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Sun Oct 7, 2012, 01:51 AM

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1. Yes, let's turn them against medical practices which don't take Medicare!

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93 replies	Author	Time	Post
Time to put an end to summary executions and drone strikes in the Middle East. [View all]	Zalatix	Oct 2012	OP
Yes, let's turn them against medical practices which don't take Medicare!	jberryhill	Oct 2012	#1
Nah, how about turning them against patients who can't afford cash-only doctors?	Zalatix	Oct 2012	#2
Troll?	jberryhill	Oct 2012	#3
Your first post was an off-topic way over the top attack based on another thread. AKA Trolling.	Zalatix	Oct 2012	#4
How can it be a falsehood?	jberryhill	Oct 2012	#5
Because it IS a falsehood.	Zalatix	Oct 2012	#6
Weaseling?	jberryhill	Oct 2012	#7
More off-topic weaseling.	Zalatix	Oct 2012	#9
You'd probably use drones on off-topic weasels, too!	jberryhill	Oct 2012	#10
Going by your troll logic, I could say you'd probably vote Republican.	Zalatix	Oct 2012	#11
It can be proven false quite easily	jberryhill	Oct 2012	#12
That's not proof of how you vote at the ballot box. It is evidence, but not proof.	Zalatix	Oct 2012	#13
Yeah, unfortunately, I'm a complete nincompoop about law	jberryhill	Oct 2012	#14
I used to support the Hiroshima bombing due to the black and white logic of	Zalatix	Oct 2012	#22
Well, I do not support the bombing of Hiroshima	jberryhill	Oct 2012	#30
As I said downthread, moral right isn't the same as legal right.	Zalatix	Oct 2012	#32
No. It's you who won't listen to attorneys explain to you, yet again, that what you claim is not	msanthrope	Oct 2012	#17
It is NOT legally accurate. You are in fact quite wrong.	Zalatix	Oct 2012	#23
The law requires no trial of anyone for the president to launch nukes at will	jberryhill	Oct 2012	#34
My post was in reference to my stand on politics, not what the President's authority is.	Zalatix	Oct 2012	#39
Legal doesn't mean 'right'. And while lawyers may choose to simply accept bad laws and operate	sabrina 1	Oct 2012	#41
I think there is some confusion among some about my OP.	Zalatix	Oct 2012	#42
Um--when you conveniently forget the AUMF of 9/18/01, you indicate that you have no idea	msanthrope	Oct 2012	#51
Did you support Bush's invasion of Iraq?	sabrina 1	Oct 2012	#18
Ha, no I did not	jberryhill	Oct 2012	#27
Legal authority and moral authority are two different things.	Zalatix	Oct 2012	#29
Okay, then you can stop going on about the "illegality" of drone strikes	jberryhill	Oct 2012	#36
A drone strike, on a US citizen on US soil?	Zalatix	Oct 2012	#40
Then you must have loved Saddam Hussein, no?	sabrina 1	Oct 2012	#31
No	jberryhill	Oct 2012	#35
I'm not sure if you fully got the point of my OP.	Zalatix	Oct 2012	#43
So you agree, then, that you don't have a legal argument, but an emotional one? nt	msanthrope	Oct 2012	#54
My OP wasn't discussing the LEGALITY of it at all.	Zalatix	Oct 2012	#65
Take a look at the Gulf of Aden on a map. Now, what do you see? nt	msanthrope	Oct 2012	#68
I see Somalia and Pirate Alley	Zalatix	Oct 2012	#71
And what else? nt	msanthrope	Oct 2012	#74
Nothing that represents an invasion risk or an attack risk on the United States.	Zalatix	Oct 2012	#76
Look harder. nt	msanthrope	Oct 2012	#92
Ah, yes, the seafaring environmental activists of Somalia	jberryhill	Oct 2012	#85
If someone started dumping nuclear waste in America's waters and stealing our fish	Zalatix	Oct 2012	#89
People have done those things in American waters	jberryhill	Oct 2012	#91
"...aside to plunder resources."	EX500rider	Oct 2012	#72
Saddam Hussein was invaded because he planned to sell oil in Euros instead of dollars.	Zalatix	Oct 2012	#75
When the Euro is strong it would cost more..	EX500rider	Oct 2012	#77
Yes it is an example of plundering. WE INVADED A NATION to keep oil cheap!	Zalatix	Oct 2012	#78
Your mistake starts at "we."	JackRiddler	Oct 2012	#82
I was simply applying your logic to the situation. If you DON'T support one thing, then	sabrina 1	Oct 2012	#44
Wasn't there some leader of France	treestar	Oct 2012	#8
I am ok with that, when terrorists leaders put an end to summary executions	bluestate10	Oct 2012	#15
Then you agree with the tactics of terrorists. Do we solve murders by murdering them	sabrina 1	Oct 2012	#19
How is the AUMF of 9/18/01 not Constitutional? nt	msanthrope	Oct 2012	#21
So you support the Bush Doctrine then?	sabrina 1	Oct 2012	#37
I asked you a question. What is unconstitutional about the AUMF, passed by Congress? And, no. nt	msanthrope	Oct 2012	#49
I didn't support the AUMF and after seeing who voted for it, they never got my support	sabrina 1	Oct 2012	#60
The one of 2001, yes. The one of 2002, no. n t	msanthrope	Oct 2012	#61
Quote of the century. We don't beat terrorists by BECOMING terrorists.	Zalatix	Oct 2012	#24
I get all misty when someone uses the "T" word	wtmusic	Oct 2012	#69
Define Terrorist in a way that points to the Middle East's actions and not our military's...	Zalatix	Oct 2012	#80
I can't.	wtmusic	Oct 2012	#81
LOL sorry, that wasn't actually directed at YOU. It was intended to boost your point.	Zalatix	Oct 2012	#83
Crossing sovereign borders of countries with which we are not at war	woo me with science	Oct 2012	#16
I'd have been just fine with a drone strike to Bin Laden under Bush. You? nt	msanthrope	Oct 2012	#20
So let's say Afghanistan launches a drone to strike at American troops who killed civilians there?	Zalatix	Oct 2012	#25
You really think that's going to happen? nt	msanthrope	Oct 2012	#55
Of course not, we're the big bad global bully.	Zalatix	Oct 2012	#64
Your wish, and the American people's wish, to get Bin Laden	woo me with science	Oct 2012	#28
What justifies the drone strikes is the AUMF of 9/18/01, and the cooperation of the countries	msanthrope	Oct 2012	#53
My argument "fails" because you refuse to address it.	woo me with science	Oct 2012	#56
Woo, let's stop pretending that Pakistan isn't playing both sides of this game---	msanthrope	Oct 2012	#57
+1,000!	Zalatix	Oct 2012	#79
Don't you know? AUMF trumps all. Gives us authority to kill at will.	neverforget	Oct 2012	#84
No, I would not mainly because he was never even charged with being involved in 9/11.	sabrina 1	Oct 2012	#38
He was killed in Pakistan, not Afghanistan. nt	msanthrope	Oct 2012	#50
What has that got to do with my comment?	sabrina 1	Oct 2012	#59
You wrote about Afghanistan turning him over. They didn't have him....Pakistan did. nt	msanthrope	Oct 2012	#62
I wrote that in response to your statement that you would have supported Bush	sabrina 1	Oct 2012	#63
OBL was in Pakistan for most of the Bush presidency. But I would have supported a drone strike in	msanthrope	Oct 2012	#67
OBL was in Afghanistan when the Taliban made the offer to hand him over.	sabrina 1	Oct 2012	#87
Wait a minute--Are you doubting that OBL did 9/11?? You don't think OBL did 9/11?	msanthrope	Oct 2012	#93
This message was self-deleted by its author	sabrina 1	Oct 2012	#58
But..but..we're murdering them for their own good..to spread democracy and stuff.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Oct 2012	#26
Bingo.	Zalatix	Oct 2012	#33
Is there an advantage to addressing this issue now as opposed to 1 month from now? (nt)	Nye Bevan	Oct 2012	#45
Nope. In fact I'll be sure to address this issue at the proper time.	Zalatix	Oct 2012	#48
Maybe for the people who will be blown to smithereens between now and then	wtmusic	Oct 2012	#70
Dead children don't know how to wait until after the election?	Puregonzo1188	Oct 2012	#73
Next month it will not be useful to advance the "they're all the same" thing	jberryhill	Oct 2012	#86
Yes, for those who will be the victims of more drone attacks between now and then.	sabrina 1	Oct 2012	#88
Some Americans are expressing what you're saying, but will take louder voices, more outraged	sad sally	Oct 2012	#46
Code Pink! I know their donation URL almost by heart.	Zalatix	Oct 2012	#66
Let's just get the hell out of the ME and leave them to thier own devices.	Whovian	Oct 2012	#47
The drone attacks are fuking stupid.	darkangel218	Oct 2012	#52
No.	sagat	Oct 2012	#90

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