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Ya this is what we really need at this time on DU awake Oct 2012 #1
I think all he'll do is ann--- Oct 2012 #2
Jeez, at the rate we're going w/age increase, it won't be long before it's 70, 75. Why not 80? nc4bo Oct 2012 #3
Give those mother fers time they will get there. The dems aren't any more honest then the repubs. southernyankeebelle Oct 2012 #60
Raising the retirement age is not acceptable policy but rather a massive effective cut TheKentuckian Oct 2012 #30
Your 4th paragraph ChazII Oct 2012 #181
Excellent! Le Taz Hot Oct 2012 #202
Raising retirement age, and Medicare eligibility age = mass murder n/t eridani Oct 2012 #58
Stalin would be proud. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2012 #76
regardless of your snark, it will kill people. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #106
Who said it is snark? He killed about 3 million, irrc, we have about 80 million jtuck004 Oct 2012 #108
apologies then. i thought it was snark. and in fact, most of the folk who died under stalin HiPointDem Oct 2012 #112
This is extremely dangerous, and even the people who want so desperately to jtuck004 Oct 2012 #115
no, just 'the law'. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #120
To hell with raising the age abelenkpe Oct 2012 #251
"All he'll do is . . . raise the retirement age" OrwellwasRight Oct 2012 #293
of course now is the time. after the election we have no leverage. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #18
Just curious, but what "leverage" do you think you have now?... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #23
'Neither party is going to discuss this topic before the election.' = oh really? and why is that, i HiPointDem Oct 2012 #25
Why don't you ask the candidates? nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #78
I don't have to. There's only one possible answer. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #82
Yes, and I told you what that answer will be, whether we like it or not. nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #88
Yes. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #92
Who is running who then? You're argument is we choose masters rather than representatives. TheKentuckian Oct 2012 #36
Yes, I've been a registered Democrat since I was old enough to vote back in 1970... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #75
Democracy is far older than you and yes it seems the truth is a problem for you. TheKentuckian Oct 2012 #356
We can make it politically untenable to cut Social Security. OrwellwasRight Oct 2012 #294
Thank you for a great post that sums it all up. woo me with science Oct 2012 #302
I like it as well Oilwellian Oct 2012 #306
Thanks! OrwellwasRight Oct 2012 #338
Sadly, I thought the name would be less relevant OrwellwasRight Oct 2012 #337
We have less leverage than ever, right now. w4rma Oct 2012 #31
social security is a sideshow to other issues? that's bs. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #37
With 56% of November's electorate age 55 and over? eridani Oct 2012 #59
It is not that SS in not a issue it is that Medicare is a better battle field to fight on awake Oct 2012 #65
Both are important eridani Oct 2012 #66
I am not saying Both are not important awake Oct 2012 #72
We don't have time to wait. The "grand bargain" may be struck within weeks of the election... tokenlib Oct 2012 #91
All the more reason to stop Mitt from being elected awake Oct 2012 #98
We must do both..too many dems are open to a Simpson-Bowle-SHIT" "grand bargain." tokenlib Oct 2012 #103
+1 HiPointDem Oct 2012 #104
bull. what use is medical care if you're homeless? HiPointDem Oct 2012 #100
You have it exactly backwards. hay rick Oct 2012 #243
Aww, tama Oct 2012 #20
^^This^^ kurtzapril4 Oct 2012 #69
Too true Blecht Oct 2012 #241
Thanks, awake; you've got a good sense of proportion an timing. elleng Oct 2012 #29
I see a lot of right wingers lately posting on this board Iliyah Oct 2012 #68
There is no fearmongering involved here, only a reality check. Zalatix Oct 2012 #144
so you don't care that they raise the retirement age because you already are recieving ss? me b zola Oct 2012 #189
Right Welcme to DU! goclark Oct 2012 #32
Thanks guys awake Oct 2012 #73
Welcome. awake! freshwest Oct 2012 #308
I agree, let's not get into attack out of fear mode flamingdem Oct 2012 #43
Like hell we don't know. Raising the FICA cap and setting the initial benefits eridani Oct 2012 #253
Why dont you make a listing of what we may or may not discuss. nm rhett o rick Oct 2012 #52
Yes! I would very much love to see a list of what is forbidden speech. nm kurtzapril4 Oct 2012 #70
What should concern us all woo me with science Oct 2012 #204
Well said. hay rick Oct 2012 #227
exactly. Imagine the "outrage" if Romney is in office pasto76 Oct 2012 #64
If you are one of the "tweakees" to be "tweaked" it is a worry RIGHT NOW!! tokenlib Oct 2012 #86
May I suggest a name change? march starling Oct 2012 #123
No this is not a game awake Oct 2012 #131
No one said anything about not voting OrwellwasRight Oct 2012 #295
Ditto. Not now. We know the philosophies & policies of the 2 parties. We don't need Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #213
Wrong, defending Social Security strenuously, is a WINNING election tactic and everyone sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #229
I trust Sen Sanders--- fredamae Oct 2012 #4
My thinking is with Axelrod. What will be the balance of the House/Senate starting 2013? Ninga Oct 2012 #5
We are going to get a bi-partisan f*cking, absolutely, no doubt about it. Teamster Jeff Oct 2012 #6
Congress is ultimately responsible for this bigtree Oct 2012 #7
Seriously, what's the point? ProSense Oct 2012 #9
There have been major differences between the parties on Social Security TheKentuckian Oct 2012 #44
We absolutely deserve to know. kentuck Oct 2012 #133
Hold your tongues, knaves! Just send us your tributes! Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #8
You're worried about Obama's plan for Social Security?? Do you know what Romney's REAL plan is? JaneyVee Oct 2012 #10
Ah, but see, the beauty of scaring off Obama voters is that glorious revolution by the workers! freshwest Oct 2012 #309
From the Obama TRUTH TEAM: Comrade_McKenzie Oct 2012 #11
+1 "under no circumstances" will he privatize social security K8-EEE Oct 2012 #13
privatization is a red herring. cuts are the danger. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #19
With Romney + teabaggers we would be starting on the road to "private accounts" a la GWB and FAST K8-EEE Oct 2012 #94
There won't be enough time after the election to get mobilized..the "grand bargain" is coming... tokenlib Oct 2012 #113
Look, you're right. uberblonde Oct 2012 #290
We saved you from privatization, now eat your catfood. hay rick Oct 2012 #245
and 'for now' is the operative phrase. it's a steady process of boiling the frog. for 30 years. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #250
All they need to do is raise the cap, problem solved, yet no one brings that up still_one Oct 2012 #56
Or they can pay back the $1.7 trillion BushCo embezzled from the SS fund. savannah43 Oct 2012 #273
That was actually one of the things the Simpsons Bowles commission said to do. Sirveri Oct 2012 #275
Obama is not to be trusted, which ProSense Oct 2012 #15
What are you saying, Obama is lying? still_one Oct 2012 #57
Obama is good person who may think "a grand bargain" best for the country.. tokenlib Oct 2012 #99
He's a fool if he thinks that. alarimer Oct 2012 #134
No, I'm saying this ProSense Oct 2012 #145
The decisions were made long ago. girl gone mad Oct 2012 #333
Any article that uses the word "consigliere" is immediately suspect, imo frazzled Oct 2012 #12
I'm proud and determined to take no prisoners and go for the jugular on this. TheKentuckian Oct 2012 #77
Because I believe the promise that has been made frazzled Oct 2012 #84
Obviously you missed the administration's clever word game on "cut" versus "slash" woo me with science Oct 2012 #129
Oh, it's you. Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #14
kr. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #16
You people have heard enough about Social Security. Fumesucker Oct 2012 #17
Indeed. woo me with science Oct 2012 #200
recommended quinnox Oct 2012 #21
"stop asking questions and just vote damnit" ProSense Oct 2012 #22
Tama's post #20 said it much more cleverly and quinnox Oct 2012 #24
To me this issue is of no help to our cause awake Oct 2012 #26
what is 'our cause' then? HiPointDem Oct 2012 #27
Our cause is to awake Oct 2012 #33
i am happy to elect democrats that will enact & protect democratic policies. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #38
did someone appoint you as discussion monitor or something? quinnox Oct 2012 #41
why do you always talk using "we" and "our" quinnox Oct 2012 #34
I am sorry if my use of "we" or "our" offends you awake Oct 2012 #49
but...what if other people still want to discuss it? quinnox Oct 2012 #48
ATTENTION, Third Way calendar watchers! woo me with science Oct 2012 #28
Or we can remove the cap on the level of income that SS tax is applied awake Oct 2012 #40
The problem is all the positive comments about "Simpson-Bowle-shit"..they've telegraphed too much... tokenlib Oct 2012 #111
you forgot to throw a "truthy to power!" in there snooper2 Oct 2012 #224
Thank you dflprincess Oct 2012 #238
Busted. n/t rudycantfail Oct 2012 #248
Most excellent n/t Oilwellian Oct 2012 #307
Obama's going after social security again, eh? jberryhill Oct 2012 #35
This time, for sure...nt SidDithers Oct 2012 #74
Surprised he has the time, what with fighting against equality and all jberryhill Oct 2012 #175
He just sucks at it. Robb Oct 2012 #119
LOL. DevonRex Oct 2012 #152
So you're equally sure that Obama doesn't want the Bush tax cuts to expire for the 1%? MannyGoldstein Oct 2012 #237
Yes, I am a horrid person who supports an equally horrid candidate jberryhill Oct 2012 #249
You won't get screwed. Current and almost there retirees are a protected class. Luminous Animal Oct 2012 #272
Well I'm the kinda guy who pulls the ladder up behind him jberryhill Oct 2012 #274
I want this issue discussed by Obama BEFORE I vote. 99Forever Oct 2012 #39
Oh? you might want to reread our terms of service awake Oct 2012 #42
I'll highlight... Teamster Jeff Oct 2012 #47
You will be happy to know that I do not see my self as a awake Oct 2012 #53
TOS Xedniw Oct 2012 #276
. blue neen Oct 2012 #51
I didn't ... 99Forever Oct 2012 #89
Well, you basically stated that you may or may not vote for the President. blue neen Oct 2012 #132
Thanks for permission. 99Forever Oct 2012 #137
Who the fuck died and made you Le Taz Hot Oct 2012 #205
Weird. You're the second poster I've seen use the term "binary thinkers". blue neen Oct 2012 #324
I've used the term for decades. Le Taz Hot Oct 2012 #349
Really? lonestarnot Oct 2012 #46
Are you encouraging people not to vote by way of foot stomp? lonestarnot Oct 2012 #50
Do you always put words in other peoples mouths? 99Forever Oct 2012 #93
What about encouraging people to walk and chew gum at the same time? Would that be OK? eridani Oct 2012 #255
N. s. lonestarnot Oct 2012 #292
You must have the archaic notion that your vote belongs to you rather than to a politcian. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #71
Yes I know... 99Forever Oct 2012 #85
I wouldn't CthulhusEvilCousin Oct 2012 #95
I want to hear it directly... 99Forever Oct 2012 #102
His payroll tax "holiday" has harmed it. n/t dflprincess Oct 2012 #239
LOL. Please VOTE FOR ROMNEY.. seriously. Because I think THEIR plans are really awesome. nt progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #118
I've never said I would ... 99Forever Oct 2012 #136
You did say that you might not vote for the President. blue neen Oct 2012 #171
"leave the top of the ticket blank " NCTraveler Oct 2012 #315
Voting. For President Obama. It's fun. blue neen Oct 2012 #323
No it is not. I fully agree. nt NCTraveler Oct 2012 #325
Well...it won't be. So keep wishing. randome Oct 2012 #172
You misplaced this steaming pile. n/t 99Forever Oct 2012 #188
K & R! lonestarnot Oct 2012 #45
If Obama does anything with social security, it will benefit us...not hurt us. If Rob-me gets hold judesedit Oct 2012 #54
Well, like Obama said in the debate... Oilwellian Oct 2012 #55
I think that is a discussion that belongs to the American people Autumn Oct 2012 #61
Yeah, Bernie is the best--may he be blessed with great health and a long life!! tokenlib Oct 2012 #116
There is probably going to be an attempt to fuck with Social Security regardless of the election tularetom Oct 2012 #62
We drown in bullshit propaganda, lies, and deceptions. woo me with science Oct 2012 #63
You drown DU in propaganda, lies, and deception emulatorloo Oct 2012 #67
Perhaps the problem lies with our President. Autumn Oct 2012 #79
Did you think that maybe Obama was baiting Romoney awake Oct 2012 #83
I don't fucking play games and have no use for that shit. If you are posting that for Obama Autumn Oct 2012 #97
Was he "baiting Romney" when... Oilwellian Oct 2012 #101
Woo and Goldstein have been pushing this bullshit "secret plan" emulatorloo Oct 2012 #138
Read what Axelrod said and re watch the debate and hear what Autumn Oct 2012 #142
The problem is Woo NEVER goes after Republican in his posts emulatorloo Oct 2012 #146
Look. We are intelligent liberals. We know republicans. Autumn Oct 2012 #155
You are right, there is no need to fight emulatorloo Oct 2012 #167
I think we are all a little tired and a little touchy. Autumn Oct 2012 #173
. . . emulatorloo Oct 2012 #174
This exactly. Bobbie Jo Oct 2012 #87
What about Obama's Grand Bargain... Oilwellian Oct 2012 #105
No, that was a bluff to EXPOSE BOEHNER was not serious about deficit reduction. emulatorloo Oct 2012 #149
A bluff? Really? What are you basing that opinion on? Oilwellian Oct 2012 #209
Thank you. I am sick to death of those who are willing to put blinders on until it is way too sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #353
Name the "propaganda, lies and deception" Le Taz Hot Oct 2012 #208
+100000 dionysus Oct 2012 #320
This is what we do after the election.. Larkspur Oct 2012 #80
"I’ll tell you what, when you get elected to the United States Senate and sit at that table" Axelrod jtuck004 Oct 2012 #81
Nice awake Oct 2012 #90
You think killing millions of seniors is a prize? What a pathetic, ill-thought out opinion. jtuck004 Oct 2012 #96
No awake Oct 2012 #107
Who is the enemy when we are sending $40 billion a month to wealthy people so their jtuck004 Oct 2012 #148
Beautiful, important post. Thank you. woo me with science Oct 2012 #201
An Excellent Post...! Thank you....because that fills in the details about Bailing out the Banks KoKo Oct 2012 #316
It really bothers me. People are losing their homes, seniors were told their equity would jtuck004 Oct 2012 #334
Nice post from you about our Economy and Stock Market...and how much we don't know..and KoKo Oct 2012 #339
It is the responsibility of the people in a democracy to hold public servants accountable. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #151
Axelrod is the one you should "admonish"..for sounding like "Willard" with his "quiet room" comment. tokenlib Oct 2012 #124
THANK YOU. This should be the response by every citizen who is *EVER* woo me with science Oct 2012 #121
Uh huh. AtomicKitten Oct 2012 #109
awesome post arely staircase Oct 2012 #110
56 & over = a majority of the electorate. SS is an important issue; I don't understand why HiPointDem Oct 2012 #114
it is a very important issue to me - one of the main reasons i am a democrat and an obama arely staircase Oct 2012 #128
Then I think we should be able to discuss it. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #222
I'm sorry that you think Obama's White House Senior Adviser sucks. Autumn Oct 2012 #117
here is the truth - and it bothers me not one bit. arely staircase Oct 2012 #130
Obama and the Democrats need to CLEARLY be pro social security. Autumn Oct 2012 #139
well, they are arely staircase Oct 2012 #298
The problem might be solved in your mind Autumn Oct 2012 #299
please, by all means continue to worry over non-existent things. here in the reality based community arely staircase Oct 2012 #350
Well bless your heart arely. It's good you feel so positive about things. Autumn Oct 2012 #354
positive? hell i am fired up! arely staircase Oct 2012 #355
I can not help but think that this issue will backfire awake Oct 2012 #122
If this issue backfires, it will be Obamas and Axelrods fault. Autumn Oct 2012 #127
Election night, DU 2004. The Great Reveal emulatorloo Oct 2012 #140
I see some at this time that are masked very poorly Autumn Oct 2012 #143
Sorry no - that's not how it works. "Pot Stirrers" emulatorloo Oct 2012 #150
Okay. So, Axelrods words are projecting republican policies onto Democrats. Autumn Oct 2012 #163
He said in the debate he had a version of Simpson-Bowles in front of congress. I wonder if this is dkf Oct 2012 #125
When I read the piece here about Peter G. Peterson, I finally understood. LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #126
Authoritarians attempt to breed passivity in those they control. woo me with science Oct 2012 #135
What do you propose? LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #141
"If I have to take half a loaf or none, I'll take the half." woo me with science Oct 2012 #154
NOT BEING PASSIVE!!! LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #158
Ah, the Third Way bids for passivity. Textbook. woo me with science Oct 2012 #177
Lot of words and no substance. LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #180
Voting is not enough all by itself anymore, and voting is absolutely NOT the only voice we have. woo me with science Oct 2012 #183
Just a critique. LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #184
If this weren't such familiar, textbook spin, woo me with science Oct 2012 #185
"There is no alternative" tama Oct 2012 #263
and the alternative is much MUCH FUCKING WORSE, so howzabout we stop enabling it? nt LaydeeBug Oct 2012 #147
It is the reponsibility of the people in a democracy to hold public servants accountable. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #153
Yes and if your elected "servant" is not elected or reelected awake Oct 2012 #156
Obama is the public servant in question at this time. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #194
Maybe you and Woo can provide me a list of Democrats in the House and Senate emulatorloo Oct 2012 #157
Well, let's start with the Senators who didn't sign the letter opposing Soc Sec cuts.... tokenlib Oct 2012 #160
And yet we have a problem when Republicans take the 'Norquist' pledge. randome Oct 2012 #162
At least we know where the Norquest pledge signers stand--they make better targets.. tokenlib Oct 2012 #165
Not signing something is evidence of nothing. randome Oct 2012 #170
Right. Because a 'discussion' with 300 million people will certainly clear things up. randome Oct 2012 #159
Actually, no, tama Oct 2012 #264
You've cried wolf so many times on SS we're laughing DevonRex Oct 2012 #161
bless their little hearts, they try so, so hard... dionysus Oct 2012 #321
I'd love one!! DevonRex Oct 2012 #327
The campaign cleaned up the confusion last night kentuck Oct 2012 #164
They cleaned it up with holes large enough to drive a "Simpson-Bowles" bannered semi through.... tokenlib Oct 2012 #168
That is not a cleanup. Those words are disturbing as hell. woo me with science Oct 2012 #179
The President's "consigliere"? lolz JNelson6563 Oct 2012 #166
Thanks Julie..now this Cha Oct 2012 #169
Instead of insulting those who raise concerns--a little respect for their positions would be welcome tokenlib Oct 2012 #176
So I'll put you down as "OK with the Godfather comparison." DevonRex Oct 2012 #195
No I don't get it... tokenlib Oct 2012 #203
The term is in the link. Credibility lost. Nt DevonRex Oct 2012 #220
You seem so eager to just diss me... tokenlib Oct 2012 #223
He's right, he could propose the most enlightened plan in the world Warpy Oct 2012 #178
I enjoy the new "transparency" system at DU. mzmolly Oct 2012 #182
Is this supposed to be some bizarre version of "Are you now or have you ever been..."? woo me with science Oct 2012 #186
I have a problem with people here not supporting the Democratic mzmolly Oct 2012 #187
Oh kewl! 99Forever Oct 2012 #190
No. Just the reminder police. This IS a discussion board for those supportive of Democrats mzmolly Oct 2012 #193
Good bye. 99Forever Oct 2012 #196
Cheerio. mzmolly Oct 2012 #198
There is voting for Democrats period. And then there is voting for Democrats comma. eridani Oct 2012 #258
It's pretty clear what the DU TOS says - mzmolly Oct 2012 #284
You can have your lockstep.. girl gone mad Oct 2012 #335
DU has been a "viable discussion board" mzmolly Oct 2012 #336
Well, that was ugly beyond words. woo me with science Oct 2012 #191
Oh. mzmolly Oct 2012 #192
No she should not. Transparency is here for a DevonRex Oct 2012 #197
Exactly. n/t FSogol Oct 2012 #199
Thank you DevonRex. mzmolly Oct 2012 #232
Perhaps you don't get it tama Oct 2012 #265
Actually it's how this board works. mzmolly Oct 2012 #283
Actually not tama Oct 2012 #287
Skinner has clarified his position on numerous occasions. I quoted him, specifically in my sig line. mzmolly Oct 2012 #289
Don't worry, I will carry on tama Oct 2012 #291
You can toss out laughable analogies about abuse of authority if you wish. mzmolly Oct 2012 #296
My question is more general tama Oct 2012 #297
This message was self-deleted by its author woo me with science Oct 2012 #301
Politics is "us against them." mzmolly Oct 2012 #303
I'm sorry you see it that way. tama Oct 2012 #305
When we vote on Novemeber 6th, it's for Obama or Romney. mzmolly Oct 2012 #329
In that sense tama Oct 2012 #331
I suggest finding a discussion board that isn't so mzmolly Oct 2012 #332
I love you woo, but Cherchez la Femme Oct 2012 #211
Expecting, and voicing the expectation, that Democrats will not attack Social Security benefits woo me with science Oct 2012 #217
Oh, I completely agree Cherchez la Femme Oct 2012 #219
Define purity in terms of electoral outcome. mzmolly Oct 2012 #233
Ah, the Electoral Outcome triteness... Cherchez la Femme Oct 2012 #236
Romney winning is trite? mzmolly Oct 2012 #285
"...list?" What is this "list?" "Please be careful" you warn and then mention "purity." KoKo Oct 2012 #317
It's a great feature NoGOPZone Oct 2012 #216
Tis mzmolly Oct 2012 #218
This is one of the most disgusting things... Oilwellian Oct 2012 #221
A high complement, considering the source. mzmolly Oct 2012 #230
Damn, you really let your authoritarian flag fly quinnox Oct 2012 #225
Ha ha ha ha ha. mzmolly Oct 2012 #228
Thanks for the opportunity tama Oct 2012 #266
Whatever the F mzmolly Oct 2012 #282
Wow! That was very enlightning! MannyGoldstein Oct 2012 #244
FDR is dead. mzmolly Oct 2012 #286
I personally do not like that statement. I want to know IF I have to work until I'm 70 or 80. diabeticman Oct 2012 #206
I wouldn't want Obama to veto any bill that extends retirement age. bluestate10 Oct 2012 #234
And how bloody convenient it is that people get jobs right out of school and stay eridani Oct 2012 #260
This should explain it all....don't worry! ann--- Oct 2012 #207
K & R Le Taz Hot Oct 2012 #210
So how about you join in giving him a House and Senate Skidmore Oct 2012 #212
I know their plan. porphyrian Oct 2012 #214
remember woo: 'In times like these people have to watch what they say and watch what they do'. KG Oct 2012 #215
more like, "don't be a douchebag and campaign against dems at the end of a presidential campaign" dionysus Oct 2012 #347
The plans are exactly what they have always been.. and-justice-for-all Oct 2012 #226
"...and I will not believe otherwise." rudycantfail Oct 2012 #246
A chained CPI and hike in the retirement age, minimum. MadHound Oct 2012 #231
Rep. Conyers: Obama Demanded Social Security Cuts--Not GOP MannyGoldstein Oct 2012 #235
here's the thing shanti Oct 2012 #240
For 20 years we've been accepting Democrats behaving very badly MannyGoldstein Oct 2012 #242
Fourth way? nt hay rick Oct 2012 #256
"i plan to leave it alone now and hammer obama after he gets elected" rudycantfail Oct 2012 #247
Glad there are still some of us FDR/New Deal democrats who aren't just going to "go along" with cuts tokenlib Oct 2012 #259
That looks ProSense Oct 2012 #271
Is it less true today then before? nt MannyGoldstein Oct 2012 #288
I HEAR YOU WOO ME Skittles Oct 2012 #252
:) woo me with science Oct 2012 #343
Good thread. I think SS needs to he debated. Rather have debate with Obama Hoyt Oct 2012 #254
Could you (and everyone on this thread who does so) quit using bullshit terminology like eridani Oct 2012 #261
As an eventual "tweakee", your presentation is absolutely where we should stand.. tokenlib Oct 2012 #262
As a current tweakee, I'd like the discussion. I also like increased FICA cap and increased benefits Hoyt Oct 2012 #270
Unfortunately "simpleton" approaches and trying to put everything into simple boxes/questions Hoyt Oct 2012 #269
So, how do you decide who "certain people" are? eridani Oct 2012 #280
I am elderly, but I'm willing to discuss ways of improving Hoyt Oct 2012 #300
Chained CPI dosn't improve jackshit for anyone eridani Oct 2012 #310
I really don't care to waste my time trying to explain it to you. You won't get it. Hoyt Oct 2012 #311
I get that you think getting slowly poorer with each advancing year is wonderful for old folks eridani Oct 2012 #312
I don't think I'll get slowly "poorer" from chained-cpi. I do think we'll get poorer if we don't Hoyt Oct 2012 #313
Helping the 1% fuck over the 99% doesn't bring any kind of change I want eridani Oct 2012 #340
I will be depending on SS for damn near all my retirement income, but that means I'm dependent on Hoyt Oct 2012 #342
There is a SocSec Trust Fund in surplus to the tune of a couple of trillion, invested in T-bills eridani Oct 2012 #346
Great Points...! Hope folks will read as this thread is getting longer... KoKo Oct 2012 #318
Raise the damn cap! TexasBushwhacker Oct 2012 #257
I agree with this proposal but if we bring it up now awake Oct 2012 #268
Rmoney's campaign refuses to tell voters that he will get rid of the home mfcorey1 Oct 2012 #267
How President Obama and Mitt Romney compare on preserving Social Security for America’s seniors ProSense Oct 2012 #277
Obama loved and respected his grandparents and his mother - hedgehog Oct 2012 #278
His Mother had to battle insurance companies as she was dying from cancer. Autumn Oct 2012 #279
She did have health insurance. Beacool Oct 2012 #314
If enough Dems get elected.. stillcool Oct 2012 #281
Never liked Axeltod, nor Plouffe for that matter. Beacool Oct 2012 #304
WHOAAAA.. now.. where have YOU been young lady? carousing, i assume... dionysus Oct 2012 #322
Banky!!!! Beacool Oct 2012 #328
you know i wouldn't miss out on your appearances, however rare... dionysus Oct 2012 #344
It's going OK. Beacool Oct 2012 #345
Well...they are good at what they do as Political Operatives...BUT..are they good for the Rest of Us KoKo Oct 2012 #341
then take your bullshit to the old elm tree where it belongs. nt. dionysus Oct 2012 #319
What a thoughtful response! MannyGoldstein Oct 2012 #351
+1 n/t progree Oct 2012 #352
He needs a Democratic Senate. This is one way to say "make it so, or bad things CAN happen", a.k.a.. patrice Oct 2012 #326
The more you make what happens all about the top/king/daddy/power/authority & NOT about us the more patrice Oct 2012 #330
Meh... Javaman Oct 2012 #348
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