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sgsilvey

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40. The 'All American' bombardier is my uncle...
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 02:09 AM
Sep 2012

Hello, joining this forum this evening to set the record straight on a couple of details... this is my uncle's plane, Ralph Burbridge was the bombardier... and he's still alive at the age of 92.

This particular version of the story is found in several places on the internet and has some problems that some of you have already identified. I thank you for setting the record straight.

The 97th BG was based near Tunis. After they dropped their bombs the mid-air collision occurred. The group formed up around the All American and that's how we have this great picture of her after the pilot Ken Bragg got her under control after the collision. After it was determined that Ken could control the plane with just engine speed and wing surface controls the formation returned to base in North Africa... not England. The All American came home much later to a grateful ground crew.

Several official pictures of her are available at the Fold3 website and you can see that the tail section never did 'fall off' or crumple after the crew got off.

I'm attempting to contact relatives of the crew to gather their versions of this great story and will do what I can to correct the errors where I find them. i currently have the pilot, navigator and bombardier's stories and I'm working on getting the radio operator, tail gunner and ball turret gunner's stories now.

My uncle was the past president of the 97th BG reunion association many years ago and I'm trying to find out where those records went to. If anyone has any ideas on this please let me know.

As a side bar to this story... the 414th flies today! The 414th was reactivated November 2011 and they contacted me earlier this year. Recently Ralph was presented a US flag flown in his honor in Turkey along with a citation thanking him for his service by the 414th. They still use the same insignia (bearcat on the damaged tail section praying) inspired by the All American almost 60 years ago. Made the old man's day!

Will work to provide more details and links as this story evolves.

It looks like only the tail wheel collapsed -- tail still attached. eppur_se_muova Aug 2012 #1
The 20 mm nose cannon on a ME109 was like a buz saw. The prop even more so. leveymg Aug 2012 #2
The crew was amazing alright Plucketeer Aug 2012 #18
There are many stories like this... ewagner Aug 2012 #3
Rec! I had the HONOR of flying in a B-17 a few weeks ago.... Cooley Hurd Aug 2012 #4
Great video of a wonderful old bird. Thnx for that. leveymg Aug 2012 #5
Wow! Where did this take place? DinahMoeHum Aug 2012 #8
There are 10 B-17's left flying Major Nikon Aug 2012 #26
Looks like EAA in Oshkosh. Ellipsis Aug 2012 #28
Very Nice, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2012 #13
Very cool! AllenVanAllen Aug 2012 #16
lovely. Liberal_in_LA Aug 2012 #37
I like that the interior of the plane is not over restored Stinky The Clown Mar 2013 #45
That's just an awesome story Mutt22 Aug 2012 #6
It was built by Boeing under government contract. hobbit709 Aug 2012 #7
I hate the silly embellishments. AtheistCrusader Aug 2012 #9
My dad flew 50 missions in WWII panader0 Aug 2012 #10
I wonder if your Dad knew my Dad... virgdem Aug 2012 #15
A friend of mine was a B-17 pilot in WWII Major Nikon Aug 2012 #27
ww2 turned us from an agrarian backwater datasuspect Aug 2012 #11
Great thread. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #12
"If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going" A HERETIC I AM Aug 2012 #14
The pictures are quite famous, but I don't trust the story in the OP caraher Aug 2012 #17
You are Right, Sir, that the Text Is Incorrect In Many Particulars The Magistrate Aug 2012 #19
Definitely not England, unless there was a desert landing strip near the Dover Coast in 1943 leveymg Aug 2012 #20
It seems, among other inaccuracies, the plane was damaged after the bombs were dropped. LiberalAndProud Aug 2012 #21
Yeah. Some stories really don't need exaggeration. Posteritatis Aug 2012 #31
Well, when I was tracking down the source of this narrative... caraher Aug 2012 #34
The 'All American' bombardier is my uncle... sgsilvey Sep 2012 #40
Welcome to DU and thank you for sharing. DURHAM D Sep 2012 #41
You're seeing first hand why crews preferred the B-17 freethought Aug 2012 #22
Remarkable that plane could fly with one horizontal stabilizer... Octafish Aug 2012 #23
Have you a link to this? I'd like to send it on to my father. Thnks. uppityperson Aug 2012 #24
I received this via email.... saved the pics to photobucket... you should be able to 2on2u Aug 2012 #32
Built by women. WilliamPitt Aug 2012 #25
Thanks for mentioning!! DearHeart Aug 2012 #33
Wow! Quite a story. My dad was co-pilot of a B-17 kskiska Aug 2012 #29
Um...Bad Example .... But great aircraft econoclast Aug 2012 #30
Wow! Lugnut Aug 2012 #35
That you lugnut? Did you have that moniker in high school? Curious. 2on2u Aug 2012 #36
No. Not in high school. Lugnut Aug 2012 #38
Video tour of the inside of a B-29 ProudSon Aug 2012 #39
Treasure that. Stinky The Clown Mar 2013 #44
german pilot malc55 Mar 2013 #42
sgsilvey only posted once here cyberswede Mar 2013 #43
Hello ~ malc55. Good luck finding what you are looking for at DU. In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #46
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