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Greenwald: Democratic Party priorities [View all] whatchamacallit Jan 2012 OP
Lol, he knows how to take advantage of all of this. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #1
You are praising a pundit for trolling the left? joshcryer Jan 2012 #4
Actually he's 'trolling' to use your word, the phony left and they continue to take the bait. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #9
So ProSense Jan 2012 #11
Are you alleging that I am the "phony left"? I delt with his last piece, was mocked, ridiculed... joshcryer Jan 2012 #15
Why don't you just read what I post, instead of using this old tactic 'are you saying this or that' sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #23
I read that to say "anyone who takes the bait" is the phony left. That is, you can't disagree... joshcryer Jan 2012 #28
I think what might be confusing to those he calls the "phoney left" is that they do not align rhett o rick Jan 2012 #29
Interesting, I don't know of any pro-torture people here. joshcryer Jan 2012 #33
While vast majority of DUers have consistently opposed torture... Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #64
Heh, I had that poll ready to post as a response. joshcryer Jan 2012 #66
Wow, I never saw that. 21 Duers who would consider or outright support torture. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #123
I might be in favor BootinUp Jan 2012 #76
Ha. joshcryer Jan 2012 #79
Thanks for the response, but you changed my words. Those that I describe may not claim to rhett o rick Jan 2012 #138
You said they were "OK" with it. You are now saying... joshcryer Jan 2012 #177
Again you distort what I say. But I am glad to help you. rhett o rick Jan 2012 #180
It's not all black and white. And I quoted your own words. joshcryer Jan 2012 #182
Well said. nt woo me with science Jan 2012 #185
This MichaelMcGuire Jan 2012 #120
Nailed it. nt Romulox Jan 2012 #131
I think "real liberals" are catching onto GG. He & Paul have quite a bit in common. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #2
No shit! It's ProSense Jan 2012 #6
It's fun watching GG twist in the wind, while namecalling at the same time, "Obama Cultists". Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #20
I think he is exposing the hypocrisy of some who have claimed to be liberals. And he is doing it sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #7
That's ProSense Jan 2012 #8
Anything to say that actually addresses the issues he has raised? You are going off topic sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #10
Here: ProSense Jan 2012 #12
I am not going to another thread, if you can't respond in this thread, then so be it. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #24
Would ProSense Jan 2012 #30
And you asked has Greenwald ever stated that Paul has issues as he did regarding the sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #88
yes, his simply brilliant. brilliant... shines like the sun, he does... dionysus Jan 2012 #147
Well, that's a bit of an exaggeration, and truthfully I suppose it doesn't take a lot sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #153
No True Scotsman _ed_ Jan 2012 #199
So ProSense Jan 2012 #3
Should mental illness be used to trash political opponents with by Progressives? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #13
Wait ProSense Jan 2012 #14
That wasn't even a good try! Did you not agree with the claim that Paul is 'crazy'? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #27
Wait ProSense Jan 2012 #40
So you have no problem using mental illness as a political tool. And that is progressive? How? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #45
I ProSense Jan 2012 #50
Did you think I wanted to 'protect Paul from criticism'?? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #90
Your mentally ill relative- would you want that person in charge of this country's nuclear arsenal? Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #99
Has there been a diagnosis of mental illness that I have not heard of? Was Alan Grayson informed sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #100
Oh, for fuck's sake. Politicians are called "crazy" all the time, even ones far saner than Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #104
I assume then that you did not read the OP. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #107
You're objecting to the calling of ANY politician "crazy", unless I'm mistaken. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #111
Thank you. Finally, someone who actually addressed Greenwald's actual point. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #112
exactly and cheers to you for pointing it out librechik Jan 2012 #150
'Not of the left' sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #162
Right On. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #158
Greenwald should stop digging. Swede Jan 2012 #18
Actually he's milking the attention he's getting from all over the place now sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #34
Read the comments, Ron Paul supporters outnumber progressives overwhelmingly. joshcryer Jan 2012 #53
I'm not following you. Ron Paul supporters do not outnumber progressives. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #57
You said GG's arguments "attracted so many supporters from across the political spectrum"... joshcryer Jan 2012 #62
No, I said Greenwald's argument was that Paul had attracted supporters from across the sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #86
Oh, I'm not disputing that at all. joshcryer Jan 2012 #92
Okay! n/t sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #94
Another GG column where he's just talking about Ron Paul approvingly, but not 'supporting' him? msanthrope Jan 2012 #5
He also quotes a ProSense Jan 2012 #16
At first I thought he was backing down from the rhetoric, but I was surprised to see the Ron Paul... joshcryer Jan 2012 #17
GG is one of the few that make any sense. russspeakeasy Jan 2012 #19
It hurts when your heroes turn out to be racist a-holes, huh? And talk about "shortfalls". Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #21
Never had it happen. Sounds like you have had some experience though, sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #36
I agree. The reason you don't get an answer to that question, is because he has always made sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #42
Heh. Unfortunately still won't be engaged on the merits. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #22
I engaged on the merits last time, this is a rehash. joshcryer Jan 2012 #31
Here, Jack, here's what I wrote to him on his comments (doubt he'll respond): joshcryer Jan 2012 #41
That is a thoughtful post. However, his response would be that you are assuming he sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #168
I did not make that assumption anywhere in my comment, if you read it you would know. joshcryer Jan 2012 #175
Then I misunderstood. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #178
Go to around page 30 if you want to see their responses to me, they're insane. joshcryer Jan 2012 #179
Liberatarians are the must frustrating people to argue with. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #188
The reaction here now reminds me of this strategy.... JackRiddler Jan 2012 #25
Except that today people are a lot more sophisticated about these smear campaigns so they sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #47
Disagreement = smear campaign Dewey Finn Jan 2012 #59
Oh, right! The spook team targeting Greenwald... JackRiddler Jan 2012 #74
Thanks, I will be writing about it myself as I think it is important to remember that the US sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #78
Thanks for sharing MichaelMcGuire Jan 2012 #122
Jack, those links are not working for some reason. Would love to read it though. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #124
Here are some links about HB Gary vs. Wikileaks/Anonymous/Greenwald JackRiddler Jan 2012 #128
Thank you, watching Colbert. Lol, he's so good. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #154
What a confused self-defense frazzled Jan 2012 #26
Exactly, ProSense Jan 2012 #32
How is he selling him that way?? Did you read his columns at all? He has been crystal clear sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #49
Pat Buchanan isn't actually a candidate or is he running. joshcryer Jan 2012 #37
Did I say he was a candidate? frazzled Jan 2012 #39
Hey, I wasn't disagreeing, frazz, I was just saying that's GG's response to that. joshcryer Jan 2012 #43
I see, but he was a presidential candidate -- frazzled Jan 2012 #133
Nobody is endorsing Paul's "vision" but you better believe that A VISION that is anti-war, TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #46
It'd be good if Ron Paul was actually for those things, but he's not. joshcryer Jan 2012 #55
It makes little difference, the point is to get such concepts into the mass awareness. TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #102
Don't attribute Ron Paul's ideas to all progressives. joshcryer Jan 2012 #103
What a dangerous idea frazzled Jan 2012 #135
The Party has the option of pushing good policy. TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #184
Perfectly said, thank you! n/t sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #190
Wow MFrohike Jan 2012 #58
Why do you think Dennis Kucinich worked with Paul to try to stop the war in Iraq during sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #98
Good post. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #35
Ron Paul Endorsed by David Duke, Linked to the John Birch Society ProSense Jan 2012 #38
David Duke endorsed Kerry once also. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #44
And ProSense Jan 2012 #48
I would not presume to diagnose the state of anyone's mental health, I am not a doctor. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #52
Do ProSense Jan 2012 #54
Links please. And you still have not addressed the topic of this thread. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #56
By ProSense Jan 2012 #60
That links to someone named Kayser. You stated that Paul had advocated the killing of Gays. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #68
Really? ProSense Jan 2012 #81
Do you have any comment on the OP? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #84
Didn't ProSense Jan 2012 #87
I checked out both of your links and I could find nothing about blacks infecting whites with HIV. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #70
Another ProSense Jan 2012 #83
Ah, so you wanted me to go on a treasure hunt! Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #101
fullofit Whisp Jan 2012 #119
You're asking for links? Really? Dewey Finn Jan 2012 #61
I saw a great comment on a Daily Kos diary: ProSense Jan 2012 #63
Now why is that not a surprise? You need more credible sources I'm afraid. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #73
??? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #65
Yes, because you have no idea whatsoever about the scorn repeated here ad infinitum Dewey Finn Jan 2012 #69
I don't do 'scorn'. But then, you are new here, so maybe you didn't know that. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #75
Oh, I see. Dewey Finn Jan 2012 #80
You're hi-jacking this thread and becoming personal. Do you have any comment on the OP? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #82
Actually, post #75 (by you) is where it got "personal" & threadjacking was attempted Dewey Finn Jan 2012 #89
No, actually it got personal at post #61 when you, someone I do not know, sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #93
Thank Christ for that! Dewey Finn Jan 2012 #95
Ron Paul isn't just linked to the John Birch Society... ellisonz Jan 2012 #118
That's some impressive honesty there, ProSense. Laelth Jan 2012 #129
So, Glenn's not saying he's for Paul. MilesColtrane Jan 2012 #51
Actually, he didn't say that he said this: Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #67
Romney has yet to make a statement on the reduction in military that I see. joshcryer Jan 2012 #71
Obama intends to reduce military personnel but Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #72
He said they will reduce it $490 billion over 10 years. $261 billion in 7 years. joshcryer Jan 2012 #77
Remarks by the President on the Defense Strategic Review Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #91
Fair enough. joshcryer Jan 2012 #96
Again, military spending reductions are nowhere on that list... Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #97
I can't disagree with you as it's coming out of personnel. joshcryer Jan 2012 #106
A wave back at ya! Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #115
No. That is NOT a "massive" reduction. bvar22 Jan 2012 #148
Why don't you read what he is saying, and then comment on that, rather than on what you think sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #85
I thought Libertarians were all just poopy-head Republicans who smoke teh pot. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #105
$$$ joshcryer Jan 2012 #108
To be fair, I think a lot of people in our party are sick of the enabling of drug warriors & the MIC Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #110
This message was self-deleted by its author joshcryer Jan 2012 #113
Yeah, but issues-wise it's low priority. joshcryer Jan 2012 #116
I would LOVE to see Liz Warren run in 2016. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #146
Agreed kurt_cagle Jan 2012 #191
Good points, I appreciate your thoughts and focus on the actual issues. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #193
Maybe we could all join you in your confusion if you could point out 'all the Paul love' you sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #109
There isn't "all this Paul love" but pretending so gives people a twofer... Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #114
Lol, doesn't seem to be working though, most people get what Greenwald is saying. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #117
I don't care. It's stupid to fight over talking heads. AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #121
I don't either. And babylonsister Jan 2012 #125
k&r for Greenwald. Laelth Jan 2012 #126
+1 hifiguy Jan 2012 #137
Glenn is complaining about "distortions"????? JoePhilly Jan 2012 #127
I think it's WONDERFUL how threatening the "centrists" find GG. He got to be onto something. Romulox Jan 2012 #130
Seems pretty defensive to me. MineralMan Jan 2012 #132
I wouln't say you 'called him out', but you did provide him with a perfect example of what he sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #169
You called him out about his support for Paul ? You are confused. russspeakeasy Jan 2012 #174
Greenwald. LOL...nt SidDithers Jan 2012 #134
This seems to be your standard response to many threads. hifiguy Jan 2012 #136
Nobody cares what Greenwald has to say anymore. He lacks a D after his name. MjolnirTime Jan 2012 #139
Shoot the messenger hifiguy Jan 2012 #140
Greenwald is no ally. He is blindly working towards the same goal as the GOP. MjolnirTime Jan 2012 #141
Greenwald supports a less-Bushist, less neocon foreign policy -- too bad party leadership doesn't nashville_brook Jan 2012 #142
I guess that's why he's so outspoken against hifiguy Jan 2012 #145
Oh lawrd. MNBrewer Jan 2012 #173
dumb... yes, actually you do fascisthunter Jan 2012 #144
Well you'd never know it from the millions of words that have typed to show 'how no one cares sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #170
HAHAHA.... and are they ever Exposed fascisthunter Jan 2012 #143
I'll Take the Bait if it offers another opportunity to highlight THESE important issues: bvar22 Jan 2012 #149
All Progressive ideals. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #152
Excellent. woo me with science Jan 2012 #186
This is an outstanding column by Glenn Greenwald, well worth the read. Uncle Joe Jan 2012 #151
Ain't no thing whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #157
I'm back, what did I miss? whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #155
The only choice in the upcoming election will be between the Republican Nominee and FrenchieCat Jan 2012 #156
That's true whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #159
Lamenting is fine, FrenchieCat Jan 2012 #167
correct, and Greenwald is pointing out that the election doesnt address everything Enrique Jan 2012 #166
That's entirely up to the moderator. joshcryer Jan 2012 #176
Greenwald is full of shit. Spider Jerusalem Jan 2012 #160
Link to Greenwald's quote please. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #161
the meat of it is here: Spider Jerusalem Jan 2012 #163
So, he didn't actually say what you quoted him as saying. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #164
That wasn't an exact quote, but yes, he did say it. Spider Jerusalem Jan 2012 #165
Well, is he right or wrong? Who else on the national stage is condemning the secret drone wars sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #171
That's extremely faulty logic, honestly Spider Jerusalem Jan 2012 #181
I don't think Greenwald disagrees with you, nor do any of those who have a greed with him. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #187
Ironically, I am a progressive, not a liberal kurt_cagle Jan 2012 #192
He has said that he agrees with you, that the totality of Paul's positions make him a terrible MNBrewer Jan 2012 #172
Where did he say Paul would be a terrible choice? nt geek tragedy Jan 2012 #195
I guess he didn't say "terrible choice", but he didn't endorse Ron Paul for Pres. MNBrewer Jan 2012 #196
K & R! Wind Dancer Jan 2012 #183
K&R The Midway Rebel Jan 2012 #189
Greenwald sees Paul as vastly superior to Obama. geek tragedy Jan 2012 #194
The issue isn't Greenwald, or even Paul or Obama. The issue is sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #198
just a crooked lawyer with a blog arely staircase Jan 2012 #197
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