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Hissyspit

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Wed Oct 17, 2012, 01:00 AM
Oct 2012
http://blog.thephoenix.com/BLOGS/talkingpolitics/archive/2012/10/16/mind-the-binder.aspx

Mind The Binder
Published Oct 16 2012, 10:46 PM by David S. Bernstein 12
Hey, I know about that binder! And guess what -- Mitt Romney was lying about it.

From the rush transcript:

CROWLEY: Governor Romney, pay equity for women?

ROMNEY: Thank you. An important topic, and one which I learned a great deal about, particularly as I was serving as governor of my state, because I had the chance to pull together a cabinet and all the applicants seemed to be men.

And I -- and I went to my staff, and I said, "How come all the people for these jobs are -- are all men." They said, "Well, these are the people that have the qualifications." And I said, "Well, gosh, can't we -- can't we find some -- some women that are also qualified?"

And -- and so we -- we took a concerted effort to go out and find women who had backgrounds that could be qualified to become members of our cabinet.

I went to a number of women's groups and said, "Can you help us find folks," and they brought us whole binders full of women.

I was proud of the fact that after I staffed my Cabinet and my senior staff, that the University of New York in Albany did a survey of all 50 states, and concluded that mine had more women in senior leadership positions than any other state in America.

Now one of the reasons I was able to get so many good women to be part of that team was because of our recruiting effort.

Not a true story.

What actually happened was that in 2002 -- prior to the election, not even knowing yet whether it would be a Republican or Democratic administration -- a bipartisan group of women in Massachusetts formed MassGAP to address the problem of few women in senior leadership positions in state government. There were more than 40 organizations involved with the Massachusetts Women's Political Caucus (also bipartisan) as the lead sponsor.

They did the research and put together the binder full of women qualified for all the different cabinet positions, agency heads, and authorities and commissions. They presented this binder to Governor Romney when he was elected.

I have written about this before, in various contexts; tonight I've checked with several people directly involved in the MassGAP effort who confirm that this history as I've just presented it is correct -- and that Romney's claim tonight, that he asked for such a study, is false.


And...


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021562149

"The Number of Women in Top Appointed Positions Actually Declined 27.6% During Romney's Tenure"

Laura Bassett

Mitt Romney 'Binders Full Of Women' Claim Misleads

Posted: 10/17/2012 12:24 am EDT Updated: 10/17/2012 12:35 am EDT

Mitt Romney raised eyebrows during the presidential debate Tuesday night when he claimed that as governor of Massachusetts, he had been so dismayed at the lack of female cabinet candidates that he sent women's groups out to find them.

- snip -

In fact, Romney did not direct women's groups to bring him female candidates, Boston Pheonix reporter David Bernstein points out. A non-partisan collaboration of women’s groups called Massachusetts Government Appointments Project (MassGAP) was responsible for the effort in 2002, when the group's leaders realized that women held only 30 percent of the top appointed positions in the state.

Romney boasted that during his term as governor, Massachusetts had more women in senior leadership positions than any other state in America. "Now one of the reasons I was able to get so many good women to be part of that team was because of our recruiting effort," he said.

This statement, too, is misleading. While 42 percent of Romney’s appointments during his first 2-1/2 years as governor were women, the number of women in high-level appointed positions actually declined 27.6 percent during his full tenure as governor, according to a 2007 MassGAP study.

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There was a second moment zentrum Oct 2012 #1
He got the last word? GOOD. calimary Oct 2012 #6
Yes, he got the last word, and it was brilliant. Chorophyll Oct 2012 #29
And it has had no replay on MSNBC tonight krawhitham Oct 2012 #11
Romney left himself wide open on that by bringing up his inane "100%" line. nyquil_man Oct 2012 #17
My son (19) immendiately said ... oh, that opens Obama to hitting him on the 47% JoePhilly Oct 2012 #30
Romney has clearly shown he has no respect for rules, the topics, the time....NOTHING and NO-ONE. He WinkyDink Oct 2012 #33
K&R patrice Oct 2012 #2
It was at 23 seconds he lost Kalidurga Oct 2012 #3
Yes, he was going to show that "boy" how much brass he had BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #5
Yes, that was good, too. Also, Obama's "it's offensive" Libya retort. Hissyspit Oct 2012 #7
Yup. I jumped off my couch a little bit at that point. Chorophyll Oct 2012 #31
"Please proceed to shoot your nuts off, Governor." BlueStreak Oct 2012 #9
LOL-- exactly NoMoreWarNow Oct 2012 #34
How did Obama deliver the "Please Proceed" line without cracking a smile? BlueStreak Oct 2012 #37
LOL! Exactly. "Please proceed, Governor." [So I can play rope-a-dope!] SunSeeker Oct 2012 #18
That was priceless. Just priceless. MadrasT Oct 2012 #25
"Step into my parlor," said the spider to the fly. n/t nichomachus Oct 2012 #42
K&R myrna minx Oct 2012 #4
My SO says he lost it when he implied that he couldn't find a single qualified woman for his staff Xedniw Oct 2012 #8
And it never occurred to him to INTERVIEW some? BlueStreak Oct 2012 #10
Here's more info: Hissyspit Oct 2012 #12
thanks for this fact-checking! renate Oct 2012 #15
None of the ones just around were qualified, don't you see? Mariana Oct 2012 #28
Qualified women are like dear in hunting season. Very quiet and skittish. JoePhilly Oct 2012 #32
He didn't answer the question, which was: Amonester Oct 2012 #20
Yup. Hissyspit Oct 2012 #24
I suspect his answer would have been that the wage gap is negligible/fair so it's not a problem. redqueen Oct 2012 #38
He also said: "IF we're going to have women in the work force..." Pathwalker Oct 2012 #41
And you could tell he was lying by all the stops & starts at the beginning of that little tale justiceischeap Oct 2012 #26
Exactly. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #35
Lol.yeah that one,just too damn okieinpain Oct 2012 #13
or..."I wonder why women don't want to work for me?" marions ghost Oct 2012 #36
THEN he said women need to go home and make dinner XemaSab Oct 2012 #23
Romney's cabinet was all show and all he talked about. Obama talked policies, facts, directions, ... Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2012 #27
Wondering if Mitt is going to lose his cool at some point in this thing. n/t Fire Walk With Me Oct 2012 #14
Romney Did Try To Double Down Even As Candy Crowley Corrected Him TomCADem Oct 2012 #16
Yep. Romney's "lie lie lie" strategy blew up in his fucking FACE tonight. Marr Oct 2012 #19
I bet Fox and the RW just chalk it up to him being confused... Up2Late Oct 2012 #21
Excellent analysis from Jason Easley..thanks Hissyspit! Cha Oct 2012 #22
I know there are better angles of that clip siligut Oct 2012 #39
Now is the time for everyone to spread Romney's OTHER videos of acting like a bully. progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #40
K&R. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #43
K & R -- and truedelphi Oct 2012 #44
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