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Scootaloo

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90. And you think in all cases, it points to a particular strip of Levantine dirt?

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 03:12 PM

Oct 2012

It doesn't. Zionism is a political ideology, but not all Zionism is "political Zionism." There's such a thing as "cultural Zionism," with a subset of "spiritual Zionism," the idea that the Jewish People comprise a unified nation unto themselves without need for a particular chunk of land dedicated to them (spiritual Zionism posits, appropriately a "spiritual homeland" in terms of relationship to God).

There's also such a thing as Romani nationalism. Which does look more like the "cultural" than "political" variety of the comparable Zionism. But since the latter grew from the former, who knows, maybe the same will happen with Romani nationalism, and one of their congresses will demand a tangible homeland in the future. Would you support their demand?

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Jews Backed 'Innocence Of Muslims' Conspiracy Theory Will Not Die, Say Jewish Groups [View all] oberliner Sep 2012 OP

It wouldn't surprise me if Muslims believe that Jews murdered the hijackers on 9/11... (n/t) richmwill Sep 2012 #1

Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #34

Isn't the damage done to the Muslim community a little greater? Kindly Refrain Sep 2012 #2

How so? oberliner Sep 2012 #4

Ummmm well that film caused riots in the global Muslim community. Kindly Refrain Sep 2012 #6

Within the global Muslim community, Jews are blamed for the video oberliner Sep 2012 #7

Well of course Kindly Refrain Sep 2012 #8

"nobody outside of the extremist Muslim community believes that Jews were responsible" oberliner Sep 2012 #11

"I'm pretty sure", "I think" Kindly Refrain Oct 2012 #61

Well Iran's Press TV continues to report it as such oberliner Oct 2012 #65

Add to that the Lebanese papers out of Beirut nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #81

No, the rioters caused the riots. Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #9

They COULD have said Nevernose Oct 2012 #38

Yeah, that was pretty much my point. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #40

I was agreeing Nevernose Oct 2012 #63

We don't know what caused the riots. And just as the rumor that Jews created sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #55

You are second guessing their stated reason for their outrage. Quantess Oct 2012 #58

I don't know what caused the protests, but they were mostly peaceful and generally sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #59

There was that little incident in Colorado Kindly Refrain Oct 2012 #60

Right, and I don't blame Batman for that, either. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #62

I think some fundies went bezerk when they saw "The Mist" snooper2 Oct 2012 #64

No: ignorance, superstition, manipulation, fear, anger etc 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #80

Two-State Solution!!!!! longship Sep 2012 #3

What does this have to do with the OP? oberliner Sep 2012 #5

i got no idea either, unless its some kind of code or something loli phabay Sep 2012 #13

Yawn leftynyc Oct 2012 #56

Just curious, but does anyone think this video... OldDem2012 Sep 2012 #10

You don't buy that it was Egyptian-American Copts? oberliner Sep 2012 #12

The funding for the full-length film... OldDem2012 Sep 2012 #14

what do you think all american copts work minimum wage jobs or something loli phabay Sep 2012 #15

Wow. That's a cheap shot. nt. OldDem2012 Sep 2012 #18

and appropriate to your contention that the copts wouldnt have that kind of money to spend. loli phabay Sep 2012 #22

As opposed to your apparent belief in some sweepting Coptic conspiracy Scootaloo Sep 2012 #26

not sweeping i just know that copts have no love for the people who have treated them abysmly in loli phabay Sep 2012 #30

"the people who have treated them abysmly" Scootaloo Sep 2012 #36

not sure why you think this picture has anything to do with the coptic christians loli phabay Oct 2012 #41

Because the film dehumanizes Muslims as a group. Scootaloo Oct 2012 #44

no im saying i can understand copts having issues with muslims due to their treatment from them loli phabay Oct 2012 #45

Good to know. Scootaloo Oct 2012 #46

nope no double standard i just know there are nuts in all religions, i got no probs with them until loli phabay Oct 2012 #47

I've noticed the same problem. Scootaloo Oct 2012 #48

yeah i dont get it, took me a while to understand the amount of whats called troll hunting loli phabay Oct 2012 #49

That's not a dog! Good lord, you heathen... Scootaloo Oct 2012 #69

lol i honestly thought it was some wierd cartoon dog loli phabay Oct 2012 #85

Looks pretty cheap oberliner Sep 2012 #16

Yes, the film was cheap to make, but... OldDem2012 Sep 2012 #19

I'm saying the film could have been made for a few thousand dollars oberliner Sep 2012 #21

this is just the type of Conspiracy in the OP , we know who is behind it JI7 Sep 2012 #17

??? Explain, please. OldDem2012 Sep 2012 #20

I'm sure that's what Mel Gibson and Helen Thomas believe (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #23

Good to see that the right-wing bullshit about Helen Thomas still has a home on DU Scootaloo Sep 2012 #29

So she never said "Congress, the White House and Hollywood, Wall Street are owned by Zionists"? Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #31

Maybe you should read the wiki. Or even watch the video of the exchange. Scootaloo Sep 2012 #33

Ah, so Congress, the White House, Hollywood and Wall Street are owned by the SETTLERS IN PALESTINE. Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #35

Zionism is a political ideology. Scootaloo Oct 2012 #37

Bullfuckingshit. aquart Oct 2012 #51

Thanks for proving my point. Scootaloo Oct 2012 #52

can you tell me where the rom homeland is loli phabay Oct 2012 #53

What, does point of origin only "count" for some people? Scootaloo Oct 2012 #68

point is israel is seen by the jewish people as their homeland loli phabay Oct 2012 #73

So if the Cherokee nation decides that all of Georgia, Lousiana, Tennessee and Alabama... redgreenandblue Oct 2012 #75

uh i was saying that unlike the jewish people who see israel has their home loli phabay Oct 2012 #76

So, you're disagreeing with your own argument? Scootaloo Oct 2012 #78

unfortunately might makes right is the way of the world loli phabay Oct 2012 #83

Alright then. Might makes right. Scootaloo Oct 2012 #87

not sure where you are coming from here loli phabay Oct 2012 #88

I'm coming from the position that you don't appear to believe it is "unfortunate" at all. Scootaloo Oct 2012 #91

Well, point of order... Scootaloo Oct 2012 #79

no romantism home is the on the horizon is a valid feeling regardless if settled or not loli phabay Oct 2012 #84

And you think in all cases, it points to a particular strip of Levantine dirt? Scootaloo Oct 2012 #90

no ii would not support that demand though any nation who wanted to settle can loli phabay Oct 2012 #93

I didn't figure you would. Scootaloo Oct 2012 #94

uh no idea what you mean by that care to elaborate loli phabay Oct 2012 #95

Very simple. Scootaloo Oct 2012 #96

i believe i said i would not support a return to a cursed land for the rom loli phabay Oct 2012 #97

"All human life is from Africa. Where is my free piece of land and privileged status in Nigeria?" redgreenandblue Oct 2012 #74

Do you have any thoughts on this exchange? oberliner Oct 2012 #66

Yeah, I do, and thanks for making me aware of it. Scootaloo Oct 2012 #67

It isn't "right-wing bullshit." Behind the Aegis Oct 2012 #39

Yes it is. Scootaloo Oct 2012 #50

Typical. Behind the Aegis Oct 2012 #54

Funny how the "sneaky, conniving Jew" bullshit is all coming from you, Aegis Scootaloo Oct 2012 #77

But Scootaloo..."the Wicked Witch of the Wahabbi " from you?!?! Behind the Aegis Oct 2012 #82

Well, that is exactly how she has been portrayed over this, Aegis Scootaloo Oct 2012 #86

Yes, she is, by some detractors and many of her defenders. Behind the Aegis Oct 2012 #89

Well, please don't attribute this to me, then Scootaloo Oct 2012 #92

I've received about five email spams linking to it so =someone= truly has an investment Fire Walk With Me Sep 2012 #24

Linking to the movie itself? oberliner Sep 2012 #25

On youtube, talking it up. I haven't kept any of the emails but it's certainly evidence Fire Walk With Me Sep 2012 #32

And this is WHY the makers of that film created the lie Scootaloo Sep 2012 #27

It's not a "theory", it is a slander SIDURI Sep 2012 #28

It died with me the very SECOND I heard that the "producer" was a naturalized Egyptian Copt nt MADem Oct 2012 #42

I don't know why this is surprising news. Behind the Aegis Oct 2012 #43

But according to many here leftynyc Oct 2012 #57

Exactly. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #71

K&R. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #70

Thanks oberliner Oct 2012 #72