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In reply to the discussion: How many people here want a country of low energy, low tech farms? [View all]a geek named Bob
(2,715 posts)231. If you want to get a feel for the size of "the movement"
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How many people here want a country of low energy, low tech farms? [View all]
a geek named Bob
Sep 2012
OP
what about storage, heating, and refrigeration? storage forms are the issue...
a geek named Bob
Sep 2012
#245
We have about a third of an acre and we have planted over 20 trees since we moved in back in 1992.
WCGreen
Sep 2012
#256
Not that I'll get any replies, but we're headed for a Plutonomy. That's WORSE than a "gridcrash".
Zalatix
Sep 2012
#338
I got all but xerofluvent, mesic aeric halaquept, and thermic abruptic durixeralf
a geek named Bob
Sep 2012
#191
Amen! I think if Obama is elected, he will hit wind/solar hard to get our dependence on coal/oil
Frustratedlady
Sep 2012
#43
Yes, It doesn't have to be as we are or total low tech. There are other options. nt
Mojorabbit
Sep 2012
#138
how about bringing those jobs back, and not relegating others to drudge work?
a geek named Bob
Sep 2012
#13
no, only poor people getting shit wages and living in shacks without running water should do it.
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#160
We can do roof top and vertical gardens, and then put up blue houses in the desert.
a geek named Bob
Sep 2012
#20
I was thinking of Blue houses as something that sheds heat, instead of keeping it
a geek named Bob
Sep 2012
#29
If we combine the old WWII victory gardens, with vertical farms, we start getting large crops in
a geek named Bob
Sep 2012
#35
If we get architects onboard, we can manipulate sun exposure through reflective surfaces, too.
porphyrian
Sep 2012
#38
I'm not much of a metalurgist, but I wonder if we can make something that uses lightening...
porphyrian
Sep 2012
#305
or... we could try and use inductance coils around the lightning rod...hooked to a giant capacitor g
a geek named Bob
Sep 2012
#306
well... the heat could flash water into steam, running thermocouples or a
a geek named Bob
Sep 2012
#308
you can use capacitors and isolation transformers to "shield" the rest of the circuit from
a geek named Bob
Sep 2012
#311
Yeah, we can do that and have "farms" that are 100% dependent on large chemical companies
XemaSab
Sep 2012
#44
Since your magic solution to the nutrient problem was clover, I asked you if you knew what it did
XemaSab
Sep 2012
#73
This is where a smart man would say "Wow, I really need to stop talking about my ass...
XemaSab
Sep 2012
#97
glad to see that you are willing to discuss things, in spite of your issues...
a geek named Bob
Sep 2012
#101
what is your obsession with strangers on the internet "forcing" you to do things
BOG PERSON
Sep 2012
#102
also... WHY is it okay to force people to leave cities, and go farm, low tech?
a geek named Bob
Sep 2012
#117
start with the 40% of our food that is wasted. called compost. natures been doing it for a while..
piratefish08
Sep 2012
#184
If all of our food is grown in vertical structures, where are the cows going to graze?
XemaSab
Sep 2012
#246
I'm not sure we can break up the cities down to 2 or 3 floor structures...
a geek named Bob
Sep 2012
#276
That's not true. I'm saying that under a system with "roof top and vertical gardens,"
XemaSab
Sep 2012
#280
sorry, you're going to have to start getting used to the idea that tech driven farming
xchrom
Sep 2012
#30
I want a country of farms that are well positioned to survive climate change and peak oil.
kestrel91316
Sep 2012
#34
I think that's totally doable, especially if we rethink how we use urban space...
porphyrian
Sep 2012
#36
Absolutely. The obvious problem is that research is expensive, which is why so much is done...
porphyrian
Sep 2012
#204
Why spit? Does it help anything, or is is just a display of your own arrogance?
GliderGuider
Sep 2012
#51
I am a low tech, low energy farmer. The work is relentless, backbreaking and doesn't pay well
riderinthestorm
Sep 2012
#54
While I admire your work and honesty, I wish I could offer you some labor saving devices...
a geek named Bob
Sep 2012
#56
Sorry, I should have said that I expect us to descend into a world like depicted in Idiocracy but...
JVS
Sep 2012
#91
Low tech living is about as far from my utopia is it is possible to get...
a geek named Bob
Sep 2012
#232
I lived through the rolling blackouts, I'll pass on grid crash, I hate to say it but I
wutang77
Sep 2012
#98
At this point, the movement to re-build the grid makes the big oil/Ag/etc. obsolete...
a geek named Bob
Sep 2012
#130
What percentage of the electricity produced in this country is done by green energy?
MadHound
Sep 2012
#134
and we can make switch over pretty easily, as I've posted in this and other threads
a geek named Bob
Sep 2012
#135
I agree with you, technically we can make the sort of switch-over you are talking about,
MadHound
Sep 2012
#152
A wind turbine, of any size, is not going to go on a standard quarter acre urban home site,
MadHound
Sep 2012
#162
if it happens, it won't be from necessity, but because of politics. we are supposedly running
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#174
I do not want grid-crash. However, I was born in 1941 on one of those low energy, low tech farms
jwirr
Sep 2012
#136
I don't think that is even a possibility as it was not that way even back then. Until recently the
jwirr
Sep 2012
#150
Now there I can help you. I remember the house parties that my parents went to and sometimes
jwirr
Sep 2012
#156
That is great. You are really making a difference when you do something like that - especially the
jwirr
Sep 2012
#237
actually, to me, it sounds like more than a fair number want gridcrash...
a geek named Bob
Sep 2012
#145
a lot of people who never actually lived on a farm or had to make a living from one.
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#153
i know (knew) lots of people who did it low tech, and they're unanimously glad it's over.
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#158
I lived off grid for 12 mos last year. It wasn't necessarily low tech.
FedUpWithIt All
Sep 2012
#168
With the ongoing drought in the Midwest, I think we may be seeing at least some return of local
a geek named Bob
Sep 2012
#189
I don't expect any joy and/or happiness to come out of a Gridcrash...
a geek named Bob
Sep 2012
#188
As you've accused me of binary thinking... perhaps you'd care to show your evidence?
a geek named Bob
Sep 2012
#208
If it's a problem imagining how we can continue our current power structure...
a geek named Bob
Sep 2012
#210
I have - with the help of my wife - possibly found a flaw with the lights...
a geek named Bob
Sep 2012
#267
I've got one room in the attic that seems to pulse purple, then green
a geek named Bob
Sep 2012
#304
hmmm... could make reading and insulation a mutually exclusive thing.
a geek named Bob
Sep 2012
#327
After a month of eating cockroaches, you will be begging for gerbster.
The Midway Rebel
Sep 2012
#235
Gridcrash? Ignoranuses! Instead of a crash why not advocate for smart grid? We could put a bunch
lonestarnot
Sep 2012
#270
Pretty much our level of civilization is directly correlated with the amount of energy
4th law of robotics
Sep 2012
#281