Sun Oct 7, 2012, 08:02 AM

NBC tells Obama not to use footage [View all]

NBC has asked President Barack Obama’s campaign to stop using the network’s footage in a recently released reelection ad, POLITICO has learned.

In a letter sent Friday night to Obama campaign manager Jim Messina, NBC told the Obama campaign to cease using network footage in a new 30-second spot, released shortly after Wednesday’s debate, in which Andrea Mitchell is shown on air citing an independent, stating that Mitt Romney’s tax plan would cost $4.8 trillion over 10 years, a source said.

NBC News has faced issues like this throughout the campaign, including a Romney campaign ad that featured Tom Brokaw.

“NBC News has not granted any campaign permission to use our news material. As is our practice, we have requested that the Obama campaign refrain from using NBC News material in this and future advertisements,” the network said in a statement.

The Obama campaign did not respond to a request for comment.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82104.html#ixzz28c7MR4v2

Well they did it to the Romney campaign however I think that if its out of context then it should not be used... Me? I think its fair game and not copywrited.

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NBC tells Obama not to use footage [View all]	Ichingcarpenter	Oct 2012	OP
I'd say if they are covering the election and mention the candidates, it's fair	brewens	Oct 2012	#1
2 words	Godless in Seattle	Oct 2012	#31
+1	blkmusclmachine	Oct 2012	#85
But it is copywrited,	MadHound	Oct 2012	#2
Fair Use trumps that.	Lex	Oct 2012	#9
No, it doesn't,	MadHound	Oct 2012	#37
Scolarship is only one exemption..	X_Digger	Oct 2012	#46
This isn't criticism or comment,	MadHound	Oct 2012	#55
How is it not comment?!?	X_Digger	Oct 2012	#56
If I were NBC, I would have a problem	abumbyanyothername	Oct 2012	#58
LOL! touché n/t	X_Digger	Oct 2012	#59
If I were NBC, I would be delighted to have someone running my footage on ABC or CBS	JDPriestly	Oct 2012	#74
You should have bolded	99th_Monkey	Oct 2012	#79
If the excerpt is short enough, its fair use	cprise	Oct 2012	#70
Maybe I've been watching too much Newsroom...	intersectionality	Oct 2012	#87
then can a campaign use any copyrighted music that they want under that same fair use? eom	yawnmaster	Oct 2012	#43
That is my understanding, too	cpamomfromtexas	Oct 2012	#80
They're using broadcasting rights granted by "We the people."	R. Daneel Olivaw	Oct 2012	#78
You'd be completely wrong	dems_rightnow	Oct 2012	#3
There are legal exceptions	dennis4868	Oct 2012	#4
It sounds like their objection is to making it seem like their ANCHORS	ejpoeta	Oct 2012	#5
No! You're completely wrong.	longship	Oct 2012	#10
I am aware of fair use	dems_rightnow	Oct 2012	#15
Commercial venture doesn't matter.	Lex	Oct 2012	#18
Yes	dems_rightnow	Oct 2012	#21
It's a political ad, not 'commentary' or 'news reporting'	muriel_volestrangler	Oct 2012	#36
It's news! It was on the airwaves, a public conveyance.	longship	Oct 2012	#33
It is how you use it that determines fair use	Ms. Toad	Oct 2012	#41
It doesn't matter that its news or was on the airwaves.	onenote	Oct 2012	#42
See other posts in this thread. Yes it does!	longship	Oct 2012	#49
My three decades of copyright law practice	onenote	Oct 2012	#57
Glad you posted here.	longship	Oct 2012	#60
I only know of one comparable case	onenote	Oct 2012	#61
Thank you for the clarification.	longship	Oct 2012	#62
Isn't it a bit like DU's problems with Righthaven?	Generic Other	Oct 2012	#71
Its not a restriction on quoting	onenote	Oct 2012	#75
This seems like fair use.	mattclearing	Oct 2012	#6
This message was self-deleted by its author	Lex	Oct 2012	#17
Keep using, laws or truth don't matter to Rmoneys campaign.	Tribetime	Oct 2012	#7
Hell, truth doesn't matter to NBC, either.	GoCubsGo	Oct 2012	#19
you got that right, screw them. n/t	Tribetime	Oct 2012	#32
Amen! Matt Lauer's a Repubican shill - just like David "Raps-with-Rove" Gregory & Chucky Todd	66 dmhlt	Oct 2012	#63
As is Lauer's fill-in for today...	GoCubsGo	Oct 2012	#64
An "if" question. If 100 people went to the same sports event, and if those 100 people filmed	2on2u	Oct 2012	#8
Elementray	dems_rightnow	Oct 2012	#13
Their broadcast is a type of publishing	muriel_volestrangler	Oct 2012	#16
You don't think it was "news reporting?"	Lex	Oct 2012	#20
When an NBC employee says something? No.	muriel_volestrangler	Oct 2012	#26
I tend to agree	davidpdx	Oct 2012	#27
Last time I checked the president was trying to help everyone in this country profit, not only the	2on2u	Oct 2012	#39
You're not copyrighting the event -	Ms. Toad	Oct 2012	#45
I Don't Think It Would Happen But The Obama Campaign Could Make A Decision Not To Air Any More Ads..	global1	Oct 2012	#11
They not only wouldn't lose a thing, they'd make even more money.	GoCubsGo	Oct 2012	#22
Heh heh	tavalon	Oct 2012	#25
CopyRIGHT.. NOT copywrite.	ananda	Oct 2012	#12
Yup. Your rite.	Curtland1015	Oct 2012	#14
Fair Use. But the Striesand effect helps us. nt	msanthrope	Oct 2012	#23
Too bad but unfortunately, they have the right	tavalon	Oct 2012	#24
This isn't a bad thing -	lynne	Oct 2012	#28
Response: "The Obama campaign will stop using your clips to point out Romney's lies when your	JoePhilly	Oct 2012	#29
"Andrea Mitchell is shown on air citing an independent"	loyalsister	Oct 2012	#30
I think it's this - she quoted the Tax Policy Center	muriel_volestrangler	Oct 2012	#34
Work around	edhopper	Oct 2012	#35
Yeah, I was thinking something like that! nm	Cha	Oct 2012	#48
Hey NBC ...do ya want to keep taking money for campaign ads from our side?	L0oniX	Oct 2012	#38
yes we wouldn't want the truth come between us and ratings of close race	Tribetime	Oct 2012	#40
I think NBC is making a mistake here.	surrealAmerican	Oct 2012	#44
I think to give the impression of neutrality	JonLP24	Oct 2012	#67
So what about that Ad "Great Expectations"?	Cha	Oct 2012	#47
I had no idea there were so many copyright law scholars there are in DU!!	WillowTree	Oct 2012	#50
we have scholars of all types!! myself, there are innumerable subjects...	yawnmaster	Oct 2012	#53
They did it to Romney too in January	alsame	Oct 2012	#51
...commercial that consists almost entirely of...	cprise	Oct 2012	#72
The proper response should be we will think about it in a couple of weeks.	Historic NY	Oct 2012	#52
and then NBC hits the campaign	littlewolf	Oct 2012	#54
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa	boyedav1969	Oct 2012	#65
This is within fair use	Anthony McCarthy	Oct 2012	#66
Not necessarily. See post number 61	onenote	Oct 2012	#76
Just saw this ad this morning :)	nc4bo	Oct 2012	#68
Who is NBC running for President this year? Buchanon (again)? Trump?	KurtNYC	Oct 2012	#69
3 words: Fair Use Doctrine. Oh, yeah, and two letters: F and U - n/t	coalition_unwilling	Oct 2012	#73
This post was hidden by jury decision.	littlemissmartypants	Oct 2012	#77
Threadjacking	JTFrog	Oct 2012	#90
Wrong thread. Stick to the subject, please. nt.	OldDem2012	Oct 2012	#92
Notice to GE: We, the people are taking back the airwaves-fuck your "full spectrum dominance"	bobthedrummer	Oct 2012	#81
....	DeSwiss	Oct 2012	#82
NBC is Doing Great!	demwing	Oct 2012	#83
I saw the ad on local station late this afternoon	Oilwellian	Oct 2012	#84
It's run four times in the first two ALDS games I've watched	jsmirman	Oct 2012	#86
Good. I don't want to see Andrea Greenspan's face in anything democratic as she	mfcorey1	Oct 2012	#88
While we're at it we should weaken the ridiculous copyright laws here anyway.	MessiahRp	Oct 2012	#89
Saw the ad again this morning. Good! Piss on NBC. nt.	OldDem2012	Oct 2012	#91