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Response to Drew Richards (Original post)
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 05:40 AM
graham4anything (11,464 posts)
27. the law of unintended consequences (IMHO) will help keep our President safe
the law of unintended consequences
I apply this in hindsight, seeing what happened after the tragedy of 1963, in what great things happeneed, that quite honestly, I do not feel would have happened any time soon.
And it is because of this, that I think these horrid events will not happen again.(especially if the events were professional and not single person, but I don't mean to get into conspiracy or conspiracy theories).
LBJ became president. And LBJ(and I am a big LBJ fan, and don't want to argue the war on this thread) used his capital he had from the nation and both sides, and got changes that instantly made this country better.
I am talking about the civil rights/ voting rights laws signed by LBJ and all the progressive movement forward that occured
JFK and RFK talked about things, dreamed about things, and part of the reason JFK is immortal forever is that he / they were not here long enough to be the one who got the change done and therefore not blamed for not getting the change done.
And because JFK wanted his brother to follow him at some point as President, and perhaps also wanted his younger brother Teddy to do so, I am not very sure JFK himself would have gotten those bills passed, or had the ability to get them passed not wanting to expend capital knowing RFK would have to get elected
At the end of the day, in events NOT forseen, LBJ did get them passed.
And I think that in the coming decades, that was a lesson learned.
So that now we have character asssasssinations and attempts to belittle a President on the left (like they did to Jimmy Carter and have from day one done to President Obama), but that horrid event won't happen professionally.
And I do not believe a joe average can do this anymore.
I trust secret service and others because now everyone is on the alert for something
(and I don't trust sorry, those now 2 old white hair men peddling the book about protecting JFK and Jackie as both Jackie and JFK are not here to dispute it.)
(and who knows, were Teddy's tires shot out? It achieved the same result didn't it, but again, don't want to delve in CT's.)But Teddy lived long enough and remained to become the #1 senator of all time, and was able to see his #1 want, health care reform finally move forward.
So I think President Obama will nobly serve his 8 years, and in history be seen as perhaps the #3 or #4 President of all time on the list, and his accomplishments will go forward by the next president45 who will continue that move forward to seal those accomplishments in place forever.
And as he is so young, I don't know if we all will be around to see airports and monuments named after him as it may be 50 to 75 years down the road before that happens, (the longer the better) but his profile on Mount Rushmore would not be surprising to me as will some major tribute on the national mall. (where a weekend ago, I visited and saw for the first time and was deeply impressed with both the FDR and MLK tributes there.(and with how many people there were wearing something showing Our President, button/hat/shirt and how not one person in my view cared about his opponent enough to do the same.100%).
If one thinks this post should not be on a public board, I will listen and self-delete it.
speaking of President FDR-
I was stunned with a few quotes that were engraved in his huge tribute in DC.
It is amazing how similiar FDR and Barack Obama were in their words
In these days of difficulty, we Americans everywhere must and shall choose a path of social justice...
The path of faith, the path of hope, and the path of love toward our fellow man."
Among American citizens, there should be no forgotten men, and no forgotten races."
"I never forget that I live in a house owned by all the American people and that I have been given their trust."
The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much;
It is whether we provide enough for those who have too little."
and a quote not on his memorial that he said-
Nobody will ever deprive the American people of the right to vote except the American people themselves and the only way they could do this is by not voting.
As Abraham Lincoln stated,We could not secure the good we did secure if we grasped for more.LBJ-Lincoln-Carter-Obama-FDR. 5 best of all time.LBJ said-Any jackass can kick down a barn but it takes a good carpenter to build one.Hillary45 to continue the President Obama agenda for 8 more years.Michelle Obama in 2024
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the law of unintended consequences (IMHO) will help keep our President safe
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