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Poll_Blind

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39. I'm sorry, I should ask: Do you actually believe in the democratic process?
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 08:36 PM
Sep 2012
"I make the assumption that the people who are running the show are running the show."


That sounds fatalistic and apathetic if you're trying to indicate that voting is useless. Why would you say such a thing?

PB
Because Obama wanted it. Apparently he'd asked why God was taken out. gateley Sep 2012 #1
Maybe it was a typo Politicalboi Sep 2012 #2
Oh I see... You're trying to make this like the RNC vote debacle??? progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #3
Have you even watched this video?! This has nothing to do with the RNC. Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #11
Five bucks says PBD won't respond to you on this thread derby378 Sep 2012 #20
Oh I see... You didn't see it or watch the video Autumn Sep 2012 #18
Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #130
Can you supply the details here please? begin_within Sep 2012 #4
You have to watch the video, it's about 3 minutes. Everything about this issue is in that video. nt Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #6
Yes, well, that would, indeed, be nice, but for the liberalhistorian Sep 2012 #123
Not good. Scuba Sep 2012 #5
Not a foolproof way to decide things RZM Sep 2012 #7
Yes was lucky to get 50% Angry Dragon Sep 2012 #14
If you don't have 2/3rds, you are supposed to have a roll call vote. The higher ups did not kelly1mm Sep 2012 #16
Do you know the name of the woman who talked to Villaraigosa at the podium? Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #57
I don't. I could not make out what she said though. I think she said " ....... delegates kelly1mm Sep 2012 #74
Thanks. Man, I'd like to know who that lady is. Because, if you listen closely enough you can... Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #86
Thanks for that - I could not make out the first part. This is really Bull Crap! It kelly1mm Sep 2012 #92
She's not gonna reveal her name Skeptical George Sep 2012 #113
Sounded like she had a North Carolina/Texas/Georgia accent. Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #118
Obama caved again ann--- Sep 2012 #8
Uh huh... SidDithers Sep 2012 #75
The real vote was NO!! Angry Dragon Sep 2012 #9
It could have gone either way, but neither side sounded like 2/3rds needed. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2012 #60
WTF!!!! Arctic Dave Sep 2012 #10
Yep, looks like he lied to me derby378 Sep 2012 #12
Lies make baby Jesus cry! Kurovski Sep 2012 #100
Someday, conventions will be a thing of the past. TheCowsCameHome Sep 2012 #13
And let's agree that we should all eat twinkies on Fridays! socialindependocrat Sep 2012 #15
What's so unbelivable? Earth_First Sep 2012 #17
HINT: It only passes if there is a clear 2/3 majority. Which is why he called THREE VOTES on... Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #21
I think you may want to re-read my response... Earth_First Sep 2012 #37
I consider myself jaded, I guess. But maybe I'm naive: I DO expect honest behavior at... Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #45
That's why we have leaders and managers. randome Sep 2012 #19
Well, that settles it. enlightenment Sep 2012 #23
No, I just want to point out that it doesn't necessarily paint the convention as... randome Sep 2012 #29
Why did they call a vote three times if the vote didn't matter? Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #25
I don't have to explain anything. I wasn't there. randome Sep 2012 #32
The return of the smoke-filled back room? derby378 Sep 2012 #36
I edited my post probably at the same time as your post. randome Sep 2012 #40
Duly noted, thx (n/t) derby378 Sep 2012 #43
When a judge over-rules a jury he says so. He doesn't lie about the jury results. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2012 #124
I'm sorry, I should ask: Do you actually believe in the democratic process? Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #39
It's not a democracy when the rules allow for over-ruling. randome Sep 2012 #41
Let me take you back to the Hughes Amendment of 1986 derby378 Sep 2012 #27
That's the legislative process. It allows for those things to happen. randome Sep 2012 #44
So if/when the Repugs ...... oldhippie Sep 2012 #38
No. Never give up. randome Sep 2012 #49
huh?!?! magical thyme Sep 2012 #61
An election is decided by the numbers. randome Sep 2012 #65
boy, you are twisting yourself in knots there. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #111
My original point was that V. didn't 'lie' when it was his call to make. randome Sep 2012 #115
Vote? We don't need no steenkin' votes ....... oldhippie Sep 2012 #63
How many votes does a President take? randome Sep 2012 #66
This wasn't a President's vote ..... oldhippie Sep 2012 #87
I'm NOT okay with the outcome. But I'm not going to lose any sleep over it, either. randome Sep 2012 #89
Lol, yes, let's all just 'follow the leader' even if s/he just happens to be a cheater, sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #55
We did follow the leader where Bush was concerned. We went to war. randome Sep 2012 #59
Speak for yourself, I never followed that moron. But some members of our party sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #99
Yikes!!! Cali_Democrat Sep 2012 #22
ouch gattaca82 Sep 2012 #24
This was fucking idiotic. NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #26
IMO, I don't see it as affect much either, thankfully. But WTF was he thinking? Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #33
Calm down, Obama's instincts are no doubt correct here flamingdem Sep 2012 #28
DO NOT PIN THIS ON THE PRESIDENT. He had nothing to do with this. nt Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #30
But he did -- he was the one who wanted it put back in. He didn't know it had been gateley Sep 2012 #46
Well, I haven't seen anything about him pushing for it but, TBH, it's beside the point: Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #48
I've seen a couple of "according to campaign sources" type of things and saw Madeline gateley Sep 2012 #72
a convention is not just a show veganlush Sep 2012 #31
You don't call a vote 3 times in a row, have it fail each time and then say it passed. Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #34
No big deal when it's ensured that the right folks get their way... n/t Earth_First Sep 2012 #35
Now Obama can say he fought for it and got it Gman Sep 2012 #42
Bingo! nt fugop Sep 2012 #54
The Lone Resident of Kolob Is Smiling Today.... jerseyjack Sep 2012 #47
Good Ol' Tony Villar... cherokeeprogressive Sep 2012 #50
i can't stand villaraigosa shanti Sep 2012 #56
I'm thinking he just pushed those hopes back a few years if not more. n/t cherokeeprogressive Sep 2012 #58
That was pretty shocking. pa28 Sep 2012 #68
much ado about absolutely nothing of significance scheming daemons Sep 2012 #51
Chairman calls a vote, fails. Calls same vote 2x, still fails. Says it passes. Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #53
your outrage over this is way excessive scheming daemons Sep 2012 #71
That's a much more succinct argument than the one I tried to make! randome Sep 2012 #76
If it means nothing, then why cook the result? n/t gkhouston Sep 2012 #83
It's kind of a big deal to many Arab Americans. girl gone mad Sep 2012 #85
If it's not that important, why lie about the results on national TV? Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #90
There are a LOT of people "outraged" Le Taz Hot Sep 2012 #106
He probably was in shock that anyone would be oblivious enough to hand a big shiny ecstatic Sep 2012 #91
Voice votes are bullshit... n/t nebenaube Sep 2012 #52
Either the stooge needs a hearing aid or a refresher course in democracy. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2012 #62
That didn't sound like a 2/3 majority aikoaiko Sep 2012 #64
God had His thumb on the scales.. Fumesucker Sep 2012 #67
Something needs to trump this as the defining moment FAST. nolabear Sep 2012 #69
Whoever took God out should be fired for being politically stupid. I don't care about that crap but Raine Sep 2012 #70
No kidding. I'm as atheistic as one can get Nevernose Sep 2012 #77
+1! gateley Sep 2012 #82
We want him to be a smart politician but to also satisfy everyone. randome Sep 2012 #84
Only RNC values allowed for DNC? lunasun Sep 2012 #78
Until this time, they were DNC values, too. I'm in agreement with the sentiment, gateley Sep 2012 #81
Also sorta undemocratic the way in which it was handled at DNC lunasun Sep 2012 #94
Democracy works by leaders making decisions for the rest of us. randome Sep 2012 #96
Not when they put it to a vote. We elected those Democratic delegates to go there to... Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #98
Yes, and the leaders making decisions are the delegates who vote, NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #101
No. Congress are our elected representaties, too. randome Sep 2012 #110
TOTALLY agree! How they thought they could fuck with such a political gateley Sep 2012 #79
I experienced that as a delegate upi402 Sep 2012 #73
Sorry for being ignorant but...who is General Roberts? Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #88
I suspect upi is referring to Robert's Rules of Order. Then again I could be wrong. WillowTree Sep 2012 #93
Damn!! WTF is going on??? Trailrider1951 Sep 2012 #80
He took the vote three times and then lied about the result after Skip Intro Sep 2012 #95
Mystery Lady is still one heck of a mystery. I edited OP with a picture of her in... Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #97
How embarrassing LittleBlue Sep 2012 #102
You said it. Totally embarrassing and completely unnecessary. LAGC Sep 2012 #103
That was bullshit! Le Taz Hot Sep 2012 #104
She almost looks like Dolores Umbridge from the HARRY POTTER films. Ken Burch Sep 2012 #105
OK, fine - but could we let this shit drop down the board? jsmirman Sep 2012 #107
Who's stupid idea was it to take that out of the platform anyway? davidn3600 Sep 2012 #108
There would likely have been no problem Ken Burch Sep 2012 #109
that was disgusting. can someone tell me why god & jerusalem are needed in the platform HiPointDem Sep 2012 #112
that is NOT what democracy looks like! Douglas Carpenter Sep 2012 #114
I'm going to call bullshit on this one Freddie Stubbs Sep 2012 #116
This thing is disasterous cherish44 Sep 2012 #117
You don't fix it by overriding the delegates TheKentuckian Sep 2012 #119
Professional parliamentarian michaelslomo Sep 2012 #120
Parliamentarian Helen McFadden michaelslomo Sep 2012 #121
THANK YOU! Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #122
You can bet that parts of this deaniac21 Sep 2012 #125
He should've been booed. Alduin Sep 2012 #126
That so-called "vote" was a disgusting spectacle. Thoroughly embarrassing for the Dems. qb Sep 2012 #127
Antonio is the Mayor of Los Angeles goclark Sep 2012 #128
If Those Two Items Were Removed From The Platform That's All The MSM Would Still Be Talking About DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #129
That whole thing was a debacle. Skip Intro Sep 2012 #131
This is the kind of thing I really dislike about politics... yawnmaster Sep 2012 #132
Help me out on this Jerusalem thing mrgorth Sep 2012 #133
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