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Julian Assange: Hunted by America's Violent Empire [View all] xchrom Sep 2012 OP

k/r marmar Sep 2012 #1

A little confused Did I Just Type This Sep 2012 #2

Sorry, but if you read that and that's all you got from the article... joeybee12 Sep 2012 #3

It's a metaphor. freedom fighter jh Sep 2012 #4

It is nothing like that treestar Sep 2012 #10

His fear is that Sweden will extradite him to the United States. freedom fighter jh Sep 2012 #13

then i guess we can compare it to men allowed to rape and progressive defenders seabeyond Sep 2012 #15

There is more than one issue with Assange. freedom fighter jh Sep 2012 #17

to suggest he does not have to face the rape charges cause he "fears" something beyond is not seabeyond Sep 2012 #18

There ARE no charges. There are only allegations. Two years later, now going on sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #46

The former would not exist except for the latter. n/t Egalitarian Thug Sep 2012 #21

The idea that he would not get a fair trial even in the US is beyond crazy treestar Sep 2012 #25

Yeah, let's look at that "no case" thing a moment, shall we? LadyHawkAZ Sep 2012 #28

The denial of facts is amazing. We had rabid elected officials calling for his sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #53

propaganda is a powerful tool LadyHawkAZ Sep 2012 #58

If they really said such a thing treestar Sep 2012 #90

Yes it does matter, a lot. When elected officials name someone as a 'terrorist' and many sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #102

It isn't an "if" LadyHawkAZ Sep 2012 #122

He's not a Muslim terrorist treestar Sep 2012 #89

"He's the wrong religion for that"??? LadyHawkAZ Sep 2012 #120

Do you know anything about this case? I think I asked you this question before sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #36

He would not be lynched in the United States either treestar Sep 2012 #24

Journalists are being lynched in the US? Really? Gotta link? struggle4progress Sep 2012 #141

Look at it this way... AntiFascist Sep 2012 #23

Sure sounded that way to me. When elected officials call for the assassination sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #37

Anyone who doubts the seriousness of the investigation against Assange... AntiFascist Sep 2012 #60

Yes, there is absolutely no doubt about this. The denial of reality is interesting. sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #87

I don't see that at all. George II Sep 2012 #12

Study compare vs equate. Iggo Sep 2012 #5

nice Vattel Sep 2012 #135

kick. navarth Sep 2012 #6

if Assange was being hunted by a violent empire he would be dead. grantcart Sep 2012 #7

So that explains how he was able to live in England for two years hack89 Sep 2012 #8

It explains why he was living under arrest for two years reorg Sep 2012 #19

But how was he protected from the evil empire? hack89 Sep 2012 #20

You may still get your wish reorg Sep 2012 #27

I don't think the US wants anything to do with him hack89 Sep 2012 #29

You are free to think what you like, but what you think does not align with the sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #54

The "Espionage Act" reorg Sep 2012 #57

Interesting, I had read that it was a controversial law and should have been sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #59

And yet he lived unmolested for 2 years. hack89 Sep 2012 #61

Unmolested? reorg Sep 2012 #62

Isn't rendition extra-judicial? hack89 Sep 2012 #63

Are you talking to yourself? reorg Sep 2012 #66

Good to know "violent empires" obey the laws. hack89 Sep 2012 #69

Sure, they make the laws so they are useful for their purposes reorg Sep 2012 #71

How do you think this will all play out? hack89 Sep 2012 #72

If you call being arrested, kept in isolation for ten days, released only because of sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #77

The point was he was not extradited, did not undergo rendition or was "disappeared" hack89 Sep 2012 #79

You have been in nearly every thread on sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #85

So how do you think this will end? hack89 Sep 2012 #88

No the grand jury is about Manning treestar Sep 2012 #92

The Grand Jury is about Assange. Manning's case is past the GJ stage. sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #96

Right. They have documents. How about, oh, I don't know...releasing them? randome Sep 2012 #104

How about you check for facts before you type? His attorneys in the US HAVE sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #108

Where are these documents? randome Sep 2012 #109

Lol, okay. If randome says it, ignore all the evidence, (he does), it must be true! sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #112

Ah, Sabrina 1, I am not against you. randome Sep 2012 #113

I think war criminals who blow people away for no reason and who torture and sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #117

We are, I suspect, in total agreement about war criminals. randome Sep 2012 #127

Sure you do! sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #129

Who wished that? treestar Sep 2012 #91

Because killing a celebrity creates a martyr LadyHawkAZ Sep 2012 #32

He is neutralized right now hack89 Sep 2012 #33

You're beginning to get the idea, LadyHawkAZ Sep 2012 #34

He can't run Wikileaks hack89 Sep 2012 #35

Sigh LadyHawkAZ Sep 2012 #39

They don't need to touch Assange to discourage further leakers. hack89 Sep 2012 #42

Anyone who realizes Manning's decision to mouth off LadyHawkAZ Sep 2012 #44

It helps to leave the option open reorg Sep 2012 #45

Assange is NOTHING like Ellsberg.... George II Sep 2012 #50

That's funny, Daniel Ellsberg seems to disagree with you. As you were informed downthread. Egalitarian Thug Sep 2012 #52

What Ellsberg said is that the treatment Assange is getting... George II Sep 2012 #97

What Ellsberg said, in his own words: reorg Sep 2012 #111

According to whom? LadyHawkAZ Sep 2012 #55

Please re-read the comments made by Ellsberg...thanks. George II Sep 2012 #98

Please clarify your statement first LadyHawkAZ Sep 2012 #119

Here you are... George II Sep 2012 #131

Maybe you should have read the whole statement? LadyHawkAZ Sep 2012 #133

By making himself so public. And by constantly drawing attention to the sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #38

What demands for his murder? hack89 Sep 2012 #41

Rep. Peter King, Michael Huckabee, called for his assassination and/or sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #43

How dare they complain his sexual assault allegations treestar Sep 2012 #9

i am so disgustedly offended by this. hyperbole. how dare they compare the two. seabeyond Sep 2012 #11

So you don't like him, therefore he is a rapist. sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #40

"Be vewy, vewy quiet. I'm hunting wabbits." randome Sep 2012 #14

Well here you are again, and as always, your insightful comments sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #47

Huh??? George II Sep 2012 #16

+1 Chorophyll Sep 2012 #30

Martyrs generally do not choose to be martyrs. And I doubt sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #48

Comparing Assange to Daniel Ellsberg......... George II Sep 2012 #49

Really? How about we let Ellsberg speak for himself. Far be it from me sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #51

Clint Eastwood was admired by many. We let him speak for himself. randome Sep 2012 #64

So you put Ellsberg in the same class as Clint Eastwood? sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #81

"Daniel Ellsberg is one of Wikileaks most prominent supporters. " NCTraveler Sep 2012 #74

Whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg: I Congratulate Ecuador for Standing Up to British Empire reorg Sep 2012 #76

'Ego, freak'. Mmm, and Ellsberg thinks he is a hero. sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #78

I am not irrational or angry. NCTraveler Sep 2012 #101

I see the size of the egos of almost all public figures. It is almost a requirement to be in the sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #105

No. I am saying that his ego is so big... NCTraveler Sep 2012 #107

How ridiculous. Let me see, he wanted to be falsely accused of sexual assault so sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #110

What is he charged with in the US? NCTraveler Sep 2012 #114

you must have missed post #60 reorg Sep 2012 #116

When I post a comment, I say exactly what I intend to say. If something is not there in sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #118

I used your quotes. NCTraveler Sep 2012 #121

Then you will be able to link to the quote you conjured up this implication from: sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #123

Well you said "off with his head" NCTraveler Sep 2012 #149

No one other than he knows if that accusation is false or true. George II Sep 2012 #134

lol... ok, if you say so George II fascisthunter Sep 2012 #138

He is an editor and publisher of an International News Organization. sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #140

"Assange has always been available to them" - which is why he's seeking asylum in Equador? George II Sep 2012 #144

What has that got to do with the fact that I stated? That is a totally separate sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #151

Ellsberg faced trial over the very thing he did treestar Sep 2012 #94

Wrong. The equivalent would be if Ellsberg = Assange. Which he does not. sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #99

"The equivalent would be if Ellsberg = Assange. Which he does not." NCTraveler Sep 2012 #103

That is what I said. Did you read my comment at all? sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #147

We completely agree and you still want to argue. NCTraveler Sep 2012 #150

"Assange = The New York Times" ~ Daniel Ellsberg ... sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #152

Assange... George II Sep 2012 #146

Links please. I know on the internet you can say anything you want although when sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #148

Links? I know it's only Wikipedia, but you confirmed what I said already... George II Sep 2012 #153

BINGO! Excellent post! George II Sep 2012 #145

And he won't be a martyr. He has people like Manning to cover that role for him. nt NCTraveler Sep 2012 #68

You have it correctly. nt msanthrope Sep 2012 #80

I'm surprised you consider Manning to be a martyr reorg Sep 2012 #83

Can you explain that please? You do know that Manning is only one of possibly sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #82

You can't be serious. NCTraveler Sep 2012 #106

'Really no explanation needed after reading this' Um, yes, you were asked a pertinent sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #124

Wypijewski is using the comparison to illustrate prejudice reorg Sep 2012 #56

+1 treestar Sep 2012 #93

K&R n/t rachel1 Sep 2012 #22

Trash thread DevonRex Sep 2012 #26

I'll admit it's an interesting comparison. Robb Sep 2012 #31

Crap NCTraveler Sep 2012 #65

+1. thank you. exactly. nt seabeyond Sep 2012 #67

So we are back to simplistic slurs again reorg Sep 2012 #70

I think you replied to the wrong post. NCTraveler Sep 2012 #73

Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #75

What slur? No clue what you are talking about. NCTraveler Sep 2012 #100

You have nothing to say reorg Sep 2012 #115

well done! fascisthunter Sep 2012 #137

So even if he goes to Ecudaor he's still vulnerable Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2012 #84

Nice to see that the same smearing liars are here on this thread... 99Forever Sep 2012 #86

People don't agree with you on a message board on the internet treestar Sep 2012 #95

People should agree on a Democratic board about basic human rights. sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #125

no shame fascisthunter Sep 2012 #126

Any thread on Assange will be heavily targeted and propagandized. woo me with science Sep 2012 #128

Exactly. 99Forever Sep 2012 #130

So true, and perfectly explained. Zorra Sep 2012 #132

Let's readers of DU know government propagandists from the regular folks here fascisthunter Sep 2012 #136

Like the collusion between Wikileaks and Russia over the Moscow files? joshcryer Sep 2012 #139

Wypijewski's piece shows just how much analytical power the Left has lost, by abandoning struggle4progress Sep 2012 #142

Historical materialism tama Sep 2012 #143

America isn't a violent empire. Ridiculous. But there are lots of women in Ecuador for Julian. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #154

Glad you said that... George II Sep 2012 #155