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In the discussion thread: 14 Cattle Trucks Burned by Activists at Harris Ranch in Coalinga, California [View all]

Wed Jan 11, 2012, 01:19 PM

jsmirman (4,188 posts)

50. You do understand how statistics work, right?

No, I do not think you have a clue.

This is not a small sample size. The animal welfare/rights movement is not a new movement - although it is newer than many other movements - but it sure wasn't born yesterday. With the number of actions taken and the human injury toll at ZERO, it is not luck, it is not coincidence, it is not even just a trend. It is overwhelming evidence that physical harm to actual human beings is not what is practiced by these groups.

Yet you lump animal activists with anti-abortion activists, who HAVE committed numerous murders and much more numerous assaults, along with making countless death threats. Insanity.

You have bought the government bullshit and your conflation is shameful.

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99 replies	Author	Time	Post
14 Cattle Trucks Burned by Activists at Harris Ranch in Coalinga, California [View all]	Omaha Steve	Jan 2012	OP
Some burn trucks, some abortion clinics	The Straight Story	Jan 2012	#1
Most of the time it takes self immolation to get a reaction.	WingDinger	Jan 2012	#2
When we have the ability to clone ourselves we can immolate our clone	The Straight Story	Jan 2012	#3
I wish...	ellisonz	Jan 2012	#25
Eye for an eye, anyone? nt	mattvermont	Jan 2012	#4
The California Penal Code doesn't allow for that, but you can get a life sentence for arson	slackmaster	Jan 2012	#35
Only if there is a death in an act of arson...	hang a left	Jan 2012	#54
Death is always a risk when someone commits arson	slackmaster	Jan 2012	#57
You and I shall agree..	hang a left	Jan 2012	#58
Terrorism	Gore1FL	Jan 2012	#5
Hardcore animal liberationist here, denouncing the use of fire or anything that goes ka-boom.	flvegan	Jan 2012	#6
so are you suggesting	mattvermont	Jan 2012	#9
I'm not suggesting anything so vague. "Any other means"...no thanks.	flvegan	Jan 2012	#11
Al I am trying to say	mattvermont	Jan 2012	#12
Again, Rule #4.	flvegan	Jan 2012	#19
Thanks for your more moderate POV.	Zalatix	Jan 2012	#65
+1. Yep. n/t	ceile	Jan 2012	#73
Bullshit. I'll tell you why they "waited for news reports."	Robb	Jan 2012	#7
They were extremely lucky that they killed no one.	Ikonoklast	Jan 2012	#16
ZERO human injuries ever =/= "extremely lucky"	jsmirman	Jan 2012	#47
Pure luck no one was killed.	Ikonoklast	Jan 2012	#48
You do understand how statistics work, right?	jsmirman	Jan 2012	#50
Keep defending violent domestic terrorists.	Ikonoklast	Jan 2012	#52
Non-fact	Major Nikon	Jan 2012	#64
Wow, no violence against property allowed even for a good cause. You are hard core.	Vattel	Jan 2012	#77
Keep minimizing their actions if it makes you feel better	Major Nikon	Jan 2012	#83
Ridiculous	jsmirman	Jan 2012	#84
Homes firebombed? Nah, never...	hardluck	Jan 2012	#94
This is what I can tell you	jsmirman	Jan 2012	#95
Some of what you mention there refers to the "AETA 4"	jsmirman	Jan 2012	#96
No support here.	cherokeeprogressive	Jan 2012	#8
Harris Ranch is vile	XemaSab	Jan 2012	#10
Are there any Valley feedlots or dairy farms that are not vile?	hunter	Jan 2012	#15
well said..............n/t	dhill926	Jan 2012	#18
Yes	catchnrelease	Jan 2012	#24
I also do not support the use of violence even to property to make a political point.	JDPriestly	Jan 2012	#13
This post was hidden by jury decision.	E6-B	Jan 2012	#14
Oh my, an act of war on a private industry in a sovereign nation. Will be interesting, this one. K&R	T S Justly	Jan 2012	#17
Domestic terrorism	pipoman	Jan 2012	#20
Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act	joshcryer	Jan 2012	#22
This post was hidden by jury decision.	yournottheanswer	Jan 2012	#21
You're ...	T S Justly	Jan 2012	#26
response	barbols2009	Jan 2012	#29
Yes	cpaddack2011	Jan 2012	#33
Good cause harmed by egregious tactics.	Matariki	Jan 2012	#23
That feed lot is an obscenity.	Hell Hath No Fury	Jan 2012	#27
What ever your opinions on animals as food, this is terrorism and is wrong.	Odin2005	Jan 2012	#28
Do a little research	F.Y.I.	Jan 2012	#30
BS, BS, BS!!! And Koch Industries is a "family run corporation"	jsmirman	Jan 2012	#44
+1 n/t	ceile	Jan 2012	#53
You're confusing farms with slaughterhouses	Major Nikon	Jan 2012	#66
Do you know what "vertical integration" is???	jsmirman	Jan 2012	#85
Nice comeback	Major Nikon	Jan 2012	#87
What in the world are you talking about?	jsmirman	Jan 2012	#91
COWARDS	cpaddack2011	Jan 2012	#31
This message was self-deleted by its author	Obamanaut	Jan 2012	#32
That's fucked up like a football bat	slackmaster	Jan 2012	#34
were there cows in trucks?	ddeclue	Jan 2012	#36
why can't factory farms just be totally illegal?	alp227	Jan 2012	#37
Because the vast majority CAN'T afford to buy organic free-range grass-fed	downwardly_mobile	Jan 2012	#39
where in the constitution is there a right to eat meat? why not go back to the family farm instead?	alp227	Jan 2012	#40
The US Constitution does not grant rights.	cherokeeprogressive	Jan 2012	#41
The Monkey Wrench Gang rides again.	OxQQme	Jan 2012	#38
Only in California....	Liveinit	Jan 2012	#42
Yes, you live the same as these animals in factory farms	jsmirman	Jan 2012	#46
Oh bull-motherfucking-shit.	Codeine	Jan 2012	#55
Always	jsmirman	Jan 2012	#59
just shows	Liveinit	Jan 2012	#43
Fact: ZERO people have been injured by animal activists in America	jsmirman	Jan 2012	#45
Financial and psychological injury count as injuries	slackmaster	Jan 2012	#49
Corporations are NOT PEOPLE, facilities are NOT PEOPLE	jsmirman	Jan 2012	#51
Do you actually believe that individual people suffer no harm when property belonging to a business	slackmaster	Jan 2012	#56
You know damn well that's not what I said	jsmirman	Jan 2012	#60
Nice false choice	slackmaster	Jan 2012	#61
A suggestion this might not be "terrorism":	jsmirman	Jan 2012	#93
I'm not sure whose use of the words "terror" and "terrorism" you are railing against	slackmaster	Jan 2012	#98
The Government's definition	jsmirman	Jan 2012	#99
"...you can't even find me a badly sprained ankle..." Hmm.	friendly_iconoclast	Jan 2012	#80
I don't believe there were ever any arrests made in that incident	jsmirman	Jan 2012	#88
What do I win?	flvegan	Jan 2012	#70
I don't think there is any proven link between that and animal activists	jsmirman	Jan 2012	#97
Can we assume your other posts are of similar accuracy?	friendly_iconoclast	Jan 2012	#79
As I said, no arrests made	jsmirman	Jan 2012	#89
Good.	LeftyMom	Jan 2012	#62
Yes, terrorism is always good and we should celebrate it	Major Nikon	Jan 2012	#67
Property damage isn't terrorism.	LeftyMom	Jan 2012	#68
Do you really think this is as simple as property damage?	Major Nikon	Jan 2012	#69
Nice strawman. The "ballot box"? "Terrorism"?	ceile	Jan 2012	#72
What exactly do you think terrorism is?	Major Nikon	Jan 2012	#74
I guess we're of a different mindset.	ceile	Jan 2012	#75
I've heard better arguments from the anti-abortionists	Major Nikon	Jan 2012	#76
.	ceile	Jan 2012	#78
Then these church burnings weren't terrorism?	friendly_iconoclast	Jan 2012	#82
I wouldn't call that terrorism	Major Nikon	Jan 2012	#90
Church = Production facility???	jsmirman	Jan 2012	#92
What's the carbon footprint	Fla_Democrat	Jan 2012	#63
This is the "good" sort of arson. There isn't any.	friendly_iconoclast	Jan 2012	#81
Is that like	Fla_Democrat	Jan 2012	#86
An ugly and criminal act	Yo_Mama	Jan 2012	#71

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