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Yes.... skeewee08 Oct 2012 #1
The ... usually means you have more info. Which of course you left out. Logical Oct 2012 #28
I usually err on the side of caution. sadbear Oct 2012 #2
No. n/t Iris Oct 2012 #3
They're not adults. Warpy Oct 2012 #4
I dislike this whole "trying them as an adult" concept. Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #5
And release the murdering juvenile in five years Brewinblue Oct 2012 #17
I wish... Lucy Goosey Oct 2012 #23
I'm not sure that is the choice. Recent studies have found juveniles are punished MORE harshly Iris Oct 2012 #36
Problem is the average adult time served (10-12 years)... TheMadMonk Oct 2012 #47
I suspect that's because victims of adult killers tend to be less sympathetic ButterflyBlood Oct 2012 #67
I think your example of a woman killing an abusive husband is faulty. Iris Oct 2012 #71
How about an 11 year old psychopath? A 10 year old psychopath? Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #41
Yet if they are truly a psychopath, they are beyond help Drahthaardogs Oct 2012 #121
Call me a bleeding heart liberal if you like, Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #122
Agreed. A human life has been taken. Is that any less offensive because the murderer is 13? CakeGrrl Oct 2012 #49
Exactly. Iris Oct 2012 #72
Agreed GreenPartyVoter Oct 2012 #114
Now you stay classy, you hear? march starling Oct 2012 #115
Thanks. You are correct. I have edited my post to remove the profanity. Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #116
I'm a firm believer that if they are too young to sign legal contracts DJ13 Oct 2012 #6
+1 josh3693 Oct 2012 #14
Absolutely not! Betsy Ross Oct 2012 #7
"Tried as adults" means "possible death penalty" in many states. porphyrian Oct 2012 #8
Not anymore Nevernose Oct 2012 #128
Yes. Grave Grumbler Oct 2012 #9
LOL, thanks for the detailed analysis. I am convinced now. Logical Oct 2012 #27
That's why I'm here. Grave Grumbler Oct 2012 #31
Usually no, but... josh3693 Oct 2012 #10
It Depends... WillyT Oct 2012 #11
No! Agnosticsherbet Oct 2012 #12
might be a reason for it. former-republican Oct 2012 #56
They should be tried as children, even if that requires they be set free Agnosticsherbet Oct 2012 #63
13 , 14 ,15 years old that murder people in cold blood former-republican Oct 2012 #70
Absolutely treestar Oct 2012 #86
These children were created by their society... Agnosticsherbet Oct 2012 #93
It's even more horrifying to have a kid killing than an adult treestar Oct 2012 #95
Try living in an inners city in deep poverty... Agnosticsherbet Oct 2012 #99
I'm not talking about that, I agree on that treestar Oct 2012 #100
sometimes there is no better way former-republican Oct 2012 #140
13, 14, and 15 year old children are not physically, mentally, emotionally, or psychologically Agnosticsherbet Oct 2012 #89
yeah but, at 13, one knows that its wrong to... MURDER AN OLD LADY WITH A FUCKING HATCHET! dionysus Oct 2012 #91
15 or 25 is not a few. morningfog Oct 2012 #135
Maybe not mature, but definitely broken. sir pball Oct 2012 #82
I did not say innate goodnes...there is no evidence of that in the universe. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2012 #92
I don't think it's *always* nurture sir pball Oct 2012 #112
I don't think it's *always* nurture sir pball Oct 2012 #113
More like thirty or forty, according to some--and I think there's some validity there. MADem Oct 2012 #110
It is really easy to screw up a child... Agnosticsherbet Oct 2012 #117
I think we should work to change the fate of at-risk kids, but once they MADem Oct 2012 #125
Maybe bluestateguy Oct 2012 #13
No. JaneyVee Oct 2012 #15
I strongly disagree with adult sentencing of (miGod!) 13 year-olds. Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #16
I worked with a 13 year old who tried to shoot his Grandma HockeyMom Oct 2012 #18
Age of reason... Lightbulb_on Oct 2012 #19
Yes, but not with a mandatory life sentence with no chance of parole. mrmpa Oct 2012 #20
So 40 years would be OK with you? Jesus, people dont get it. Logical Oct 2012 #29
What aren't I getting? mrmpa Oct 2012 #33
So a "hard 40" sentence, in kansas, means 40 years with no parole. You think the kid getting out... Logical Oct 2012 #39
Yes AND no. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #88
A century or more ago, fifteen year olds were working full time as a matter of routine. MADem Oct 2012 #103
I think that is true as well. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #105
As I said downthread, lock 'em up. MADem Oct 2012 #109
I think we are on the same page about this. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #119
So if they are found not guilty are they still an adult? Drive? Drink? Etc? Logical Oct 2012 #108
I don't know what you mean. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #118
No. And I don't think the DP should be an option. Taverner Oct 2012 #21
They shouldn't be tried as adults, but should receive the same sentence that an adult would slackmaster Oct 2012 #22
Well if you're going to sentence them as adults then what the hell is the point? eqfan592 Oct 2012 #59
You treat the defendant as a child during the trial, and while incarcerated until age 18 slackmaster Oct 2012 #79
But when it comes to murdering other people treestar Oct 2012 #85
No aint_no_life_nowhere Oct 2012 #24
Why? Lightbulb_on Oct 2012 #37
Do you think a 5 year old doesn't know that it's wrong to hatchet an old woman to death? nt greyl Oct 2012 #44
They don't - at least not like an adult aint_no_life_nowhere Oct 2012 #46
Biggest bullshit question that can be asked when talking about this issue. eqfan592 Oct 2012 #61
I don't claim that they have it in all things... Lightbulb_on Oct 2012 #73
Are they afforded the same rights as adults? Shankapotomus Oct 2012 #25
No. rug Oct 2012 #26
Being 13 is not an excuse for what they did, its a mitigating factor to consider. 1-Old-Man Oct 2012 #30
A 13 year old isn't an adult ohheckyeah Oct 2012 #32
Well, since the AREN'T adults, I'd say no. Laffy Kat Oct 2012 #34
In this scenario, hell yes! NotThisTime Oct 2012 #35
No. Pithlet Oct 2012 #38
No, I don't think a 13-year-old should be tried as an adult fishwax Oct 2012 #40
No. They're not adults. Brickbat Oct 2012 #42
I don't think a 13 yr old should EVER be tried as an adult, MH1 Oct 2012 #43
Do they have to be released by law? former-republican Oct 2012 #57
Children should be tried as children. On the other hand, I don't think that the juvenile justice... JVS Oct 2012 #45
I am glad i do not have to make that choice. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #48
For capital crimes, yes. Someone who killed an old woman with a hatchet cannot be reformed. Pacafishmate Oct 2012 #50
If they are old enough to drive,vote, consent for sex, buy alcohol,sign a contract then hell yes Douglas Carpenter Oct 2012 #51
Depends on the offense. In this case yes they should. dkf Oct 2012 #52
They should be charged as adults Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #53
No. OriginalGeek Oct 2012 #54
There are a circumstances which we do not have the answers to Savannahmann Oct 2012 #55
International Juvenile Justice Practices Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #58
they look like stoners =dont know where being under the influence would fit in lunasun Oct 2012 #60
Yes. Absolutely. nt Skip Intro Oct 2012 #62
NO. Th1onein Oct 2012 #64
I think the age to be tried as an adult should be lowered, but no one under that tried as an adult ButterflyBlood Oct 2012 #65
Axe murderers are irredeemable trash. geek tragedy Oct 2012 #66
Never. If they were capable of being adults they would have the rights and responsibilities as such TheKentuckian Oct 2012 #68
15-20, 13years to 18/21 served.... rppper Oct 2012 #69
Heinousness and excusablity seem like separate issues from trial in adult court to me... HereSince1628 Oct 2012 #74
A refreshingly logical position aint_no_life_nowhere Oct 2012 #123
No. A 13 year old is a child. What if the perpertrators had be 9? cali Oct 2012 #75
For me it depends on the depth of premeditation and response after aikoaiko Oct 2012 #76
No in my opinion. aandegoons Oct 2012 #77
NO Brainstormy Oct 2012 #78
Definitely they s/b tried as adults. 13 is old enough to know NOT TO HATCHET PEOPLE! valerief Oct 2012 #80
No. Thier brains are not yet developed to the point of an adults brain. Whovian Oct 2012 #81
They say the brain isn't fully developed until age 25. Union Scribe Oct 2012 #97
You can defer to the wisdom of Ron Paul tjwash Oct 2012 #83
When it comes to murder, yes treestar Oct 2012 #84
My take on it Aerows Oct 2012 #87
Is there a link for this story? nt TBF Oct 2012 #90
Yes, on a case-by-case basis. Union Scribe Oct 2012 #94
Some kids are obvious proto-Psychopaths that can't be rehabilitated. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #96
No. proud2BlibKansan Oct 2012 #98
Teen psychopaths will still be psychopaths at 25. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #106
Works for me. Those kids can't be fixed. nt MADem Oct 2012 #101
No. Iggo Oct 2012 #102
I prefer the accused, especially juviniles, be called accused until they are tried. Bluenorthwest Oct 2012 #104
No. Unless you think they should also be able to do other adult things. Puregonzo1188 Oct 2012 #107
An axe murderer is an axe murderer. MrSlayer Oct 2012 #111
You seriously want to execute middle school children? Nevernose Oct 2012 #129
Why not? MrSlayer Oct 2012 #130
I agree JVS Oct 2012 #132
You would have to undo constitutional law to get your blood thirst on. morningfog Oct 2012 #137
Well, I'm not going to do anything. MrSlayer Oct 2012 #141
God, it's topics like this that make me glad I don't live in the U.S. Evoman Oct 2012 #120
In what earthly paradise of a nation do you find your abode? nt MADem Oct 2012 #127
yep, we should do as in your country...take them aside and talk with them very seriously... yawnmaster Oct 2012 #138
I hate these bull shit threads......... SILVER__FOX52 Oct 2012 #124
+1 Stinky The Clown Oct 2012 #131
NO Skittles Oct 2012 #126
They are not adults. A teenage brain has a lot of developing to do. Exultant Democracy Oct 2012 #133
Neither are facing life without the possibility of parole. morningfog Oct 2012 #134
No- a 13 year old is never an adult Marrah_G Oct 2012 #136
Brain development at 13 years old... yawnmaster Oct 2012 #139
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