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In reply to the discussion: Not liking an offensive movie is not an excuse to riot and kill people. [View all]felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)255. Inciting violence in such a volatile part of the world
unfortunately is not that hard. Who ever made this film knows exactly what they are doing, they are despicable.
Look at what Fox news does to people in this country, there are always people who are vulnerable to propaganda. I wonder if someone made money doing this.
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Not liking an offensive movie is not an excuse to riot and kill people. [View all]
Odin2005
Sep 2012
OP
No, but I think the guy who made this is also responsible for the rioting and deaths.
cali
Sep 2012
#1
I can understand demonstrating against a movie -- but killing someone and getting completely
JDPriestly
Sep 2012
#165
The "blasphemy" horseshit almost got a Pakistani girl with Down's Syndrome lynched.
Odin2005
Sep 2012
#60
Sure, and it got one of my ancestors burned at the stake in the reign of Bloody Mary Tudor
Spider Jerusalem
Sep 2012
#67
So, a US female politician would bear responsibility for getting raped over there
joeglow3
Sep 2012
#125
I agree. However, I was essentially called a supporter of rape for your sentiment just yesterday
joeglow3
Sep 2012
#245
Well if that's the case maybe we should just take their fucking Internet away...
snooper2
Sep 2012
#108
Do those same 'human rights' apply to the estimated 500,000 Iraqi children who
coalition_unwilling
Sep 2012
#135
Religious fundamentalists of three religions caused this, Islamic, Christian and Jewish
Cleita
Sep 2012
#225
No. The fucknuts who are rioting and killing over a stupid little half-assed film
Codeine
Sep 2012
#8
So you are against laws that say you can't yell "FIRE!" in a crowded theater?
Tigress DEM
Sep 2012
#69
The fucknuts that made this film wanted this to happen - intended for violence to happen.
ehrnst
Sep 2012
#116
"insane, superstitious vermin" - why am I flashing back to 1930s Germany? I almost
coalition_unwilling
Sep 2012
#137
PPS: In the twenties and the thirties in Germany, the Nazis routinely referred to the Jews as
coalition_unwilling
Sep 2012
#179
PPPPS: Dehumanizing people by calling them 'vermin' is but one step on the road to exterminating
coalition_unwilling
Sep 2012
#215
Ah, not content to call me a Nazi, you do a little doubling down of you own...
Lizzie Poppet
Sep 2012
#246
Little history lesson for you: during the Tet offensive of January 1968, forces
coalition_unwilling
Sep 2012
#253
You keep erecting straw men out of my words, and then knocking them down. I nowhere
coalition_unwilling
Sep 2012
#257
And commenting about a provocative, hateful film is not giving an excuse..it's making an observation
nanabugg
Sep 2012
#2
also, are you saying in the name of human rights we should bomb them in revenge?
graham4anything
Sep 2012
#17
apologies, you didn't I was attempting a corrolation aand i self edited the above
graham4anything
Sep 2012
#110
but I didn't say it as a personal, I said it as a corrolation (a leads to b is c)
graham4anything
Sep 2012
#89
Is there anyone, ANYONE on DU who is saying otherwise? That doesn't mean those stoking the violence
hlthe2b
Sep 2012
#5
The Middle East is not the United States. We might like to asert our views and philosophy on them...
hlthe2b
Sep 2012
#16
What do you mean by "demand public employees have absolutely no right whatsoever to free speech"?
cleanhippie
Sep 2012
#184
Hate speech that incites violence NOT protected. Try calling for harming the President, if you doubt
hlthe2b
Sep 2012
#40
We have a Republican official calling for acid attacks on female DNC Senators today...
hlthe2b
Sep 2012
#50
Although I wouldn't label it as either necessarily religious nor dangerous, I do agree that
LanternWaste
Sep 2012
#159
Frteeedom of speech is a universal human right AS WEE SEE IT. It is not international law. at all.
robinlynne
Sep 2012
#235
People do not have a right not to be offended in a free society thankyou.ive been saying this 4ever
leftyohiolib
Sep 2012
#21
Are you fluent in English? "Held to account" does not refer only to legal ramifications...
hlthe2b
Sep 2012
#161
Denunciation is the first step. Not defend under the guise of a 'free speech' argument...
hlthe2b
Sep 2012
#164
I have not seen the film in question so I have no point of reference for judgement on it.
bighart
Sep 2012
#166
It is possible to both denouce the message AND support free speech, at the same time.
cleanhippie
Sep 2012
#186
Unless you mean to acuse those who are denouncing this ugly, bigoted, inciting filmaker of NOT
hlthe2b
Sep 2012
#193
Will you apply the same standard to Salman Rushdie? Or the Danish cartoonist?
cleanhippie
Sep 2012
#197
Have you even bothered to see the promotional video? Give me a break. Hate DOES incite.
hlthe2b
Sep 2012
#206
I would hope not. But, I can not deal with your defending hate speech and bigotry
hlthe2b
Sep 2012
#219
"I can not deal with your defending hate speech and bigotry, so I am done." You dropped this...
cleanhippie
Sep 2012
#220
And you have taken every opportunity afforded by a so-called "free speech" argument to
hlthe2b
Sep 2012
#224
So you are saying Libyans and Egyptians are too stupid to see the difference...
Odin2005
Sep 2012
#12
Nearly everyone on DU agrees that there is no excuse for murder. Iraq was, for example,
JDPriestly
Sep 2012
#167
this was not libya govt, but people reacting. so we can no more place the blame on libya govt than
seabeyond
Sep 2012
#14
And it is likely that this is a phoney incident ginned up by some intelligence agency...
rfranklin
Sep 2012
#20
i never go into making it something i do not know.... but, yes. there are people that backed this
seabeyond
Sep 2012
#33
Its like the morons in the repubteapartylibertarians taking guns to town hall
graham4anything
Sep 2012
#19
right. intentionally lighting a powder keg isn't right either. this is why
piratefish08
Sep 2012
#22
Either human rights are universal or else slavery and female genital mutilation is OK.
Odin2005
Sep 2012
#234
That declaration would look very different if drafted by the Cherokee nation! For example
nadinbrzezinski
Sep 2012
#250
Exactly, but the teaching in American schools that cultural relativism is bunk
nadinbrzezinski
Sep 2012
#258
Propanganda. Richard Engel just reported that people in the Middle East were told that...
polichick
Sep 2012
#34
And the truth is that the film will be ignored by most. It isn't the sort of thing that would
JDPriestly
Sep 2012
#58
And then there were the revelations in the New York Times about the memos prior to 9/11.
JDPriestly
Sep 2012
#169
Now there will be a whole lot of people who are going to see it to figure out what this is about.
dkf
Sep 2012
#88
no, it's not. But there is such a thing as recognizing the predictable consequences of one's actions
Douglas Carpenter
Sep 2012
#39
Yep - this didn't happen in a vacuum. Much like the Rodney King riots were not about Rodney
ehrnst
Sep 2012
#103
I don't know that you would have a fire..pretty much need an open flame for gasoline to ignite
snooper2
Sep 2012
#114
It's not about religion or the movie. It's about INCITING A RIOT on purpose.
Tigress DEM
Sep 2012
#55
I tend not to take much stock in the reasons that the MSM gives for these things
KurtNYC
Sep 2012
#68
because that is what mobs do. Also, who are "these folks". Is it the entire populous? I doubt it,
still_one
Sep 2012
#104
My whole point has been the creator needs to answer for it instead of hide...
Blue_Tires
Sep 2012
#140
Maybe they saw Michelle Bachmann on one of her rants about Muslim conspiracies?
ehrnst
Sep 2012
#157
Uh, maybe because the films says certain kinds do violence & then certain kinds do violence . . . ?
patrice
Sep 2012
#177
Make that ALL sides: recall why bin Laden went to Afghanistan & why, for decades, the U.S.
patrice
Sep 2012
#207
I'm suggesting that the filmmakers & the rioters could be in collusion. How was the film financed?
patrice
Sep 2012
#221
i.e. there're more than 2 sides & at least some of those sides change back-and-forth with others. nt
patrice
Sep 2012
#208
To answer your question: Because they see no difference between the US Government and Israel
1-Old-Man
Sep 2012
#191
libya was not a reaction to the movie, it was a deliberate strike, not reactionary. Egypt was.
larkrake
Sep 2012
#242
If folks can't deal with freedom of speech or believe they have the right not to be offended
TheKentuckian
Sep 2012
#267