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jberryhill

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Sat Sep 15, 2012, 04:15 PM Sep 2012

The Outstanding Hypocrisy Here At DU [View all]

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Okay, so what I see on the news are a lot of people demonstrating their displeasure with something someone said.

A few of them, as with any angry mass demonstrations do destructive things. Now, when that happens in protests we like, "they must be agitators, provocateurs, etc."

But we have quite a few folks here taking the position "what's wrong with these people is that they don't understand freedom of speech."

That is true to a large extent, because they didn't grow up with it. But this criticism misses the the elephant in the room.

By and large, the protests consist of people gathering, chanting, carrying banners and signs, and not doing any harm to anyone.

In others, they are engaging, exercising, and thus expanding their own freedom of speech.

The ones doing violent things cannot be a majority of the thousands upon thousands who, by and large are simply walking down a street, shouting and gesticulating.

The outstanding hypocrisy here is that the simple observable fact of the overhelming preponderance of non-destructive protestors, is the folks here who say:

"These people need to understand free speech!"

Uh... Wtf do you think most of them are DOING?
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Oh, you mean the "crazed mobs"? Scootaloo Sep 2012 #1
those were NOT crazed mobs dixiegrrrrl Sep 2012 #24
I think that one was definitely different. sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #34
Luckily, Al quada has emerged to take credit for it dixiegrrrrl Sep 2012 #47
Well in Libya we first made an agreement with Gadaffi to keep the fairly sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #55
Thus the quote marks Scootaloo Sep 2012 #43
dude no shit.. sometimes the mind boggles.... dionysus Sep 2012 #50
+1 2on2u Sep 2012 #2
Well said! n/t Spazito Sep 2012 #3
Didn't realize attacks on embassies were peaceful free speech. nt geek tragedy Sep 2012 #4
Only when Muslims do it. lamzydivy Sep 2012 #7
How many of the protestors did that? jberryhill Sep 2012 #11
We're talking about the violent attacks on geek tragedy Sep 2012 #31
Most of the people out on the streets weren't attacking anything. backscatter712 Sep 2012 #16
Societies that tolerate this kind of violent, primitive response geek tragedy Sep 2012 #28
Agreed. But I think the media has a lot to do with people's perceptions. Curtland1015 Sep 2012 #5
I don't have any issue with the peaceful protestors. Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #6
Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #9
Why should they need to understand free-speech, it's in OUR Constitution, not theirs. JaneyVee Sep 2012 #8
Constitutions have no connection with whacked-out religious principles. lamzydivy Sep 2012 #10
Oh I love free-speech. But trying to understand why some over there don't is ridiculous. JaneyVee Sep 2012 #12
Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #14
anti-islamic garbage from the cesspools of the far right HiPointDem Sep 2012 #18
We seem to have peace here in the US Paulie Sep 2012 #19
That's a ridiculous generalization. Blue_In_AK Sep 2012 #20
Based on the posts in this thread mythology Sep 2012 #27
You're trying to convince us they don't deserve to live, aren't you? treestar Sep 2012 #26
Most do codify religion into their constitutions Paulie Sep 2012 #13
Yes, you are correct, I should have said "Rational Constitutions". lamzydivy Sep 2012 #15
yes, plenty -- either in their constitutions or in their law. for example, norway only just this HiPointDem Sep 2012 #21
+100 HiPointDem Sep 2012 #17
I usually agree with you Aerows Sep 2012 #23
or it could be that americans are the most propagandized people in history and these stories HiPointDem Sep 2012 #25
Probably is the truth Aerows Sep 2012 #29
in my experience with local issues, the media always gets part of it wrong. & where there are HiPointDem Sep 2012 #36
So this is concocted bs? Aerows Sep 2012 #38
I'm always skeptical of reporting dealing with highly politicized matters & try to consult sources HiPointDem Sep 2012 #40
Concocted bullshit Aerows Sep 2012 #46
Riots Aerows Sep 2012 #22
Kay + Are M_M Sep 2012 #30
Are you insinuating that this is Aerows Sep 2012 #33
Finally, someone has dared to speak the truth behind the hyperbole... Surya Gayatri Sep 2012 #32
I agree. OneGrassRoot Sep 2012 #35
Yeah, chanting "Death to America", and "Obama, Obama, we are all Osama" is SoooooooOOOooo peaceful MNBrewer Sep 2012 #37
If you don't see this as a bunch of bullshit Aerows Sep 2012 #49
Indeed RobertEarl Sep 2012 #39
Observation ProSense Sep 2012 #41
I'm expecting Aerows Sep 2012 #52
As an old 60's anti-war Democrat.... cr8tvlde Sep 2012 #42
What "those people" (overseas Muslims) don't understand Warpy Sep 2012 #44
Aren't "See? THOSE people don't deserve freedom!" threads fun? Posteritatis Sep 2012 #45
+1, so fucking true. The entire Muslim world has been slandered to shit and back. joshcryer Sep 2012 #54
K & r The Midway Rebel Sep 2012 #48
indeed, it's part of the percieved "war on islam" that underlies their protest stupidicus Sep 2012 #51
Yep. On DU they've been called jihadists and extremists joshcryer Sep 2012 #53
Locking, feel free to repost in Meta taterguy Sep 2012 #56
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