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Zalatix

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48. Whoa. Hate American workers and American freedoms much?

Reply to Nye Bevan (Reply #44)

Sat Sep 15, 2012, 11:07 AM

Sep 2012

So much for yet another drive-by post...

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France: Yet another nation turns against globalism: 80% see it as a job-killer [View all] Zalatix Sep 2012 OP

the world is waking up to this bullshit. JRLeft Sep 2012 #1

And it's about damned time Populist_Prole Sep 2012 #3

Buy locally and produce locally jsr Sep 2012 #2

Excellent! dreamnightwind Sep 2012 #4

It's very high, and the Democratic Party and liberals are making a huge mistake JDPriestly Sep 2012 #5

Interesting post dreamnightwind Sep 2012 #9

Here's a great graph of the causes of the budget deficit. pampango Sep 2012 #14

You left out the TRADE DEFICIT as a contributor to the budget deficit. PBS link: Zalatix Sep 2012 #19

Yes it is "by a slightly circuitous route." OTOH, the Bush contributions to the deficit are not pampango Sep 2012 #34

Circuitous or not, it is still a contributor. Zalatix Sep 2012 #35

A contributor, but a tiny one (hardly an earthquake) compared to the Bush legacy (which has caused pampango Sep 2012 #40

Eliminate the domestic budget entirely and the trade deficit will still drag us down. Zalatix Sep 2012 #41

Before someone we all know shows up with that inaccurate Pew poll, allow me to pre-empt: Zalatix Sep 2012 #11

Too late. BTW that "inaccurate" poll shows opposition to globalization growing to 68% by 2012 if pampango Sep 2012 #16

Who here doesn't see through your tactics here? Zalatix Sep 2012 #17

Sounds like you acknowledge that "protectionism was a Republican thing". FDR would have agreed. pampango Sep 2012 #20

Protectionism WAS a Republican thing. Just like abolishing slavery WAS a Republican thing. Zalatix Sep 2012 #22

FDR did't fight higher tariffs because it was a republican thing, but because it was a BAD thing. pampango Sep 2012 #33

Let's be straight: Support for "Buy American" means support for TARIFFS. Zalatix Sep 2012 #37

No it does not. It means that local/state/federal governments would have to buy from American pampango Sep 2012 #42

Yes it does. Stop being myopic. Protectionism began among the workers, not the FAR RIGHT. Zalatix Sep 2012 #45

No. Protectionism was rejected by workers and progressives repeatedly in our history. pampango Sep 2012 #46

Protectionism rejected by workers? Now you're just engaging in wishful thinking. Zalatix Sep 2012 #49

It was rejected by workers 100 years ago, again during FDR's administration and today pampango Sep 2012 #50

Workers rejected protectionism 100 years ago? LOL! Whatever you need to say to comfort yourself. Zalatix Sep 2012 #53

"Again, tariffs protect the working class." And yet it is only republicans who have ever promoted pampango Sep 2012 #60

You keep retreating back to that Republican thing. Zalatix Sep 2012 #63

"Republicans support tariffs, ergo tariffs are bad". No. republicans support tariffs because pampango Sep 2012 #66

Still retreating to that Republican argument. You still can't accept the opposition is BIPARTISAN. Zalatix Sep 2012 #68

I am glad that you are finding common ground with - let's call it the non-corporate wing pampango Sep 2012 #71

The working class is UNITING against foreign outsourcing. Zalatix Sep 2012 #74

The poster from CATO has now devolved into calling *everyone else* a "Republican". Romulox Sep 2012 #81

32% in 2009, 44% in 2010 - at that rate of increase it would be 68% by now. pampango Sep 2012 #13

Sorry, I already pre-empted your tired, off-the-mark poll with a REAL poll. Zalatix Sep 2012 #18

Tea Party Repubs are rubes, and we all know it. The REAL money men at CATO agree with you 100% Romulox Sep 2012 #21

Ohhhhhhhh, STING. Zalatix Sep 2012 #23

Oh, and I forgot... *crickets* *crickets* Zalatix Sep 2012 #28

The 'strange bedfellows' argument, always a favorite. We all have them. Anything on this page pampango Sep 2012 #39

Still pushing that "workers opposed Protectionism" canard, I see. Zalatix Sep 2012 #59

Still not disputing the historical basis that I provided for the statement, I see. n/t pampango Sep 2012 #61

I'm saying the "historical basis" you claim is a load of <censored> Zalatix Sep 2012 #65

History is <censored> and irrelevant. Sure can't argue with that logic. pampango Sep 2012 #67

Your interpretation of history is laughably wrong. Zalatix Sep 2012 #69

Why is is laughably wrong? I need specifics (facts) not fancy slogans and assertions. pampango Sep 2012 #72

We're getting tired of your Cato Institute talking points. Zalatix Sep 2012 #77

You contention that "free trade" hasn't decimated the US working class. Let's start there. nt Romulox Sep 2012 #79

You are not a "progressive". There is nothing "progressive" about you. Advocating for the powerful Romulox Sep 2012 #80

"Strange bedfellows" means you agree on one area, while DISAGREEING on most others. Romulox Sep 2012 #78

If so many Democrats support offshoring then why is Obama attacking Romney for OFFSHORING??? Zalatix Sep 2012 #24

Unfortunately for us, we don't have certain advantages they have in France. truedelphi Sep 2012 #6

Meanwhile, the effort to discredit the new President has taken a familiar turn,... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #7

I'd count that as a fault. Zalatix Sep 2012 #8

They accuse everyone they don't like of SEX! It's getting old, people like sex and they sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #12

What they consider a "smear" just makes them look like prudes. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #15

Globalization is a job killer. JRLeft Sep 2012 #10

That's how they fool us tama Sep 2012 #26

I'm supporter of globalism tama Sep 2012 #25

Which would mean those rioting crazies in Libya could move right next door to you. Zalatix Sep 2012 #27

I'm not afraid tama Sep 2012 #29

Your refusal to accept the basic facts would get many of the rest of us killed if you had any power. Zalatix Sep 2012 #30

I don't want power tama Sep 2012 #31

What you want is for Middle Eastern voters to have a say about your reproductive rights. Zalatix Sep 2012 #32

Now you know tama Sep 2012 #36

It is the inescapable consequence of your "borderless world". Zalatix Sep 2012 #38

Just like on the European continent, the people have no rights? pampango Sep 2012 #52

Europe doesn't have open borders with the Middle East. Please keep up. We're talking about Zalatix Sep 2012 #54

Of course not, but they have open borders with many more countries than we do (0). pampango Sep 2012 #62

Other nations will not open their borders to each other. You're just wishfully thinking AGAIN. Zalatix Sep 2012 #64

The Netherlands opened it border with Germany and yet it still exists today. pampango Sep 2012 #70

I am opposed to the idea of opening our borders. For THEIR sake. Zalatix Sep 2012 #73

Since you support free trade, perhaps you support this? Zalatix Sep 2012 #85

Whoa. Xenophobic much? (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #44

Whoa. Hate American workers and American freedoms much? Zalatix Sep 2012 #48

I love my American-made cars. Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #57

But you don't like American freedoms. Zalatix Sep 2012 #58

If I bought a Honda, I'd be DAMN sure it wasn't made in Alabammy! Romulox Sep 2012 #84

Wow. France is quitting the EU? That ultimate free trade, no tariffs, region? Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #43

Only the far-right National Front wants France to get out of the EU. Fortunately, they lost pampango Sep 2012 #47

Read a newspaper, for the love of god. The EU is currently in an existential crisis. Romulox Sep 2012 #82

It should be completely obvious to any reasonable person that globalism is a late stage terminal Zorra Sep 2012 #51

So the EU should be abolished? Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #55

Those should be decisions made by the citizens of those nations. I don't live there. nt Zorra Sep 2012 #75

Greece, Ireland, Spain, and others struggle to remain in the union. PLEASE inform yourself Romulox Sep 2012 #83

Globalism is for RegieRocker Sep 2012 #56

No Shit. We have the worlds greatest consumer market but out leaders sell us out like we brewens Sep 2012 #76