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In the discussion thread: Ugh, DU. The anti-Muslim sentiment here is getting to me. [View all]

Response to HiPointDem (Reply #10)

Sun Sep 16, 2012, 10:38 AM

KansDem (24,343 posts)

176. I was enraged when they murdered over 3,000 of my fellow Americans...

...on 9/11.

But, apparently the Bushistas thought differently...

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218 replies	Author	Time	Post
Ugh, DU. The anti-Muslim sentiment here is getting to me. [View all]	cali	Sep 2012	OP
We just aren't as religious	treestar	Sep 2012	#1
The US is one of the most religious countries in the world. It just has better police & civil order.	Bernardo de La Paz	Sep 2012	#61
No, we just practice "organized rage" called wars, occupation, drones and the like. nt	nanabugg	Sep 2012	#134
Which apparently had nothing to do with the Benghazi riot.	randome	Sep 2012	#136
This is Planet Earth, not heaven.	aquart	Sep 2012	#142
And what percentage of the killing in the Middle East has been done by us or are allies?	Puregonzo1188	Sep 2012	#158
NO, we are fat, rich, lazy and can't be bothered.	renie408	Sep 2012	#177
The black spot	tama	Sep 2012	#152
You lost me when you said "the rage is understandable"	Progressive dog	Sep 2012	#2
This message was self-deleted by its author	randome	Sep 2012	#4
i'd be enraged if saudi arabia was randomly bombing people in the us, canada, mexico, etc.	HiPointDem	Sep 2012	#10
I was enraged when they murdered over 3,000 of my fellow Americans...	KansDem	Sep 2012	#176
Were you enraged when the US ginned up a proxy war in Afghanistan?	Comrade Grumpy	Sep 2012	#201
You'll get no argument out of me...	KansDem	Sep 2012	#208
THEY? "They, who"?	mzteris	Sep 2012	#202
"They?"	KansDem	Sep 2012	#206
Eh, I can't say I agree.	eqfan592	Sep 2012	#15
There was no "defense of the mobs" in the OP...	ljm2002	Sep 2012	#25
It was implied	Progressive dog	Sep 2012	#57
all you had to do was ask.	cali	Sep 2012	#75
Cali wasn't saying "we don't react this way"...	awoke_in_2003	Sep 2012	#92
Here is one IMO	lunasun	Sep 2012	#165
someone once said that when poverty and oppression kills hope	roguevalley	Sep 2012	#39
Yes it is	abelenkpe	Sep 2012	#67
How about the rage we showed when 911 happened...all	movonne	Sep 2012	#89
That is not the same thing	Progressive dog	Sep 2012	#133
The question is why are they violent. People here get enraged all the time.	dkf	Sep 2012	#3
US citizens excuse violence all the time	Kindly Refrain	Sep 2012	#16
According to many reports...	ljm2002	Sep 2012	#31
It's sounding to me like Libya had nothing to do with riots.	dkf	Sep 2012	#45
Yes, the widespread riots are concerning...	ljm2002	Sep 2012	#60
They're not exactly demanding we curtail our rights	ToxMarz	Sep 2012	#91
There are riots over this video in countries with free speech and freedom of religion	oberliner	Sep 2012	#195
And?	ToxMarz	Sep 2012	#211
And they understand the distinction between the nation and the video	oberliner	Sep 2012	#212
No one said they were confused...	ToxMarz	Sep 2012	#215
But why protest at the US consulate there?	oberliner	Sep 2012	#216
You're fooling yourself if you think that the relative comfort	sufrommich	Sep 2012	#50
Just as education and prosperity contribute to it.	randome	Sep 2012	#52
Actually this kind of behavior isn't unique to the middle east...look at gang violence.	dkf	Sep 2012	#73
Very astute point! eom	BlueMTexpat	Sep 2012	#108
It seems to me to be a virtual parallel to what's going on in the Middle East.	nolabear	Sep 2012	#5
I'm sorry but forcing women to defer to men.	randome	Sep 2012	#6
i'm sorry but bombing people because they have different customs doesn't fit my definition of	HiPointDem	Sep 2012	#12
We're bombing people because of their customs now?	randome	Sep 2012	#27
You don't remember when we bombed Saudi Arabia for not allowing women to drive?	Nye Bevan	Sep 2012	#53
I would be more in favor of economic blockades and other measures to right that wrong.	randome	Sep 2012	#54
we want to be the world's police??????	lunasun	Sep 2012	#166
Do you think advocating for equal rights is NOT a good use of American influence?	randome	Sep 2012	#175
that's not why we're doing it but it's certainly one of the PR techniques used to make it ok in the	HiPointDem	Sep 2012	#59
Yeah, it's easy to sweep it all under the rug when it's 'over there' instead of 'here'.	randome	Sep 2012	#65
sweep what under the rug, bombs?	HiPointDem	Sep 2012	#71
Sweep away the complex reasons we are involved in ANY country's business.	randome	Sep 2012	#76
When has our military ever gotten involved for human rights?	Puregonzo1188	Sep 2012	#159
I didn't say our miltary specifically was involved.	randome	Sep 2012	#161
Bombing them because of their customs??? Oh my goodness....	liberallibral	Sep 2012	#129
glad you're not a comedy writer, either. despite the smiley laugh track, you're not funny.	HiPointDem	Sep 2012	#130
We don't bomb them because of customs, it's mostly resources like oil..	snooper2	Sep 2012	#149
no we just rationalize & justify it in those terms. which is what all the "oooh, look at all these	HiPointDem	Sep 2012	#162
LOL, at one time people said the same thing about slavery. Brilliant! Congrats!	Logical	Sep 2012	#155
There are people here who would fit that discription.	eqfan592	Sep 2012	#19
Good advice, eqfan.	cbayer	Sep 2012	#22
Thanks :)	eqfan592	Sep 2012	#26
I'm not sure what part of Post #6 is advocated by DUers.	randome	Sep 2012	#34
I meant here as in the US, not the DU.	eqfan592	Sep 2012	#64
Got it! Sorry!	randome	Sep 2012	#66
Which is why we need...	awoke_in_2003	Sep 2012	#93
Yeah, Republicans today ARE a mob.	randome	Sep 2012	#102
Buncha guys on faux agree with you.	Jakes Progress	Sep 2012	#21
"Calling" for women to be subservient and "forcing" them to be are 2 different things.	randome	Sep 2012	#30
Maybe I missed the mobs murdering abortion providers here...	MNBrewer	Sep 2012	#97
Plenty of home-grown mobs to encourage murder.	randome	Sep 2012	#100
So there are no mobs murdering abortion providers?	MNBrewer	Sep 2012	#107
No. We don't have mobs murdering abortion providers.	randome	Sep 2012	#110
And what's even LESS civilized is to take those people up on their invitation to do so	MNBrewer	Sep 2012	#118
Your problem isn't your terminology,	Jakes Progress	Sep 2012	#139
I'd understand your post if you responded to one of my earlier ones.	randome	Sep 2012	#145
Peace. I hope you understand some day.	Jakes Progress	Sep 2012	#157
Ambassador Susan Rice: Libya Attack Not Premeditated	riderinthestorm	Sep 2012	#205
Trusting the source with an American name	Jakes Progress	Sep 2012	#218
enforced poverty and drones torture thats ok? i would riot too.	roguevalley	Sep 2012	#40
Funny how none of the protests mention those things.	randome	Sep 2012	#46
the rage is the root of everything and we ignore it at our peril	roguevalley	Sep 2012	#74
On the flip side...	awoke_in_2003	Sep 2012	#94
All of which can be easily corrected thanks to the Internet.	randome	Sep 2012	#98
"I'm sorry but forcing women to defer to men."	abelenkpe	Sep 2012	#70
Some do want to do that.	randome	Sep 2012	#72
Those who were murdered in Libya	BlueMTexpat	Sep 2012	#114
I get you.	randome	Sep 2012	#119
Thanks for the response.	BlueMTexpat	Sep 2012	#124
Agree with Randome!!!	liberallibral	Sep 2012	#128
No kidding	4th law of robotics	Sep 2012	#180
kr.	HiPointDem	Sep 2012	#7
I find the 'we don't react that way'	HappyMe	Sep 2012	#8
That's not civilized behavior, either.	randome	Sep 2012	#9
But whenever that happens, it too gets condemned/mocked/criticized on here.	NYC Liberal	Sep 2012	#63
And that is as it should be.	HappyMe	Sep 2012	#125
It's funny how quickly things can get ugly around here...	luvspeas	Sep 2012	#11
On DU, it's more anti-fundamentalist sentiment	meow2u3	Sep 2012	#13
we're not invading and bombing israel. i rarely see anything here about jewish fundamentalists.	HiPointDem	Sep 2012	#17
Happens all the time here with Christians	B2G	Sep 2012	#14
Agree!!! Some people pose as free-thinkers, but their biases are very evident. nt	patrice	Sep 2012	#116
Sorry, but fundamentalist religious sects of any stripe are, by their very nature, uncivilized.	MadHound	Sep 2012	#18
Very well stated, MadHound.	tosh	Sep 2012	#23
Maybe some countries aren't "civilized" because we have been	joeybee12	Sep 2012	#32
I'm not stating that countries are uncivilized,	MadHound	Sep 2012	#37
Not anti-muslim here.	Whovian	Sep 2012	#20
Fuck all religious fundamentalist pricks....	Joe the Revelator	Sep 2012	#24
You're right.	Cleita	Sep 2012	#28
I blame religious people for a lot of the world's problems. Christians, Muslims, Jews, etc...	Comrade_McKenzie	Sep 2012	#29
I'm with you Comrade	LiberalLovinLug	Sep 2012	#115
Well... Not allowing women to drive, and executing homosexuals,	Nye Bevan	Sep 2012	#33
Agree. While specifically attacking extremism of any stripe seems appropriate,	cbayer	Sep 2012	#35
I find it "offensive" that an opinion frequently floated is ...	etherealtruth	Sep 2012	#36
I admire their personal, private, honest, and very deep jihad. That's not something that is	patrice	Sep 2012	#117
A right wing nut is identical in emotional and mental state to	RegieRocker	Sep 2012	#38
No, US meddling is good! Tax dollars funneled to dictators....	WorseBeforeBetter	Sep 2012	#41
I tend to think it comes from people who actually	sufrommich	Sep 2012	#42
The rage is not understandable.	Deep13	Sep 2012	#43
The ones who commit murder over insults are everything you mention and worse.	CBGLuthier	Sep 2012	#44
I don't see any complaints about anti-Republican sentiment here.	Speck Tater	Sep 2012	#47
There is some bigotry and hypocrisy	ProSense	Sep 2012	#48
totally agree	Whisp	Sep 2012	#49
The vast majority of muslims wouldn't kill over an insult	bhikkhu	Sep 2012	#51
+1 Needed to be said. nt	Poll_Blind	Sep 2012	#55
I agree	davidthegnome	Sep 2012	#56
That's funny. Many Free Republic posters can't even spell 'illiterate'.	randome	Sep 2012	#58
Geeze....	WiffenPoof	Sep 2012	#62
Indeed, imagine a horde of rightwinger Bruce Willises	stupidicus	Sep 2012	#68
"The rage is understandable..."	Alduin	Sep 2012	#69
no, the film is clearly the spark in the tinder	cali	Sep 2012	#78
Yes...	Alduin	Sep 2012	#80
Not B-film; Z-grade film	BarackTheVote	Sep 2012	#88
This has nothing to do with Islam and everything to do with social backwardness.	Odin2005	Sep 2012	#77
"without an attempt to understand context" - What context makes these murders ok?	Ohio Joe	Sep 2012	#79
"The violence isn't justifiable but the rage is understandable."	Spitfire of ATJ	Sep 2012	#81
It is fair to criticize rioters	bluestateguy	Sep 2012	#82
no one said it wasn't, but way to miss the point of the op.	cali	Sep 2012	#85
Political Science	warrprayer	Sep 2012	#83
+1	2on2u	Sep 2012	#84
What ever flaws the United States has.	iandhr	Sep 2012	#86
That's why I've skipped those threads.	JNelson6563	Sep 2012	#87
This message was self-deleted by its author	bupkus	Sep 2012	#90
"It''s probably not the majority but it's a sizable minority. "	greiner3	Sep 2012	#95
People DO protest in our country	BarackTheVote	Sep 2012	#96
May I suggest "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins?	lamzydivy	Sep 2012	#99
I've read it. May I suggest this isn't only or even chiefly about religion?	cali	Sep 2012	#146
I agree with this sentiment, and I say that as an atheist and fan of The God Delusion. n/t	backscatter712	Sep 2012	#150
Totally agree. I don't why some DUers can't seem to grasp that this film is just the tip	Puregonzo1188	Sep 2012	#160
I've come to belief that some people here don't want to face	cali	Sep 2012	#169
+1000 nt.	polly7	Sep 2012	#163
Yes. Exactly. nt	laundry_queen	Sep 2012	#194
But there have been riots in Australia and Europe	oberliner	Sep 2012	#197
This post was hidden by jury decision.	lamzydivy	Sep 2012	#101
The arrogance is a generally Western and particularly American response	Spider Jerusalem	Sep 2012	#103
It shouldn't matter what brought us to this point, though.	randome	Sep 2012	#109
See, that's just the sort of arrogance I'm talking about though	Spider Jerusalem	Sep 2012	#112
I see your point.	randome	Sep 2012	#121
It's poverty that does that	Spider Jerusalem	Sep 2012	#126
Agreed. We can 'afford' the concept of equal rights.	randome	Sep 2012	#131
Surreal !	lunasun	Sep 2012	#168
Thank you	malokvale77	Sep 2012	#164
a voice of reason...refreshing	lunasun	Sep 2012	#167
I agree	graham4anything	Sep 2012	#104
In what context is this "understandable" and not uncivilized, backward and violent	MNBrewer	Sep 2012	#105
A abhor all extremists, no matter the religion, also can't stand anarchists, libertarian extremists,	progressivebydesign	Sep 2012	#106
Abhor yourself	tama	Sep 2012	#156
Freedom? Slavery: when "it's the other guy", it's ALWAYS "the other guy" who caused me/us to	patrice	Sep 2012	#111
You are correct on this.	limpyhobbler	Sep 2012	#113
Islam is still a young religion	B Stieg	Sep 2012	#120
1400 years is young?	MNBrewer	Sep 2012	#122
Propaganda responders rule the American populace	just1voice	Sep 2012	#123
Sorry, but when hoards of people riot and cause violence because of a cartoon or a movie....	liberallibral	Sep 2012	#127
CONTEXT.	Igel	Sep 2012	#132
Excellent	tama	Sep 2012	#190
Me, too. Perhaps some real data on the US in eternal wars, mostly of choice,	cr8tvlde	Sep 2012	#135
This war is no more anti-Muslim than the wars of conquest for CA, TX, NM and AZ were	cr8tvlde	Sep 2012	#137
SURVEY: KILLING OF BIN LADEN WORSENED AMERICANS’ VIEWS OF U.S. MUSLIMS	BOG PERSON	Sep 2012	#138
I swear, you can't distinguish some posts from stuff over at FR...	Surya Gayatri	Sep 2012	#140
"Blacks, gays and Jews never did anything wrong. Muslims deserve to be abused"	Douglas Carpenter	Sep 2012	#141
Cali, I don't think you're seeing much anti-Muslim sentiment on DU.	PragmaticLiberal	Sep 2012	#143
Checklist	JVS	Sep 2012	#144
I thought the information coming to light shows evidence of planned attacks by an organization?	theinquisitivechad	Sep 2012	#147
Why don't the Central American countries react "that way"?	riderinthestorm	Sep 2012	#148
Because	tama	Sep 2012	#154
So because the indigenous people are less sophisticated, they will act with greater restraint?	riderinthestorm	Sep 2012	#198
I know you are not following	tama	Sep 2012	#199
Civilized or sophisticated is simply semantics. The Aztecs felt their culture was superior	riderinthestorm	Sep 2012	#207
I am in agreement	riverbendviewgal	Sep 2012	#151
I lived in Libya for 4 years	MFM008	Sep 2012	#153
Let's drop their fundamentalists in the desert with our fundamentalists ...	eppur_se_muova	Sep 2012	#170
Hopeless Barbarians	billyball	Sep 2012	#171
my, my. that's stupid.	cali	Sep 2012	#172
How am I being welcomed ?	billyball	Sep 2012	#173
You didn't read what they wrote.	renie408	Sep 2012	#200
Your remark was none too intelligent, either.	randome	Sep 2012	#204
OTOH,	Doctor_J	Sep 2012	#174
On this I agree with you 100%.	renie408	Sep 2012	#178
And they should stop beheading women for daring to want equal rights.	randome	Sep 2012	#182
Of course I do! Naturally I support the beheading of women!	renie408	Sep 2012	#184
My point is that there are obvious differences between the two cultures.	randome	Sep 2012	#186
No, that is the spin on your point that you are making now.	renie408	Sep 2012	#187
Yes, well, it's hard to feel empathy for those Mideast states...	randome	Sep 2012	#188
"Those are things we SHOULD disparage and work to remove."	renie408	Sep 2012	#191
"Protests against us"? No, I think it is everyone's job to press for equal rights.	randome	Sep 2012	#192
It is a flat lie to say that I have implied that they are just like us.	renie408	Sep 2012	#196
My apologies if I took your point further than I should have.	randome	Sep 2012	#203
Now, I will say...they are just like us.	renie408	Sep 2012	#209
I've seen Christians receive far worse for far less.	4th law of robotics	Sep 2012	#179
there's flat out bigotry here against Muslims	cali	Sep 2012	#181
Where?	4th law of robotics	Sep 2012	#210
I hope you are alerting on any "flat out bigoted" posts you see.	Nye Bevan	Sep 2012	#214
Oh FFS, where? I've been called a bigot because I object to women having to wear a burqa	riderinthestorm	Sep 2012	#217
Cali, it's complicated and people don't like complicated answers...	JCMach1	Sep 2012	#183
Thank you! Just like there are Christians who believe the planet is 6000 years old and others	renie408	Sep 2012	#185
100% agree.	closeupready	Sep 2012	#189
People deserve respect. Ideas do not. They must stand on their own. nt	Romulox	Sep 2012	#193
I'm with Cali.	99Forever	Sep 2012	#213

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