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MannyGoldstein

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62. In your linked articles, I don't see an explanation of

Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:24 AM

Sep 2012

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why Obama is appealing this decision. That appeal will take months to resolve, past the end of his presidency in the awful event that he loses in November.

Also, the first article claims that the NDAA does not apply to US citizens. I believe that the judge here ruled that it does, which is why she struck it down as unconstitutional.

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CUE THE VONAGE THEME! rocktivity Sep 2012 #1

OK, I'll ask : what is this reference to the Vonage theme? ashling Sep 2012 #12

The Vonage theme goes Pab Sungenis Sep 2012 #21

Vonage picked up this song for their commericals rocktivity Sep 2012 #24

LOL! tabasco Sep 2012 #27

Cool! Canuckistanian Sep 2012 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author HankyDub Sep 2012 #46

it isn't actually efficient. HankyDub Sep 2012 #47

Thanks for that. Reminds me of all the Asian cover bands that toured Nam "back in the day." TahitiNut Sep 2012 #64

Yikes, after 2 min of that I started spilling state secrets.Fortunately my cat wasnt taking notes.nm rhett o rick Sep 2012 #65

A win via a loss... proverbialwisdom Sep 2012 #18

Fantastic news - Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2012 #2

K&R patrice Sep 2012 #3

thanx to Chris Hedges and few others who walked the talk dixiegrrrrl Sep 2012 #4

Daniel Ellsberg, Noam Chomsky, Lawrence Wilkerson. proverbialwisdom Sep 2012 #20

Don't forget Jeremy Scahill. Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2012 #38

Ah, yes, Jeremy!! Bohunk68 Sep 2012 #61

Sorry for the unintentional oversight. I don't know enough about this case as I should. proverbialwisdom Sep 2012 #67

Wow, that *is* good news! Chorophyll Sep 2012 #5

The judges opinion was wonderful to read. Someone who actually believes in not giving up sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #6

Hope he doesn't travel in any small aircraft in the near future. MNBrewer Sep 2012 #7

The judge is a she: ProSense Sep 2012 #14

"Our members urge Obama to stop defending this obscene abuse of executive authority, woo me with science Sep 2012 #16

Then why is the President fighting the court on this? MannyGoldstein Sep 2012 #22

I don't think he is. ProSense Sep 2012 #23

Since the NDAA is the yearly funding CitizenPatriot Sep 2012 #26

Obama IS ALREADY APPEALING this good judge's permanent injunction ruling 99th_Monkey Sep 2012 #51

Don't forget the two bi-partisan assholes who inserted it in the bill. Fuddnik Sep 2012 #29

You've got to check out THE CONSPIRATOR (Redford) Special Features interview with Senator Levin. proverbialwisdom Sep 2012 #66

Senator Carl Levin: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0505566/ proverbialwisdom Sep 2012 #79

Yup, he is fighting it. woo me with science Sep 2012 #32

Surprize! nt MannyGoldstein Sep 2012 #33

Maybe that's thebest way to create 'settled law' assuming everyone does their part including public. proverbialwisdom Sep 2012 #76

Thanks! Solly Mack Sep 2012 #42

She is a woman, Judge Katherine B. Forrest sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #15

Her, too, then! MNBrewer Sep 2012 #17

K&R Good News! n/t Egalitarian Thug Sep 2012 #8

that's great news. barbtries Sep 2012 #9

That's great Manny! Hubert Flottz Sep 2012 #10

Fantastic! Oilwellian Sep 2012 #11

I don't get to post much, but when I do… Efilroft Sul Sep 2012 #13

Excellent, excellent news. woo me with science Sep 2012 #19

until the supremes decide imd is a ok madrchsod Sep 2012 #25

k&r for the Constitution ... finally. n/t Laelth Sep 2012 #28

K&R Damn good to know there is at least one good judge out there idwiyo Sep 2012 #30

Standing & Clapping. bvar22 Sep 2012 #31

Finally, some sanity Canuckistanian Sep 2012 #34

Permanent injunction? Stryder Sep 2012 #36

Not if Obama has his way. He's already appealing this judge's "permanent" injunction 99th_Monkey Sep 2012 #52

Thank God. Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2012 #37

I don't understand so-called "liberals" who defend laws like this. limpyhobbler Sep 2012 #39

Third Wayers MannyGoldstein Sep 2012 #40

Can you name one on DU? joshcryer Sep 2012 #44

Actually, on here they said there was no indefinite detention clause. Zalatix Sep 2012 #59

Which side is that? Most actual conservatives didn't like it either and are cheering this ruling. pediatricmedic Sep 2012 #41

Obama is already appealing this good judge's permanent injuntion ruling. 99th_Monkey Sep 2012 #49

Cool! The judges agree with Obama! joshcryer Sep 2012 #43

One Judge. Sadly, Obama is appealing this judge's permanent injunction ruling 99th_Monkey Sep 2012 #50

Obama has no control over the judicial branch. joshcryer Sep 2012 #53

What? 99th_Monkey Sep 2012 #54

That is correct. joshcryer Sep 2012 #55

k&r nt steve2470 Sep 2012 #45

Sadly Obama is ALREADY APPEALING the Permanent Injunction decision 99th_Monkey Sep 2012 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author Duchess St.Rollins Sep 2012 #56

Boy am I Confused oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #57

Please read this... Duchess St.Rollins Sep 2012 #58

Thanks oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #60

In your linked articles, I don't see an explanation of MannyGoldstein Sep 2012 #62

The elephant in the room here is not the appeal, Vattel Sep 2012 #63

True, but not true in the way you're implying... Duchess St.Rollins Sep 2012 #69

If only what you are saying were the whole truth. Vattel Sep 2012 #70

Maybe... Duchess St.Rollins Sep 2012 #73

The idea that the President has the constitutional right to ignore federal statutes Vattel Sep 2012 #74

Actually, yes it does... Duchess St.Rollins Sep 2012 #68

The author of the article explains it, but does not provide any footnotes denoting the Zorra Sep 2012 #71

It's just an opinion piece... Duchess St.Rollins Sep 2012 #72

What I'm looking for is the legal source of the appeal dates/deadlines cited by the author. Zorra Sep 2012 #78

Yikes, you're right MannyGoldstein Sep 2012 #75

K&R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Odin2005 Sep 2012 #77