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Lydia Leftcoast

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73. I don't know of any, but a lot of fundamentalists kind of make it up as they go along

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Fri Oct 5, 2012, 04:01 PM

Oct 2012

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Evangelical parents go to court to stop daughter with terminal illness who wishes to die: [View all] Are_grits_groceries Oct 2012 OP

She is a lucid adult -- why should her paremts decide her fate??? obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #1

That's my reaction too!!! get the red out Oct 2012 #5

The courts had no business giving TWO TROs obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #14

No they did NOT! get the red out Oct 2012 #19

Yes, TWICE the parents and courts have stopped their daughter's legal rights obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #21

Sorry, should have said "No the courts did NOT have the right" get the red out Oct 2012 #29

I read it that way anyway! obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #33

First reply nailed it. slackmaster Oct 2012 #22

Refusing medical treatment is not "suicide". nt. Mariana Oct 2012 #30

Her parents see it as that, and it's a sin to them obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #35

Her parents are control freaks Mariana Oct 2012 #43

Exactly. Pab Sungenis Oct 2012 #76

And torturing her in the process. Mariana Oct 2012 #78

I never said I agreed with them, I have said the opposite obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #82

Refusing food is suicide. slackmaster Oct 2012 #56

How about refusing a respirator? Mariana Oct 2012 #60

I don't want to get into a hair-splitting exercise here slackmaster Oct 2012 #61

She chose to get terminal brain cancer? Cal Carpenter Oct 2012 #66

Did I say she chose to get cancer? slackmaster Oct 2012 #74

You said she made a conscious decision to end her life Cal Carpenter Oct 2012 #75

Thank you for your pedantry. I'm sure it's given with good intentions. slackmaster Oct 2012 #79

There's nothing to decide there. Mariana Oct 2012 #69

shes their daughter. have the decision yourself then judge. i roguevalley Oct 2012 #34

That has nothing to do with the legalities of her case obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #37

It's not just appalling, it is liberalhistorian Oct 2012 #44

Which they have done, TWICE obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #48

the legalities aren't part of what I am saying. I am saying until its your decision, you can't know. roguevalley Oct 2012 #80

Yes, the legalities have everything in the world to do with what you're saying. Care Acutely Oct 2012 #88

if you ignore the human element in situations you will always be pissed and filled with ego based roguevalley Oct 2012 #92

The law protects free human beings from malfeasance cloaked in "concern" Care Acutely Oct 2012 #93

I hear what you're saying. Gormy Cuss Oct 2012 #90

me too. this is a terrible thing for everyone, especially that poor girl My thoughts are for her. roguevalley Oct 2012 #91

An adult has the right to refuse medical treatment. jberryhill Oct 2012 #2

that should be the bottom line here marions ghost Oct 2012 #4

I'm curious about your reluctance Le Taz Hot Oct 2012 #13

Both my father and mother marions ghost Oct 2012 #20

. . . Le Taz Hot Oct 2012 #32

In our case marions ghost Oct 2012 #36

"In an era of for-profit hospitals you can see that this can cause problems." = yes. it will. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #86

Thanks for the corroboration marions ghost Oct 2012 #89

She doesn't want treatment - what's "grey" jberryhill Oct 2012 #58

You're not hearing what I'm saying marions ghost Oct 2012 #59

This obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #15

Bull's eye. hifiguy Oct 2012 #31

I'm sorry about your mother, but I'm glad her wishes were honored liberalhistorian Oct 2012 #46

That was more than three years ago. hifiguy Oct 2012 #49

Yes, I know of two cases in which a person refused treatment for cancer Lydia Leftcoast Oct 2012 #38

My late sweetheart was a devout Catholic; but, she reached a point in her cancer treatment... LongTomH Oct 2012 #57

I work with cancer patients and see this kind of thing every day... tallahasseedem Oct 2012 #64

It sure doesn't make it any easier Mariana Oct 2012 #70

This tragic for everyone involved. Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2012 #3

The supreme entity wants her - keeping her on life support is in opposition to it's design. geckosfeet Oct 2012 #6

Well, that's a slippery slope argument, regarding medical procedures. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #12

The daughter expressed one desire. The parents intervened and imposed theirs. geckosfeet Oct 2012 #77

“The thought of her dying, my heart tremors, everything goes black,” Mariana Oct 2012 #7

And, his daughter WILL die anyway obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #16

I saw this happen with my Uncle HockeyMom Oct 2012 #8

I love that song obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #17

A grown woman has the right to refuse medical treatment. madaboutharry Oct 2012 #9

28. She is well in to being of the age of majority 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #10

Is 28 not legal adulthood? This shouldn't even be allowed in court. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #11

And TWICE the courts have stopped her legal medical wishes obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #18

stupid fucking religous fundies... snooper2 Oct 2012 #23

Those are evil parents malaise Oct 2012 #24

I feel sorry for the parents. It's very hard to lose a child, but, in this case, Arkansas Granny Oct 2012 #25

I don't feel sorry for cruel, stupid, fearful people. nt valerief Oct 2012 #28

The parents should go to her bedside and ask her what she wants to do. yellowcanine Oct 2012 #39

They don't give a fuck what she wants. nt. Mariana Oct 2012 #51

I felt bad for them, too, even though I feel the court ultimately ruled correctly in letting her go. Pithlet Oct 2012 #71

How torturous for the woman. Religion is torture. nt valerief Oct 2012 #26

Damn those parents... This is HER choice. HERs alone. hlthe2b Oct 2012 #27

Like many free-lance fundies, they're ignorant of their own tradition's theology Lydia Leftcoast Oct 2012 #40

You are correct, that is the theology behind it. liberalhistorian Oct 2012 #42

It technically isn't part of doctrine anymore obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #84

Which Christian denominations teach Mariana Oct 2012 #52

I don't know of any, but a lot of fundamentalists kind of make it up as they go along Lydia Leftcoast Oct 2012 #73

Catholic doctrine allows adults to refuse medical treatment for themselves obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #85

Well, as a Christian, I can say liberalhistorian Oct 2012 #41

dumbass kkkonservatives won't let their daughter make the ultimate decision BOG PERSON Oct 2012 #45

Using religious rhetoric sucks Sheepshank Oct 2012 #47

It's certainly a handy tool for manipulating people. Mariana Oct 2012 #54

I've said it before and I'll say it again: the fundies do not give a shit about children!!!!!! Initech Oct 2012 #50

Breaking right now -- HappyMe Oct 2012 #53

Good. hifiguy Oct 2012 #67

GOOD! obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #87

This is so sad. dkf Oct 2012 #55

The overwhelming majority of Christians Mariana Oct 2012 #68

Catholic Hospital my Mom was in HockeyMom Oct 2012 #72

Let her go in peace. tallahasseedem Oct 2012 #62

It's all about suffering and torture. God's plan for you. Duer 157099 Oct 2012 #63

They should allow her to determine her own destiny mrs_p Oct 2012 #65

i don't get it, if these folks believe in the afterlife, what's the big friggin' deal? spanone Oct 2012 #81

She's 28. Let her decide. proud2BlibKansan Oct 2012 #83