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chknltl

(10,558 posts)
118. Simple question
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 10:16 PM
Sep 2012

Is it worth it? With all this objectifying, with all this treating women as something less than men because they are .....well... not men. Considering how women, ALL women face being oogled and hit on against their will, considering all the rapes, many if not most go unreported.... considering all the cultures who use religion as their tool to argue that women are less than MAN.... considering the little girls, some barely teenagers being bought and sold worldwide to satisfy a sick need.... and lest we forget the little boys who keep quiet about being molested... Is it worth it.

Perhaps this is too tough question to ask. Being a part of a culture makes it hard to see ourselves through the eyes of someone outside of our culture. Try looking into the happy faces of children at play. Is there anything on this planet more beautiful than that? Come at my question to you from that perspective. Don't you want to protect those children from the sickness of racism and sexism in our culture? Of course you do, we all do. If we have to give up something, why not give up the promoting of sexism? Can we not do this thing, if not for ourselves then for those children!

This planet has accepted sexism far too long. Any promotion of sexism or mysogeny regardless of how innocent and harmless it may seem brings about unacceptable harm to women-to ALL OF US downstream. Until we as a culture wake up to the fact that sexism is a form of racism, then everyone will continue to suffer. Our culture IS waking up and we progressives are best suited to be leading the way.

No, I'll not throw rocks. I understand that it is hard to get the connection that sexism and racism are two sides of the same coin. I have difficulty debating the point but I DO now get it. Just as Mitt Romney likely feels fully justified in his actions that got him so wealthy, both Larry Flynt and Jenny Jameson also feel justified... but ALL THINGS CONSIDERED, was it worth it?

One word for this.... ann--- Sep 2012 #1
Jesus, that photo is just grotesque. MgtPA Sep 2012 #30
Grotesque is being polite. nt Javaman Sep 2012 #40
Only because Joe is in it. banned from Kos Sep 2012 #56
The way she's looking at him MgtPA Sep 2012 #64
Maybe I am old, and I don't see it...but she looks, to me, like she has shit on her lip MADem Sep 2012 #135
Perfect description. SalviaBlue Sep 2012 #2
Me also, I can't stand that show. oldbanjo Sep 2012 #50
An interesting and important analysis frazzled Sep 2012 #3
Well said. Brickbat Sep 2012 #5
Ahh, the "gaze" good point flamingdem Sep 2012 #7
I doubt that. HappyMe Sep 2012 #10
exactly woolldog Sep 2012 #33
He's married and all she has for him onecent Sep 2012 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Sep 2012 #36
Mika: Look at me, look at me Look at me ... Joe: Shut Up Mika JoePhilly Sep 2012 #6
"So, why did she do it?" .......another excerpt from the article on "why." KoKo Sep 2012 #67
Instead of blaming the culture and VF editorial staff.... BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2012 #79
Right on. n/t MadrasT Sep 2012 #83
I find the picture to be a perfect summary of the show. JoePhilly Sep 2012 #84
It should be the other way around.... PoliticalBiker Sep 2012 #111
I agree that when Joe is not there, that show is much better ... but ... JoePhilly Sep 2012 #113
Agreed PoliticalBiker Sep 2012 #136
She's pathetic. HappyMe Sep 2012 #8
She's a sell-out. TahitiNut Sep 2012 #39
I can only stomach a few minutes of HappyMe Sep 2012 #47
"She's a sell-out." Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #92
K&R redqueen Sep 2012 #9
It absolutely can change for women. Ironically, change closeupready Sep 2012 #28
It's complicated. We don't always recognize it. redqueen Sep 2012 #32
And you know, I was trying to place where I'd seen closeupready Sep 2012 #57
Then there's always this: MadrasT Sep 2012 #69
LOLOL - too funny! closeupready Sep 2012 #80
The real question is, why does anyone watch that show? Dash87 Sep 2012 #11
I don't Liberalynn Sep 2012 #20
It's sad, she could have inherited a halfway decent brain. Barack_America Sep 2012 #12
creepy. magical thyme Sep 2012 #13
The Vanity Fair that had Lebron James as King Kong Maximumnegro Sep 2012 #14
Growwl, I am SO exotic (not) marions ghost Sep 2012 #15
Mika is an embarrassment to herself, IMO. closeupready Sep 2012 #16
Mika is MSNBC's version of . . . TomClash Sep 2012 #17
Yes, this photo adds to the "WTF" over the title of her book... tosh Sep 2012 #18
I did not know that. MadrasT Sep 2012 #25
I imagine her Dad has a degree of disappointment SaveAmerica Sep 2012 #19
such a stupid looking pose. Whisp Sep 2012 #21
A slob in the chair and an airhead on the table. Their show is garbage. AlinPA Sep 2012 #22
That "show" is right out of Mad Man. He is Don Draper and she his devoted secretary. Peregrine Took Sep 2012 #35
I sometimes think of her as Alice Kramden. n/t AngryOldDem Sep 2012 #38
right on heaven05 Sep 2012 #23
So much wrong with this....where to start? livetohike Sep 2012 #24
Subtitled MadrasT Sep 2012 #29
This is pathetic. Also, Mika may be the least likable person on TV. Arugula Latte Sep 2012 #26
I'm not a big fan of Mika regarding her commentary...but I find her to be incredibly gorgeous! titaniumsalute Sep 2012 #27
Did she have a gun to her head? Gold Metal Flake Sep 2012 #31
And this is us saying we don't want this "tart-like" behavior Fawke Em Sep 2012 #43
They are not "news anchors." Not even close. MADem Sep 2012 #120
True. We should adopt the British term for them... Fawke Em Sep 2012 #123
They aren't even readers or presenters--they usually cut away to someone else who delivers the MADem Sep 2012 #127
The old saying, is apt LiveNudePolitics Sep 2012 #34
Don't complain, then, when people don't take you seriously. AngryOldDem Sep 2012 #37
She has nice legs. Cleita Sep 2012 #41
lols...agree. n/t KoKo Sep 2012 #46
She does have nice legs. OnyxCollie Sep 2012 #55
She's a female Alan Colmes. tjdee Sep 2012 #42
Didn't Joe's dead intern fall off such a table and break her neck? Bandit Sep 2012 #44
Gonna disagree with most people here berni_mccoy Sep 2012 #45
seriously? you think she actually set up the photo shoot? cali Sep 2012 #49
Do you think it was not consensual? 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #97
If she was doing a photo shoot by herself... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2012 #53
What about Joe flaunting his sex appeal? tjdee Sep 2012 #58
^^^ THIS ^^^ MadrasT Sep 2012 #61
There are two sides to sexuality. berni_mccoy Sep 2012 #72
wtf? "any heterosexual female is likely to be preening for "some" dude" cali Sep 2012 #74
Wrong. MadrasT Sep 2012 #78
WTF does sexuality have to do w/essential journalism, anyway? closeupready Sep 2012 #85
Neither Mika nor Joe are journalists--that's what people aren't getting, here. MADem Sep 2012 #122
Mika was a CBS News correspondent early in her career. closeupready Sep 2012 #125
Barbara Walters used to give us the nightly news, too--but that's not what she does on THE VIEW. MADem Sep 2012 #126
Wow. Also, I don't dislike Joe. tjdee Sep 2012 #96
I was using the words of the person I responded to. berni_mccoy Sep 2012 #101
Mika is not in the same sphere as Diane Sawyer nt cash__whatiwant Sep 2012 #109
Mika is NOT in ANY category that Diane Sawyer is in....One has class and onecent Sep 2012 #129
Zbiggy's daughter is NOT a journalist. Comparing her to Diane Sawyer is NOT appropriate. MADem Sep 2012 #121
She's such an ass. nt valerief Sep 2012 #48
Unreal... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2012 #51
Hard to take her seriously, now. This morning she was wearing a porno-type dress.... Obamamite Sep 2012 #52
I've never taken her seriously. How can you when she does nothing but bat her eyes, K Gardner Sep 2012 #62
I keep picturing Andrea Mitchell in that pose--not the same erotic effect--at all! librechik Sep 2012 #54
I would never picture Andrea Mitchell in that pose. OnyxCollie Sep 2012 #59
Oh dear. MadrasT Sep 2012 #60
lol librechik Sep 2012 #75
I hope he shaves his legs first. n/t Cleita Sep 2012 #93
Not quite the point. WinkyDink Sep 2012 #73
I don't think I've ever seen more than 5 seconds of this show deutsey Sep 2012 #63
That's a really inappropriate shot. bluesbassman Sep 2012 #65
Mika has done things like that more than once. MineralMan Sep 2012 #66
She is NOT a journalist. MADem Sep 2012 #124
I was using the term loosely. It has MineralMan Sep 2012 #132
Journalists do not "opine" in the course of delivering the news of the evening (or the morning). MADem Sep 2012 #134
How long do you think it took ALL of them to adjust her "dress" so it would cover her panties cr8tvlde Sep 2012 #68
Not really as pornographic as Republicans running a guy with hidden Swiss bank accounts Bucky Sep 2012 #70
which has shit to do with the topic at hand. cali Sep 2012 #76
Oh to be a fly on the wall.... AnneD Sep 2012 #71
Devastatingly pathetic... The more things change, the more they stay the same.... hlthe2b Sep 2012 #77
The only people calling her names & diminishing her worth are the ones "outraged" by the picture. Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #81
Not quite. MadrasT Sep 2012 #86
Certainly. But I think it's reprehensible to call a woman names or diminish her worth Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #90
I don't see much in the way of name calling here. MadrasT Sep 2012 #105
Isn't there an element of irony in pillorying someone for something on the obstensible grounds Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #114
Sure, I can see irony there. n/t MadrasT Sep 2012 #116
Do you think it's right to label women "airheads" 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #98
No I don't think that's right. I don't think we should call people names. MadrasT Sep 2012 #107
Ok but phrases like air-head, tart, grotesque, saying that she can't be taken seriously 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #108
I know it's awful to say, but ... she DOES look pretty hot ... Bake Sep 2012 #82
Not really. She's old now and a bit plump. closeupready Sep 2012 #87
Plump? What do you like, skeletons? n/t Cleita Sep 2012 #94
She does have nice legs - she's a runner and very fit overall. polichick Sep 2012 #103
The only thing that separates Mika from the female anchors on FOX... Mike Daniels Sep 2012 #88
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Sep 2012 #89
What is the point of Morning Joe? AngryAmish Sep 2012 #91
brought to you by Conservative value: misogyny. chknltl Sep 2012 #95
Outstanding. That should be an OP. redqueen Sep 2012 #112
With due respect to Larry Flynt DonCoquixote Sep 2012 #117
Simple question chknltl Sep 2012 #118
here is your answer DonCoquixote Sep 2012 #119
Not actually demonizing anyone, we agree on much, here is where i come from: chknltl Sep 2012 #128
bookmarking to read this later, when not busy. nt seabeyond Sep 2012 #131
It basically documents a learning experience for me. chknltl Sep 2012 #137
Pleasant surprise DonCoquixote Sep 2012 #138
Last few times i saw her she wasn't sewing mouths chknltl Sep 2012 #139
I understand DonCoquixote Sep 2012 #141
We Are Indeed On The Same Wavelength. chknltl Sep 2012 #142
i would have missed this excellent post if not for an alert on the OP. you are truly awesome. nt seabeyond Sep 2012 #130
A woman's professional and mental abilities really ought to be judged by her appearance 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #99
That article sums up everything I thought when I saw that photo. stevenleser Sep 2012 #100
Mika said that her father and husband don't approve of that picture... polichick Sep 2012 #102
Not a fan of the show, or Mika, but... TDale313 Sep 2012 #104
um... cash__whatiwant Sep 2012 #106
Profoundly silly photo, IMO. hifiguy Sep 2012 #110
She looks really good and works very hard to keep herself up. Thinkingabout Sep 2012 #115
That's all she's good for and that's all that conservative men think we women are good for. Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2012 #133
Good thing that in these dire times progressives of all stripes can come together and give some slut 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #140
I really don't care. Both are as irrelevant LakeArenal May 2020 #143
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