Wed Sep 26, 2012, 02:39 PM

Rapist wants visitation rights; teen mom fighting back [View all]

An admitted Massachusetts rapist is seeking visitation rights to the child he fathered after raping his underage victim, setting the stage for a precedent-setting legal fight in the Bay State.

The victim and her family are fighting back, saying the rapist is only showing interest in the family now that the child support bill is coming due.

"She got raped at 14. She decided to keep her baby. And now she has to hand her baby over for a visit with her rapist?" the victim's mother said.

The teen mother, who still suffers from severe anxiety and depression, says she's terrified at the thought of having to face the man who raped and impregnated her to arrange for visitation rights.

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It happened when she was in eighth grade, just 14-years-old. He was a 20-year-old man she knew from her church, the boyfriend of her friend's older sister.

When her mother found out, they went to the police to press charges. But she decided to keep the baby.

Read more: http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/19628763/2012/09/24/rapist-wants-visitation-rights-teen-mom-fighting-back#ixzz27bQ1H8mu

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Rapist wants visitation rights; teen mom fighting back [View all]	Liberal_in_LA	Sep 2012	OP
Well, it's clear she is anti-abortion and now she will pay the consequences	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#1
That is an appalling attitude.	antigone382	Sep 2012	#7
Um, "she made a personal decision to keep the child" followed by "Who knows how much pressure	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#16
I don't really care. She shouldn't be forced to co-parent with her rapist. Period.	Care Acutely	Sep 2012	#29
Sorry. But the law says differently.	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#68
what gross thoughts you have	Whisp	Sep 2012	#107
Maybe,	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#113
what bullshit.	Whisp	Sep 2012	#125
it's a mistake to play God	Zygoat	Sep 2012	#162
How many times in history have we had laws that were wrong?	LiberalFighter	Sep 2012	#167
That should be the law of the land. Rapists do not get custody to the product	stevenleser	Sep 2012	#135
Considering he raped her when she was underage, why is anyone allowing him near a child?	aquart	Sep 2012	#180
So you're in favor of "choice" only when you agree with the decision?	11 Bravo	Sep 2012	#44
I agree with you completely. nt	MADem	Sep 2012	#59
No. That's what you made of it.	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#116
Rape is rape	bevb	Sep 2012	#124
A 14-year-old kid was raped by an ADULT man	obamanut2012	Sep 2012	#142
this -- and how much choice does a raped kid have	obamanut2012	Sep 2012	#141
Legally, it was her decision. No one could force her to keep or not keep the child.	antigone382	Sep 2012	#47
She made a choice and possibly was under pressure. How is that twisting or disgusting to acknowledge	uppityperson	Sep 2012	#104
This horrifying post is like a RW parody of liberal position	cthulu2016	Sep 2012	#11
No. Keeping the product of your rapist while justifying it as a "baby"	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#18
WTF are you talking about? The "baby" doesn't need to be justified as anything.	cthulu2016	Sep 2012	#27
As a juror who voted to leave #18 alone, I completely agree with your criticism of it.	Jim Lane	Sep 2012	#35
Well, the TOS has this paragraph in it that might work in this instance.	MADem	Sep 2012	#60
Unless the baby appeared miraculously and fully developed	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#71
Are you saying that this living breathing creature is not a baby?	NotThisTime	Sep 2012	#28
Ugh	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#72
Hate Christians much?	TheMadMonk	Sep 2012	#170
How old was the fetus when she decided to not abort? Since you obviously know more than any of us.	uppityperson	Sep 2012	#172
So true n/t	ornotna	Sep 2012	#53
indeed n/t	fishwax	Sep 2012	#62
I was thinking the same. What a crude and heartless post.	Lilyeye	Sep 2012	#82
there is no dilema	dsc	Sep 2012	#13
Yeah, it's a dilemma and I know as much about this as you.	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#24
You're pro-choice? I'm reading that you don't respect the choice of this young woman in your posts	MADem	Sep 2012	#31
Yeah. I'm pro-choice, not that it's any of your or anyone else's business.	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#39
What does rapists having access to children have to do with responsibility?	antigone382	Sep 2012	#52
True. But the state has ensured it isn't the end of this story.	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#70
If it's not anyone's business, then stay out of threads that discuss the topic, and don't make	MADem	Sep 2012	#57
You said what I was gonna say!	Tsiyu	Sep 2012	#64
Right. And MA's posts are all pink elephants and lemonade.	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#73
You are more than welcome.	MADem	Sep 2012	#99
Wow. What an inclusive DUer you are.	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#69
I don't have a problem with reading comprehension. You do. One of two things is happening here.	MADem	Sep 2012	#95
Naw. I'm articulating myself just fine.	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#106
You carp about getting personal, and then you assume I have a "red haze" because	MADem	Sep 2012	#117
You say you've a 20 yr old. When you were pg did you call her your "product of sex"?	uppityperson	Sep 2012	#101
Nope. As a Christian, married for 11 years, and nearly 30, I called her my baby.	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#108
And are you now projecting those feelings, emotions, thoughts, on to this 14 yr old? I see that is a	uppityperson	Sep 2012	#109
Please	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#112
Lol. Now you're channeling Akin.	B2G	Sep 2012	#122
Your derision of this person is about you. This bit from the article counters your "not truly" rape	uppityperson	Sep 2012	#140
I can't follow your logic.	noamnety	Sep 2012	#163
Yup. That is it in a nutshell. Thank you. nt	uppityperson	Sep 2012	#165
Only Christians can be "truly" raped; others are just irresponsible hussy-sluts, right?	REP	Sep 2012	#131
.....	obamanut2012	Sep 2012	#143
So, according to you, there is 'rape rape', and then there is 'rape-esque' or 'rapeish' ?	stevenleser	Sep 2012	#152
And, nonconsensual rape where the victim is threatened isn't really rape	obamanut2012	Sep 2012	#159
Yes, and if you will excuse me, I need to unknot my brain after trying to follow that person's logic	stevenleser	Sep 2012	#160
I know -- I need an Excedrin	obamanut2012	Sep 2012	#161
A 20 yr old threatened, had sex with a14 yr old who's still very depressed.This isn't "truly" rape?	uppityperson	Sep 2012	#166
you're a Christian?	Zygoat	Sep 2012	#168
Do you feel better now? eom	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#75
Once again,	xmas74	Sep 2012	#93
Why thank you! nt	MADem	Sep 2012	#97
BCD, you've been here way longer than my newb ass	M_M	Sep 2012	#63
most people of "faith" are of the "cafeteria" sort, and you are not the boss of this kid!	bettyellen	Sep 2012	#148
"Free ride?"	surrealAmerican	Sep 2012	#40
Why do you expect a child to think like an adult?	DevonRex	Sep 2012	#132
Your post makes DU seriously suck.	Starry Messenger	Sep 2012	#14
I have one. 20. I don't speak for her. I speak for myself	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#19
"Traces" ugh.	Starry Messenger	Sep 2012	#23
Your need to remove the choice for and judge others on that choice is appalling. nt.	NCTraveler	Sep 2012	#30
??? Whut? eom	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#34
The poster is saying that you are in effect saying the choice to give birth	Tsiyu	Sep 2012	#65
Then the poster	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#74
your very first statement	Tsiyu	Sep 2012	#90
That doesn't invalidate her choice, and I did NOT claim such a thing.	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#110
This message was self-deleted by its author	uppityperson	Sep 2012	#111
Nothing was misread. Maybe it was poorly written.	NCTraveler	Sep 2012	#129
+1.	MADem	Sep 2012	#119
100% agree with this	obamanut2012	Sep 2012	#146
Yeah. That's why it's called "choice".	Zoeisright	Sep 2012	#61
Yeah, choice.	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#77
Your empathy and compassion for fellow rape victims is mindblowing	obamanut2012	Sep 2012	#144
+1,000,000! nt	MADem	Sep 2012	#58
What?	lapislzi	Sep 2012	#15
I know as much about this person as you do. Keep that in mind, will ya?	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#32
Yes. When you choose to rape someone, that has consequences too.	lapislzi	Sep 2012	#38
Agree completely. Thank you for not making it personal or about me.	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#43
Gotcha, and you're right.	lapislzi	Sep 2012	#86
"I know she made a conscious choice to keep the product of her rape" is the problem here. Not that	uppityperson	Sep 2012	#96
I didn't think I'd read any other posts on DU this week that could top the ones excusing	Bad_Ronald	Sep 2012	#17
Oh. Ok. So people believing others should take personal responsibility for their CHOICES	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#26
No, the presumptuous, disdainful & haughty attitude you've shown towards this juvenile rape victim	Bad_Ronald	Sep 2012	#33
Why do you have to make it a personal thing? Did I take your lunch money in Jr High or something?	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#45
OK, how about this?	antigone382	Sep 2012	#55
You're far more diplomatic than me	Tsiyu	Sep 2012	#66
True.	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#78
I agree.	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#76
If you agree, why are you bringing up her attitude about abortion?	antigone382	Sep 2012	#84
By your logic, there are no bad laws in the US	obamanut2012	Sep 2012	#149
how is your judgment not personal?	Zygoat	Sep 2012	#169
You have a deranged thought process. n/t	vaberella	Sep 2012	#36
To say the least!	etherealtruth	Sep 2012	#50
More personal attacks. Wow.	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#79
It has nothing to do with feeling better. It's an observation.	vaberella	Sep 2012	#105
Riiiight. Just an observation.	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#115
Yeah, I think the MA judge is full of shit and this was a bad decision	obamanut2012	Sep 2012	#150
You don't understand what a personal attack is, either.	MADem	Sep 2012	#118
I think you are making an unfair assumption	Still Sensible	Sep 2012	#37
It's not an assumption. It's based on the girl's own words:	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#46
OMG	GObamaGO	Sep 2012	#54
Uh . . .	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#80
She also claimed "He threatened me. He told me that he could make my life upside down, and I wouldn	uppityperson	Sep 2012	#98
Pro-choice is pro-choice. If she chose not to terminate her pregnancy, then that was her choice,	Arkansas Granny	Sep 2012	#87
What a fucking DISGUSTING post!	Odin2005	Sep 2012	#89
What a DISGUSTING response to it!	BlueCaliDem	Sep 2012	#103
I think you need to learn what Pro-CHOICE means.	Odin2005	Sep 2012	#123
This has gotta be performance art, right? The "Liberal" Todd Akin sketch? nt	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#92
It's called CHOICE.	Lisa D	Sep 2012	#100
Because she chose to not have an abortion, this means she should suffer the consequences of having	uppityperson	Sep 2012	#102
A Christian is supposed to forgive.	Hatchling	Sep 2012	#121
Are you frickin kidding me?	forthemiddle	Sep 2012	#134
That poster is not at all "pro abortion"	obamanut2012	Sep 2012	#151
This is one of those "You really ought to think about that a bit" kind of posts	stevenleser	Sep 2012	#136
Very first response in the thread's attacking a rape victim. Classy. (nt)	Posteritatis	Sep 2012	#137
Perhaps the most remarkable thing about your post, apart from its reprehensibility, is the fact	Bad_Ronald	Sep 2012	#147
+1000	Starry Messenger	Sep 2012	#155
This message was self-deleted by its author	Union Scribe	Sep 2012	#171
Were you born this much of an asshole, or did you have to take classes? n/t	backscatter712	Sep 2012	#173
excellent question! (nt)	Tumbulu	Sep 2012	#176
My goodness your post is so outrageous	Tumbulu	Sep 2012	#179
The legislature ought to pass a law which denies parental rights to rapists	meow2u3	Sep 2012	#2
Child support is not "part of the punishment."	Jim Lane	Sep 2012	#42
This YOUNG teenager is not raising that baby	HockeyMom	Sep 2012	#3
I'm going to have to disagree with you on that one.	HopeHoops	Sep 2012	#4
This girl was in MIDDLE SCHOOL	HockeyMom	Sep 2012	#5
I'll pull the "womens' rights card" on this one. She suffered the rape and it's her child.	HopeHoops	Sep 2012	#6
Well, I agree with you there	HockeyMom	Sep 2012	#10
No clue. Not one bit of it makes sense.	HopeHoops	Sep 2012	#21
Wait... what???	opiate69	Sep 2012	#12
If she and her parents decide to keep the child and work out child care while she is in school...	antigone382	Sep 2012	#9
Fine for you.	lapislzi	Sep 2012	#20
That's what I was thinking. Adoption is a choice, too.	Iris	Sep 2012	#22
I agree with you completely.	progressivebydesign	Sep 2012	#25
Me, too.	lapislzi	Sep 2012	#41
This message was self-deleted by its author	Bad_Ronald	Sep 2012	#8
The young woman's attitude toward abortion is irrelevant. What's relevant is the attempt by the	Monk06	Sep 2012	#48
+1000	orpupilofnature57	Sep 2012	#83
oh hell NO!	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#49
+1000	Liberal_in_LA	Sep 2012	#51
The minute someone acknowledges a parent and asks for money/child support, it opens the door.	cr8tvlde	Sep 2012	#56
The law should deal more clearly with the issue of rape, then.	antigone382	Sep 2012	#85
I don't know about all state law, but I'm pretty sure that in Arkansas child support	Arkansas Granny	Sep 2012	#88
It is here, too	obamanut2012	Sep 2012	#153
Then our legislatures are protecting rapists	Tsiyu	Sep 2012	#91
rape... does not open the door for shit with rights. nt	seabeyond	Sep 2012	#94
Someone upthread said it..with financial responsibility come rights. Plain and simple. It's the law	cr8tvlde	Sep 2012	#127
i disagree. and all states should have laws, convicted of rape, pay financial restitution	seabeyond	Sep 2012	#130
It is not the law in every state	obamanut2012	Sep 2012	#154
If she was applying for any state aid, they had no choice.	knitter4democracy	Sep 2012	#174
Do all rapists have this right or is it specific to statutory rape?	dkf	Sep 2012	#67
The right to castration, and I'm a Liberal.	orpupilofnature57	Sep 2012	#81
This isn't going to be popular, but I disagree with the use of the term "rapist" for this guy.	Xithras	Sep 2012	#114
He threatened her	muriel_volestrangler	Sep 2012	#120
So this isn't 'legitmate' rape??	B2G	Sep 2012	#126
You blew it. The rapist had a consensual relationship with the victim's SISTER	CreekDog	Sep 2012	#128
It was -- and is -- rape	obamanut2012	Sep 2012	#156
This is one of the worst threads I've seen at DU	gollygee	Sep 2012	#133
Seriously. These threads usually draw out MRAs and victim blamers, but wow. (nt)	Posteritatis	Sep 2012	#138
Outrage and PC on DU does not substitute for common sense, legal realities,before or after the fact.	cr8tvlde	Sep 2012	#139
An adult man threatened a 14-year-old girl and raped her	obamanut2012	Sep 2012	#157
Read the article again.	knitter4democracy	Sep 2012	#175
Some of the posts in this thread make me wonder what site I'm on.	NYC Liberal	Sep 2012	#145
agreed!!!! nt	Tumbulu	Sep 2012	#181
This thread is just disgusting	obamanut2012	Sep 2012	#158
this thread disgusts	lost-in-nj	Sep 2012	#164
Is it in the child's best interest to establish a relationship with...	Deep13	Sep 2012	#177
This is something ALL states need to address	TexasBushwhacker	Sep 2012	#178