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Sheesh! This should be national news. nt 2 Much Tribulation Oct 2012 #1
+1 hrmjustin Oct 2012 #77
Unbelievable that it's not. go west young man Oct 2012 #120
I don't think the owners of the media like to talk about such things. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #121
It should have been national news in 2004 too... joycejnr Oct 2012 #103
Republicans care about every conceivable security breech except for e-voting Tom Rinaldo Oct 2012 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #3
Holder wouldn't give a crap unless the machines were caught smoking pot. FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #27
Couldn't have... thc420 Oct 2012 #51
Holder is one of the BIGGEST disappointments of the Obama Administration. bvar22 Oct 2012 #147
He was "supposed to be" investigating election fraud in Florida, but citizens found it instead. robinlynne Oct 2012 #52
Isn't this a crime??? tblue Oct 2012 #139
yes it is. robinlynne Oct 2012 #140
When are going to just let sixth graders count the vote as a civic duty. hootinholler Oct 2012 #4
That sounds like a wonderful idea! BlueCaliDem Oct 2012 #55
Newt should agree SCVDem Oct 2012 #62
~lol CrispyQ Oct 2012 #81
With ONE difference . . . they're not working BlueCaliDem Oct 2012 #105
Plus it teaches them they can't really trust 'grown-ups' to always do the right thing. hootinholler Oct 2012 #90
This is important. Spread this around. 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #5
Video... YvonneCa Oct 2012 #17
I want to know the stats Liberal Gramma Oct 2012 #6
k&r. k&r. K&R! robinlynne Oct 2012 #7
This Too Scary!!! ChiciB1 Oct 2012 #8
I would send this to TRM show! n/t arthritisR_US Oct 2012 #9
That is not a software error. That's an intentional program! Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #10
prefuckingcisely pnwest Oct 2012 #28
Absolutely! LiberalFighter Oct 2012 #47
Yes. Computers don't do anything they are not programmed to do. KeepItReal Oct 2012 #85
As an accomplished programmer (retired), I absolutely agree. TahitiNut Oct 2012 #91
Thank you. Scootaloo Oct 2012 #102
! Barack_America Oct 2012 #143
Thanks. I could write an essay on the idiocy of claiming such behavior is a "bug." TahitiNut Oct 2012 #151
Please do. You can start by disassembling the vendor "explanations" at this link Land Shark Oct 2012 #158
Not necessary: From the article:"In other words, it wasn't a bug, it was a feature." TahitiNut Oct 2012 #180
Thanks, tho you still deserve an OP treatment of your points here nt Land Shark Oct 2012 #188
I second the request to please explain this in an OP. Barack_America Oct 2012 #172
If it could happen once, and if it could happen here ... lpbk2713 Oct 2012 #11
How do you think Bush won in 2000??? dixiegrrrrl Oct 2012 #59
Once again, EVERY POS and ATM in the country produces a paper receipt... HopeHoops Oct 2012 #12
Amen! But who is listening? NoMoreWarNow Oct 2012 #33
Nobody. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #38
While a paper "receipt" is better, it's still not enough, IMHO. TahitiNut Oct 2012 #92
Well, if the voter receipt matches the rolling paper in the machine (through a window),... HopeHoops Oct 2012 #94
Paper ballots that can be hand counted. RC Oct 2012 #95
The sad thing is that they COULD be accurate AND trustworthy. They just aren't. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #137
Hand counted paper ballots, in and of themselves, ARE trustworthy, but more is... Land Shark Oct 2012 #138
That lack of evidence is by design. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #141
True (with regard to computerized vote counting, which is inherently secret vote counting) Land Shark Oct 2012 #142
That's something else I don't understand. RC Oct 2012 #168
we DO NOT need to know the winner by 10pm EST or so. That being said... Land Shark Oct 2012 #169
Well, I posted this elsewhere, but I'll post it again. I think we need at least a 2-week window. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #175
Then why laundry_queen Oct 2012 #181
DUers need to read this and get it up high on the greatest page. This is what will determine the re robinlynne Oct 2012 #13
K and R titaniumsalute Oct 2012 #21
this BS happened when bush won & the bastards still are going to do this again ! april Oct 2012 #14
And that's what happens when they get away with it! rock Oct 2012 #79
Every four years, this becomes an issue. dotymed Oct 2012 #131
Exactly. This is how Bush was crowned in 2000 and 2004. ywcachieve Oct 2012 #93
This concerns me greatly. Delphinus Oct 2012 #15
Kick! brindis_desala Oct 2012 #16
This is why exit polling is no longer used... Bandit Oct 2012 #18
Scary indeed! K&R classof56 Oct 2012 #19
Kick & recommended. William769 Oct 2012 #20
Democrats have probably been winning for YEARS. Matariki Oct 2012 #22
I suspect this greatly nt flamingdem Oct 2012 #44
The only Democrats who win now OnyxCollie Oct 2012 #88
DECADES! Ohio was solid BLUE before punch card voting made it too easy to fix elections Coyotl Oct 2012 #132
double K&R defacto7 Oct 2012 #23
It would be interesting to see all the states refusing the Fed test. FedUpWithIt All Oct 2012 #24
How is that even possible? LiberalLovinLug Oct 2012 #56
It was implemented as a "voluntary" program. FedUpWithIt All Oct 2012 #75
Because the Constitution says so in Article II jberryhill Oct 2012 #126
Actually, feds have de facto control of state elections because... Land Shark Oct 2012 #130
Yes, there is also the voting rights act jberryhill Oct 2012 #179
K & R AzDar Oct 2012 #25
And so it begins. lalalu Oct 2012 #26
I go to the Brad Blog LittleGirl Oct 2012 #29
Exactly right. Paper. Brad has fabulous election fraud info on his site. valerief Oct 2012 #43
Indeed he should be on the news every night LittleGirl Oct 2012 #69
Oops, maybe I was thinking of Current but it should have been RT. nt valerief Oct 2012 #74
paper is not enough. garybeck Oct 2012 #154
Audits must be ANNOUNCED b/c they're legal requirements, so fraudsters can always work around Land Shark Oct 2012 #157
what are your thoughts on this? garybeck Oct 2012 #161
I encourage you, YET no audit provides REASSURANCE of election accuracy Land Shark Oct 2012 #166
I agree, but... garybeck Oct 2012 #170
There are no "good" audits, but some are better than others Land Shark Oct 2012 #171
Paper, meaning JUST paper. No machines. nt valerief Oct 2012 #167
Brad Blog is an incredible resource marions ghost Oct 2012 #72
Kicking. Very important story that needs as much visability as possible. Whovian Oct 2012 #30
Kick! JimDandy Oct 2012 #31
This happens every voting season. Stevepol Oct 2012 #32
in theory, local election boards are responsible and should want to make sure they are counting the NoMoreWarNow Oct 2012 #36
this was only caught because there were paper ballots NoMoreWarNow Oct 2012 #34
I witnessed a DRE flipping votes in Florida in 2004... Sancho Oct 2012 #35
how can people not care? NoMoreWarNow Oct 2012 #39
Short of armed revolution? Doubt it. nt valerief Oct 2012 #42
We've complained, some have gone to court... Sancho Oct 2012 #127
The reality is that if we stop one form of election fraud, the GOP will always invent another one. factsarenotfair Oct 2012 #37
I'm sure he is not NoMoreWarNow Oct 2012 #40
Like we haven't known this since HAVA started!!!! nt valerief Oct 2012 #41
What if anything can we do? flamingdem Oct 2012 #46
Short of armed revolution, I don't know. nt valerief Oct 2012 #50
I have some gardening tools .. nt flamingdem Oct 2012 #54
Congress has plenty of hoes. valerief Oct 2012 #57
o m g flamingdem Oct 2012 #82
find your state's election integrity organization and get active. garybeck Oct 2012 #162
Most likely this is the tip of the iceberg--has happened unknown # of times! hue Oct 2012 #45
At some point the game will end. You can see it coming. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #48
When I use Excel or a database LiberalFighter Oct 2012 #49
Likewise. It is really easy to self-check programming in Excel. Coyotl Oct 2012 #133
OK, preparing to move to Canada. elleng Oct 2012 #53
Voter suppression has begun up here too! MAD Dave Oct 2012 #116
Will keep my eyes on things up north, MAD, elleng Oct 2012 #118
VA uses these machines.....my ATM prints a picture of my check..... Gin Oct 2012 #58
Posted at FaceBook. elleng Oct 2012 #60
May I add that the federal program which oversees the federal cerification is staffed robinlynne Oct 2012 #61
Full support? SCVDem Oct 2012 #68
more support than I have ever seen for a US president since John Kennedy. How's that? robinlynne Oct 2012 #119
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2012 #63
I don't know... DirtyDawg Oct 2012 #64
K&R louslobbs Oct 2012 #65
"software error" Canuckistanian Oct 2012 #66
I'm sure it's really an "error" too. tarheelsunc Oct 2012 #67
The Solution To This Problem Is So Simple Z_California Oct 2012 #70
Of course this is only meaningful if you can see who you voted for. JackRiddler Oct 2012 #113
If I and I alone... Z_California Oct 2012 #150
Thousands, literally, see their vote flipped, but they seem reassured b/c thinking they "Caught it" Land Shark Oct 2012 #155
yikes MerryBlooms Oct 2012 #71
OK it's time to DO SOMETHING about electronic voting machines Blue Owl Oct 2012 #73
K & R nt Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2012 #76
K&R idwiyo Oct 2012 #78
Dominion Voting Systems suffragette Oct 2012 #80
Dominion? flamingdem Oct 2012 #83
Way suffragette Oct 2012 #182
Is it a hint? flamingdem Oct 2012 #184
Dominion = Diebold + Sequoia? Mc Mike Oct 2012 #125
and don't forget, for a few months in there, Diebold/Premier was owned by ESS. garybeck Oct 2012 #164
Great points Gary suffragette Oct 2012 #183
You mean the Urosevich brothers are sharing info, or in-fighting? nt. Mc Mike Oct 2012 #186
This is why Florida should never be considered in Dem electoral projections. aquart Oct 2012 #84
A top computer guy who does stuff for the Defense Department said: DFW Oct 2012 #86
Very true quote! 2 Much Tribulation Oct 2012 #89
Are you saying that voting machines have a cellular radio in them? Flatulo Oct 2012 #107
I have no idea what the tech side is to that DFW Oct 2012 #109
Yes many of these computerized voting machines have wireless ports Land Shark Oct 2012 #110
I know how election fraud will finally be addressed and corrected... Kurovski Oct 2012 #112
k&r nt steve2470 Oct 2012 #87
I wondered how Reek Scott got elected- secondvariety Oct 2012 #96
Reek Scott!! Good one! Zalatix Oct 2012 #108
What foreigners will think of America... JackN415 Oct 2012 #97
That Americans invented voting machines to fix overseas elections, of course Coyotl Oct 2012 #134
Oh... theKed Oct 2012 #135
Flori-fuckin-duh Daniel537 Oct 2012 #98
Hindsight will show Jakes Progress Oct 2012 #99
This IS the ticking time bomb. Also 19 States now NOT doing EXIT POLLS??? WTF? 99th_Monkey Oct 2012 #100
Kicking, and encouraging dissemination EVERYWHERE! elleng Oct 2012 #101
K&R!!! KansDem Oct 2012 #104
There's also an absentee ballot fiasco in Palm Beach County. hay rick Oct 2012 #106
Those 60,000 votes from Palm Beach county FlaGranny Oct 2012 #129
Kick please glinda Oct 2012 #111
ok, here's your kick. ;) Land Shark Oct 2012 #114
... glinda Oct 2012 #123
These kind of reports make me sick to my stomach and causes sleep problems. Auntie Bush Oct 2012 #115
Is Obama behind the story? RobertEarl Oct 2012 #117
The courts need to step in and tell Florida to clean their mess up davidpdx Oct 2012 #122
These are nationwide RobertEarl Oct 2012 #124
Can anyone find a way Le Taz Hot Oct 2012 #128
K&R Jamastiene Oct 2012 #136
Way past time to make voting machines as secure as ATM's...it's a joke passing as democracy. nt mother earth Oct 2012 #144
ATMs produce cash that if you do NOT hand count it, you're a fool Land Shark Oct 2012 #146
There has to be an audit trail, but certainly the paper ballots are best, the polls are tools, mother earth Oct 2012 #178
if you want to change it, pay attention to your Secretary of State elections. NuttyFluffers Oct 2012 #145
Chicken and egg nolabels Oct 2012 #149
not really.... garybeck Oct 2012 #153
Sec of State Debra Bowen was key to getting CA back from play. NuttyFluffers Oct 2012 #187
yes I acknowledge Bowen for sure, but let me ask you.... garybeck Oct 2012 #190
Problem is, SOS Bowen exposed many (not all) problems, AND KEPT THE COMPUTERIZED SYSTEMS Land Shark Oct 2012 #193
We have paper ballots Le Taz Hot Oct 2012 #194
that's not enough. garybeck Oct 2012 #195
DREs are only for disabled voters who explicitly choose to vote that way NuttyFluffers Oct 2012 #197
what kind of machines are they using there? garybeck Oct 2012 #148
Sequoia (now Dominion) optical scan systems, 2% audits (officials sure all errors NOT caught) Land Shark Oct 2012 #152
thanks. so let me get this straight.... Diebold, ESS, Premier, Dominion..... all the same....? garybeck Oct 2012 #159
After a flurry of recent mergers/divestitures, Dominion dominates as follows Land Shark Oct 2012 #163
during the brief period that ESS owned Diebold/Permier, don't you think they would have garybeck Oct 2012 #196
This could so easily be solved, and the trust of the voters restored Not Me Oct 2012 #156
Except this suggestion wouldn't, in fact, work Land Shark Oct 2012 #160
K&R n/t myrna minx Oct 2012 #165
Thanks to all for keeping this thread kicked. nt Land Shark Oct 2012 #173
I could have detected this problem with statistics BEFORE the election was certified. fchoquette Oct 2012 #174
+1 for extra analysis Land Shark Oct 2012 #177
Software error my round butt. PDJane Oct 2012 #176
Bring cameras, cell phones tessar Oct 2012 #185
Interesting how a few states are trying to make polling places camera-free Land Shark Oct 2012 #189
Cameras and cell phones cant take a picture of the vote counting when it takes place garybeck Oct 2012 #191
+1 Land Shark Oct 2012 #192
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