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72. Catholic Hospital my Mom was in

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 03:48 PM

Oct 2012

They honored her DNR. That is leaving her life or death in "god's" hands, not man's medical science. Not the same thing at all as Assisted Suicide.

This issue came up on Freepers site. The MAJORITY said that putting life and death issues in the hands of "god" was not anti-life. It was only the extremists, life at all costs and taken away from individuals, who disagreed.

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Evangelical parents go to court to stop daughter with terminal illness who wishes to die: [View all] Are_grits_groceries Oct 2012 OP

She is a lucid adult -- why should her paremts decide her fate??? obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #1

That's my reaction too!!! get the red out Oct 2012 #5

The courts had no business giving TWO TROs obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #14

No they did NOT! get the red out Oct 2012 #19

Yes, TWICE the parents and courts have stopped their daughter's legal rights obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #21

Sorry, should have said "No the courts did NOT have the right" get the red out Oct 2012 #29

I read it that way anyway! obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #33

First reply nailed it. slackmaster Oct 2012 #22

Refusing medical treatment is not "suicide". nt. Mariana Oct 2012 #30

Her parents see it as that, and it's a sin to them obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #35

Her parents are control freaks Mariana Oct 2012 #43

Exactly. Pab Sungenis Oct 2012 #76

And torturing her in the process. Mariana Oct 2012 #78

I never said I agreed with them, I have said the opposite obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #82

Refusing food is suicide. slackmaster Oct 2012 #56

How about refusing a respirator? Mariana Oct 2012 #60

I don't want to get into a hair-splitting exercise here slackmaster Oct 2012 #61

She chose to get terminal brain cancer? Cal Carpenter Oct 2012 #66

Did I say she chose to get cancer? slackmaster Oct 2012 #74

You said she made a conscious decision to end her life Cal Carpenter Oct 2012 #75

Thank you for your pedantry. I'm sure it's given with good intentions. slackmaster Oct 2012 #79

There's nothing to decide there. Mariana Oct 2012 #69

shes their daughter. have the decision yourself then judge. i roguevalley Oct 2012 #34

That has nothing to do with the legalities of her case obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #37

It's not just appalling, it is liberalhistorian Oct 2012 #44

Which they have done, TWICE obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #48

the legalities aren't part of what I am saying. I am saying until its your decision, you can't know. roguevalley Oct 2012 #80

Yes, the legalities have everything in the world to do with what you're saying. Care Acutely Oct 2012 #88

if you ignore the human element in situations you will always be pissed and filled with ego based roguevalley Oct 2012 #92

The law protects free human beings from malfeasance cloaked in "concern" Care Acutely Oct 2012 #93

I hear what you're saying. Gormy Cuss Oct 2012 #90

me too. this is a terrible thing for everyone, especially that poor girl My thoughts are for her. roguevalley Oct 2012 #91

An adult has the right to refuse medical treatment. jberryhill Oct 2012 #2

that should be the bottom line here marions ghost Oct 2012 #4

I'm curious about your reluctance Le Taz Hot Oct 2012 #13

Both my father and mother marions ghost Oct 2012 #20

. . . Le Taz Hot Oct 2012 #32

In our case marions ghost Oct 2012 #36

"In an era of for-profit hospitals you can see that this can cause problems." = yes. it will. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #86

Thanks for the corroboration marions ghost Oct 2012 #89

She doesn't want treatment - what's "grey" jberryhill Oct 2012 #58

You're not hearing what I'm saying marions ghost Oct 2012 #59

This obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #15

Bull's eye. hifiguy Oct 2012 #31

I'm sorry about your mother, but I'm glad her wishes were honored liberalhistorian Oct 2012 #46

That was more than three years ago. hifiguy Oct 2012 #49

Yes, I know of two cases in which a person refused treatment for cancer Lydia Leftcoast Oct 2012 #38

My late sweetheart was a devout Catholic; but, she reached a point in her cancer treatment... LongTomH Oct 2012 #57

I work with cancer patients and see this kind of thing every day... tallahasseedem Oct 2012 #64

It sure doesn't make it any easier Mariana Oct 2012 #70

This tragic for everyone involved. Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2012 #3

The supreme entity wants her - keeping her on life support is in opposition to it's design. geckosfeet Oct 2012 #6

Well, that's a slippery slope argument, regarding medical procedures. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #12

The daughter expressed one desire. The parents intervened and imposed theirs. geckosfeet Oct 2012 #77

“The thought of her dying, my heart tremors, everything goes black,” Mariana Oct 2012 #7

And, his daughter WILL die anyway obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #16

I saw this happen with my Uncle HockeyMom Oct 2012 #8

I love that song obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #17

A grown woman has the right to refuse medical treatment. madaboutharry Oct 2012 #9

28. She is well in to being of the age of majority 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #10

Is 28 not legal adulthood? This shouldn't even be allowed in court. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #11

And TWICE the courts have stopped her legal medical wishes obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #18

stupid fucking religous fundies... snooper2 Oct 2012 #23

Those are evil parents malaise Oct 2012 #24

I feel sorry for the parents. It's very hard to lose a child, but, in this case, Arkansas Granny Oct 2012 #25

I don't feel sorry for cruel, stupid, fearful people. nt valerief Oct 2012 #28

The parents should go to her bedside and ask her what she wants to do. yellowcanine Oct 2012 #39

They don't give a fuck what she wants. nt. Mariana Oct 2012 #51

I felt bad for them, too, even though I feel the court ultimately ruled correctly in letting her go. Pithlet Oct 2012 #71

How torturous for the woman. Religion is torture. nt valerief Oct 2012 #26

Damn those parents... This is HER choice. HERs alone. hlthe2b Oct 2012 #27

Like many free-lance fundies, they're ignorant of their own tradition's theology Lydia Leftcoast Oct 2012 #40

You are correct, that is the theology behind it. liberalhistorian Oct 2012 #42

It technically isn't part of doctrine anymore obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #84

Which Christian denominations teach Mariana Oct 2012 #52

I don't know of any, but a lot of fundamentalists kind of make it up as they go along Lydia Leftcoast Oct 2012 #73

Catholic doctrine allows adults to refuse medical treatment for themselves obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #85

Well, as a Christian, I can say liberalhistorian Oct 2012 #41

dumbass kkkonservatives won't let their daughter make the ultimate decision BOG PERSON Oct 2012 #45

Using religious rhetoric sucks Sheepshank Oct 2012 #47

It's certainly a handy tool for manipulating people. Mariana Oct 2012 #54

I've said it before and I'll say it again: the fundies do not give a shit about children!!!!!! Initech Oct 2012 #50

Breaking right now -- HappyMe Oct 2012 #53

Good. hifiguy Oct 2012 #67

GOOD! obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #87

This is so sad. dkf Oct 2012 #55

The overwhelming majority of Christians Mariana Oct 2012 #68

Catholic Hospital my Mom was in HockeyMom Oct 2012 #72

Let her go in peace. tallahasseedem Oct 2012 #62

It's all about suffering and torture. God's plan for you. Duer 157099 Oct 2012 #63

They should allow her to determine her own destiny mrs_p Oct 2012 #65

i don't get it, if these folks believe in the afterlife, what's the big friggin' deal? spanone Oct 2012 #81

She's 28. Let her decide. proud2BlibKansan Oct 2012 #83