyond Oct 2012 #95

Yes, you ARE confused, WinkyDink Oct 2012 #98

Or baiting us here for friends elsewhere. freshwest Oct 2012 #102

By starting multiple threads on the same topic. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #108

Good grief Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #110

Really? Interesting. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #112

Veracity Wildcat1955 Oct 2012 #114

Then this thread does belong in meta. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #122

You never know. freshwest Oct 2012 #113

Because there are as many knee jerkers that are liberals as there are conservatives. renie408 Oct 2012 #116

Bigotry tends to draw hostility. Starry Messenger Oct 2012 #119

You are too old to have a dog in this fight Generic Other Oct 2012 #121

Let me explain my position on this... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #129

Are you advocating for outlawing abortion? If so, you can go fuck yourself. Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #131

Confusion could be your epitaph... Ellipsis Oct 2012 #133

"I fail to understand how wanting mothers to chose life is radical" liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #134

Do you think abortion should be legal? Yes/No? Logical Oct 2012 #135