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50. Some of the associates were members of a separate foundation that recieved some money

Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:58 AM

Sep 2012

from people who also supported conventional agriculture.

Damning stuff there.

/Don't trust those scientists. They might have a bias. Instead listen to my blog which already has all the answers.

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You remember that big anti-organic food study last week? Guess who funded it. [View all] MadHound Sep 2012 OP

"To say that conventional foods are safe is like saying that cigarettes are safe" Confusious Sep 2012 #1

Well, the main thrust of the story isn't about that quote, MadHound Sep 2012 #5

I just followed the link in your OP Confusious Sep 2012 #7

No, you didn't just follow the link in my OP MadHound Sep 2012 #11

I had another thought I wanted to add, so I added it. Confusious Sep 2012 #19

News reports I saw said the study showed that organic was "no more nutritious" than conventional MNBrewer Sep 2012 #25

That was my sense about it too when I saw it. AllyCat Sep 2012 #58

I've never heard that organic is more nutritious, to begin with. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #90

Actually after reading the original study, I think organic food is much better than I thought fasttense Sep 2012 #44

The organic vs chemically raised xxqqqzme Sep 2012 #56

However GM crops will kill you and modify your DNA Angry Dragon Sep 2012 #2

This is why studies should always be taken with a grain of salt gollygee Sep 2012 #3

Or more to the point, if you don't have the tools to assess the validity of the results Gormy Cuss Sep 2012 #12

a real scientific researcher does not have an agenda. Real research is to determine fact pasto76 Sep 2012 #24

wtf? our education realm has nothing to do with how corruptible our scientific establishment is, HiPointDem Sep 2012 #37

i beg to differ druidity33 Sep 2012 #41

The causality is from the money men on down; including the money men defunding government HiPointDem Sep 2012 #42

that doesn't sound like disagreement to me... druidity33 Sep 2012 #65

however, educators aren't *driving* that fucked-upness. they're reacting, and in many cases HiPointDem Sep 2012 #66

Unfortunately, students in colleges are now taught about the safety truedelphi Sep 2012 #64

No surprise at all. Dr. Ingram Olkin should be ashamed. n/t Avalux Sep 2012 #4

I don't think the debate is about "Nutrition" ThoughtCriminal Sep 2012 #6

No, it's not Confusious Sep 2012 #9

Organics are important for reasons beyond the health benefits. Blanks Sep 2012 #45

Of course, of course. theinquisitivechad Sep 2012 #8

Science is great. mathematic Sep 2012 #10

So did they take money from vested interests or did they not? sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #15

They did not. mathematic Sep 2012 #20

I don't agree or disagree with you Confusious Sep 2012 #22

It was in the press release mathematic Sep 2012 #28

It's also on the report itself which was published in the Annals of Internal Medicine Iris Sep 2012 #86

'No external funding'. Do they accept funding from vested interests sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #23

Actually the organic trade association has been claiming organic foods are more nutritious for years Major Nikon Sep 2012 #72

Not at all surprising. There was plenty wrong with the "conclusions" to begin with. drokhole Sep 2012 #13

Thank you for that!!! As someone that has to watch their cholesterol, I am going to have to read jillan Sep 2012 #16

My pleasure! Pastured eggs, purchased directly from a local farm... drokhole Sep 2012 #27

Thanks once again :) jillan Sep 2012 #33

If you have problems with Cholestrol Confusious Sep 2012 #63

I remember that Mother Earth News article... Blanks Sep 2012 #47

Thank U very much, drokhole, for all the links truedelphi Sep 2012 #92

I was totally dumbfounded by that report! How could food without pesticides & in their original jillan Sep 2012 #14

Exactly. Who needs a study to know that food food without chemicals sprayed sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #17

I guess more people need to use common sense. Poison in your food, in your body = bad. That stupid Pisces Sep 2012 #18

No surprise laundry_queen Sep 2012 #21

I didn't believe it for a second. Cha Sep 2012 #26

Three points longship Sep 2012 #29

I think the reason people buy organic food is because they do not want to eat sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #36

If you don't want to eat chemicals cyborg_jim Sep 2012 #43

so DDT is just a chemical like everything else? KurtNYC Sep 2012 #49

Yes it is. cyborg_jim Sep 2012 #54

Carbon is not a chemical. It's an element. KurtNYC Sep 2012 #57

It's both cyborg_jim Sep 2012 #87

What's "chemical carbon" and why is it in our food? girl gone mad Sep 2012 #77

Well, not being a member of the affluent Middle class, I would not know about trends sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #59

It's not an insult cyborg_jim Sep 2012 #88

Nothing is going to make ANYTHING 'all good'. But some things do make things sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #91

But this is the point: your opinion does not trump science cyborg_jim Sep 2012 #94

Well then if all you say is true, just tell everyone what is in the food they are being sold sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #95

You seem to be injecting something into my opinion that isn't there cyborg_jim Sep 2012 #96

Yes, more flavorful. longship Sep 2012 #46

Isn't that tama Sep 2012 #69

Oh my gosh! burrowowl Sep 2012 #30

Study is not wrong or false. The press reporting about the conclusions is skewed. Blame the media.nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #31

Premise of the study was to attack the strawman: "Organic = more nutritional" KurtNYC Sep 2012 #51

Thank you for this moment of sanity. klook Sep 2012 #67

no shit. and the followup study: long term impact of pesticides in food. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #74

I'm not surprised in the least arikara Sep 2012 #32

Most studies don't receive that kind of media attention.. girl gone mad Sep 2012 #78

I never buy organic thinking it's more nutritious... Zookeeper Sep 2012 #34

The study is legit ..... this is not the first such study .... the brits did the same study already Botany Sep 2012 #35

Right. And was there some pressing misconception that needed to be corrected, there? Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #38

+1 Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #71

LOL arikara Sep 2012 #81

I could pump vitamin C into horse manure... KansDem Sep 2012 #39

Horse manure tama Sep 2012 #70

I just assumed pecwae Sep 2012 #40

A lot of the discussion is about the hazards of pesticides... Blanks Sep 2012 #48

Some of the associates were members of a separate foundation that recieved some money 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #50

It's all in the wording - "no more healthy" is not the same as "no more harmful". haele Sep 2012 #52

Stanford gets a C minus or D plus for this-- nightscanner59 Sep 2012 #53

I think we've come to expect crap like that is horseshit. nt valerief Sep 2012 #55

Anybody Know of Cancer-Related Studies of Inorganic vs Organic Food? triplepoint Sep 2012 #60

Well to be fair, the premise is true... Scootaloo Sep 2012 #61

how much did the corporate media get to repeat the lie over and over RepublicansRZombies Sep 2012 #62

I don't believe that they necessarily get paid for it arikara Sep 2012 #82

It was scarce research dollars wasted on reinventing the wheel Warpy Sep 2012 #68

It was only a matter of time that this came out matt819 Sep 2012 #73

k&r - thanks for posting this. nt bananas Sep 2012 #75

Although this story is about lies and being bought out, Curmudgeoness Sep 2012 #76

So, the most prestigious University in central Ca. can be bought, ... CRH Sep 2012 #79

The OP is a classic logical fallacy. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #80

Wow, that sure is some faulty logic there, MadHound Sep 2012 #83

I think that was Odin's point. Iris Sep 2012 #84

Let's not forget the Gates Foundation Cachet stumblnrose Sep 2012 #85

The hell you say. Can't say I'm surprised. I NEVER pay attention to articles that tell me... Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #89

Since this study was funded by the notorious Gates Foundation, among others, former9thward Sep 2012 #93